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  #21  
Old September 1st 09, 01:30 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of
autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations
outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as
well as a long-term goal of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or
Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in
orbit. They have determined that there are ample
quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and
Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily
available in very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining,
and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Must be a parrot.

You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.

You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton.


Since I never said anything about "procedure", what's your point other
than you can't read?


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  #22  
Old September 1st 09, 01:35 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Rod Speed wrote
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Rod Speed wrote
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Rod Speed wrote
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Rod Speed wrote
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Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
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Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of
autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of
locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science
fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various
national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or
Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in
orbit. They have determined that there are ample
quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon
and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is
readily available in very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining,
and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and
plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the
colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be
special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of
something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic
raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made
of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic
excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Must be a parrot.


You are a pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.

You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton.


Since I never said anything about "procedure",


You cant list even a SINGLE medical supply that cant be done without cotton.

what's your point


Obviously that there are alternatives to cotton, cretin.


  #23  
Old September 1st 09, 02:00 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Default Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
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Rod Speed wrote
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Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of
autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of
locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science
fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various
national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or
Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in
orbit. They have determined that there are ample
quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon
and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is
readily available in very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining,
and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and
plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the
colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be
special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of
something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic
raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made
of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic
excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Must be a parrot.


You are a pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


Yep, a mindless parrot.

You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton.


Since I never said anything about "procedure",


You cant list even a SINGLE medical supply that cant be done without cotton.

what's your point


Medical supplies aren't "done", they are "made".

Obviously that there are alternatives to cotton, cretin.


Such as that don't require organic material to make and has the same
properties as cotton?


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  #24  
Old September 1st 09, 03:21 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Default Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement,
space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the
concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human
habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major
theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal
of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon
or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be
in orbit. They have determined that there are ample
quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon
and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is
readily available in very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would
need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining,
refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and
plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the
colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of
something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic
raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made
of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic
excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Must be a parrot.


You are a pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


Yep, a mindless parrot.


Yep, you are a pathetic excuse for a mindless bull**** artist.

You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton.


Since I never said anything about "procedure",


You cant list even a SINGLE medical supply that cant be done without cotton.


what's your point


Medical supplies aren't "done", they are "made".


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?

Obviously that there are alternatives to cotton, cretin.


Such as that don't require organic material to make and has the same properties as cotton?


Dont have to have the same propertys as cotton, ****wit.


  #25  
Old September 1st 09, 04:15 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Default Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement,
space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the
concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human
habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major
theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal
of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon
or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be
in orbit. They have determined that there are ample
quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon
and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is
readily available in very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would
need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining,
refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and
plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the
colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of
something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic
raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made
of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic
excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Must be a parrot.


You are a pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


Yep, a mindless parrot.


Yep, you are a pathetic excuse for a mindless bull**** artist.

You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton.


Since I never said anything about "procedure",


You cant list even a SINGLE medical supply that cant be done without cotton.


what's your point


Medical supplies aren't "done", they are "made".


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


I'm quite sure you are capable of nothing more than your usual, content free,
response when backed into a corner over your arm waving nonsense.

Obviously that there are alternatives to cotton, cretin.


Such as that don't require organic material to make and has the same properties as cotton?


Dont have to have the same propertys as cotton, ****wit.


Even an arm waving parrot like you should be able to understand that,
yes it does.

Let's start with some simple, obvious properties (take note of the spelling
of that word):

fairly strong

absorbent

easy to sterilize

soft, i.e. not aggravating to wounds and will conform to odd body parts

doesn't produce static electricity

can be made flame proof

OK, name the obvious alternatives to cotton which don't require organic
material to make.



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Jim Pennino

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  #26  
Old September 1st 09, 04:42 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Default Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

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Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement,
space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the
concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human
habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major
theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term
goal of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the
Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies
will be in orbit. They have determined that there
are ample quantities of all the necessary materials
on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that
solar energy is readily available in very large
quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would
need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining,
refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on
organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are
made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Must be a parrot.


You are a pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


Yep, a mindless parrot.


Yep, you are a pathetic excuse for a mindless bull**** artist.


You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton.


Since I never said anything about "procedure",


You cant list even a SINGLE medical supply that cant be done without cotton.


what's your point


Medical supplies aren't "done", they are "made".


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs

Obviously that there are alternatives to cotton, cretin.


Such as that don't require organic material to make and has the same properties as cotton?


Dont have to have the same propertys as cotton, ****wit.


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs

yes it does.


Wrong, as always.

Let's start with some simple, obvious properties
(take note of the spelling of that word):


Go and **** yourself, again.

fairly strong


absorbent


easy to sterilize


soft, i.e. not aggravating to wounds and will conform to odd body parts


doesn't produce static electricity


can be made flame proof


OK, name the obvious alternatives to cotton


A particular replacement doesnt have to have all of those when cotton isnt available, ****wit.

which don't require organic material to make.


Says he slithering off to something that wasnt even being discussed by anyone but him.


  #27  
Old September 1st 09, 05:00 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Default Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement,
space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the
concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human
habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major
theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term
goal of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the
Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies
will be in orbit. They have determined that there
are ample quantities of all the necessary materials
on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that
solar energy is readily available in very large
quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would
need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining,
refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on
organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are
made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Must be a parrot.


You are a pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


Yep, a mindless parrot.


Yep, you are a pathetic excuse for a mindless bull**** artist.


You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton.


Since I never said anything about "procedure",


You cant list even a SINGLE medical supply that cant be done without cotton.


what's your point


Medical supplies aren't "done", they are "made".


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs

Obviously that there are alternatives to cotton, cretin.


Such as that don't require organic material to make and has the same properties as cotton?


Dont have to have the same propertys as cotton, ****wit.


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs

yes it does.


Wrong, as always.

Let's start with some simple, obvious properties
(take note of the spelling of that word):


Go and **** yourself, again.

fairly strong


absorbent


easy to sterilize


soft, i.e. not aggravating to wounds and will conform to odd body parts


doesn't produce static electricity


can be made flame proof


OK, name the obvious alternatives to cotton


A particular replacement doesnt have to have all of those when cotton isnt available, ****wit.


Better hope none of those "independant" space dwellers ever has so much
as a bad tooth.

which don't require organic material to make.


Says he slithering off to something that wasnt even being discussed by anyone but him.


As expected, Speed forgets the entire point was becoming self-sufficient
and independant of Earth.

When faced with a trivial (on Earth) product that is rather important
for human health and welfare, Speed is incapable of arm waving his way
into a suitable replacement that can be made in space absent cotton
fields.



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  #28  
Old September 1st 09, 05:09 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Default Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

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Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement,
space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the
concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human
habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a
major theme in science fiction, as well as a
long-term goal of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the
Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies
will be in orbit. They have determined that there
are ample quantities of all the necessary
materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids,
and that solar energy is readily available in
very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would
need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining,
refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment
and plants and animals on earth it wants to have in
the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on
organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are
made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Must be a parrot.


You are a pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


Yep, a mindless parrot.


Yep, you are a pathetic excuse for a mindless bull**** artist.


You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton.


Since I never said anything about "procedure",


You cant list even a SINGLE medical supply that cant be done without cotton.


what's your point


Medical supplies aren't "done", they are "made".


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs


Obviously that there are alternatives to cotton, cretin.


Such as that don't require organic material to make and has the same properties as cotton?


Dont have to have the same propertys as cotton, ****wit.


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs


yes it does.


Wrong, as always.


Let's start with some simple, obvious properties
(take note of the spelling of that word):


Go and **** yourself, again.


fairly strong


absorbent


easy to sterilize


soft, i.e. not aggravating to wounds and will conform to odd body parts


doesn't produce static electricity


can be made flame proof


OK, name the obvious alternatives to cotton


A particular replacement doesnt have to have all of those when cotton isnt available, ****wit.


Better hope none of those "independant" space dwellers ever has so much as a bad tooth.


Plenty of obvious alternatives to cotton for that.

which don't require organic material to make.


Says he slithering off to something that wasnt even being discussed by anyone but him.


As expected, Speed forgets the entire point was becoming self-sufficient and independant of Earth.


More of your lies.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp
that those would have to have some source of food, and
that will be fine as a source of organic material too.

When faced with a trivial (on Earth) product that
is rather important for human health and welfare,


But readily replacable with a host of alternatives when its no longer available.

reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs


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Space colonization (also called space settlement,
space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the
concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human
habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a
major theme in science fiction, as well as a
long-term goal of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the
Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies
will be in orbit. They have determined that there
are ample quantities of all the necessary
materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids,
and that solar energy is readily available in
very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would
need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining,
refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment
and plants and animals on earth it wants to have in
the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on
organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are
made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Must be a parrot.


You are a pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


Yep, a mindless parrot.


Yep, you are a pathetic excuse for a mindless bull**** artist.


You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton.


Since I never said anything about "procedure",


You cant list even a SINGLE medical supply that cant be done without cotton.


what's your point


Medical supplies aren't "done", they are "made".


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs


Obviously that there are alternatives to cotton, cretin.


Such as that don't require organic material to make and has the same properties as cotton?


Dont have to have the same propertys as cotton, ****wit.


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs


yes it does.


Wrong, as always.


Let's start with some simple, obvious properties
(take note of the spelling of that word):


Go and **** yourself, again.


fairly strong


absorbent


easy to sterilize


soft, i.e. not aggravating to wounds and will conform to odd body parts


doesn't produce static electricity


can be made flame proof


OK, name the obvious alternatives to cotton


A particular replacement doesnt have to have all of those when cotton isnt available, ****wit.


Better hope none of those "independant" space dwellers ever has so much as a bad tooth.


Plenty of obvious alternatives to cotton for that.


So it should be trivial for you to name one, yet you can't do anything
but arm wave.

which don't require organic material to make.


Says he slithering off to something that wasnt even being discussed by anyone but him.


As expected, Speed forgets the entire point was becoming self-sufficient and independant of Earth.


More of your lies.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp
that those would have to have some source of food, and
that will be fine as a source of organic material too.

When faced with a trivial (on Earth) product that
is rather important for human health and welfare,


But readily replacable with a host of alternatives when its no longer available.


Yet you are incapable of naming even one of those hosts of alternatives.

Content free arm waving yet again.


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Old September 1st 09, 05:34 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Default Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

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In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
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Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
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Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space
settlement, space humanization, space
habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous
(self-sufficient) human habitation of locations
outside Earth. It is a major theme in science
fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various
national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the
Moon or Mars, others argue that the first
colonies will be in orbit. They have determined
that there are ample quantities of all the
necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth
Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily
available in very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony
would
need to duplicate nearly the entire
agricultural, mining,
refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of
the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and
what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the
environment
and plants and animals on earth it wants to have
in
the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to
be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out
of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need
arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on
organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon
in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just --
on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are
made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon
in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic
material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Must be a parrot.


You are a pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.


Yep, a mindless parrot.


Yep, you are a pathetic excuse for a mindless bull**** artist.


You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse
for a bull**** artist.


You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be
done without cotton.


Since I never said anything about "procedure",


You cant list even a SINGLE medical supply that cant be done
without cotton.


what's your point


Medical supplies aren't "done", they are "made".


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic
excuses for a bull**** artist ?


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead
flushed where it belongs


Obviously that there are alternatives to cotton, cretin.


Such as that don't require organic material to make and has the
same properties as cotton?


Dont have to have the same propertys as cotton, ****wit.


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead
flushed where it belongs


yes it does.


Wrong, as always.


Let's start with some simple, obvious properties
(take note of the spelling of that word):


Go and **** yourself, again.


fairly strong


absorbent


easy to sterilize


soft, i.e. not aggravating to wounds and will conform to odd body
parts


doesn't produce static electricity


can be made flame proof


OK, name the obvious alternatives to cotton


A particular replacement doesnt have to have all of those when
cotton isnt available, ****wit.


Better hope none of those "independant" space dwellers ever has so
much as a bad tooth.


Plenty of obvious alternatives to cotton for that.


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs

which don't require organic material to make.


Says he slithering off to something that wasnt even being
discussed by anyone but him.


As expected, Speed forgets the entire point was becoming
self-sufficient and independant of Earth.


More of your lies.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp
that those would have to have some source of food, and
that will be fine as a source of organic material too.

When faced with a trivial (on Earth) product that
is rather important for human health and welfare,


But readily replacable with a host of alternatives when its no longer available.


reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs

Whoops, nothing left. Wota surprise.


 




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