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Old August 31st 09, 03:45 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
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In sci.physics Ken from Chicago wrote:

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Immortalist wrote

Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous
(self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It
is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal
of various national space programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars,
others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have
determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary
materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar
energy is readily available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw

To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and
manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.

Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.

Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.

Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special
challenges.

No need to have cotton underwear.

They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical
supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less
than ideal and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.

The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw
materials to make them.



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Old August 31st 09, 07:40 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
wrote:
In sci.physics Ken from Chicago
wrote:

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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wrote
Immortalist wrote

Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of
autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations
outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well
as a long-term goal of various national space programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars,
others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have
determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary
materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar
energy is readily available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw

To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and
manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.

Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.

Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.

Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special
challenges.

No need to have cotton underwear.

They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical
supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.

and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.

The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


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Old August 31st 09, 08:49 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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On Aug 30, 12:15*pm, Immortalist wrote:
Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization,
space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient)
human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in
science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space
programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others
argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined
that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the
Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily
available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


LEO stuff isn't viable, because it's simply too spendy and otherwise
unsustainable, as well as undefendable against whatever is headed our
way.

If your sun was about to shift from its relatively supermassive red
giant phase, down to that of a little white dwarf of less than an
eighth its original (pre red supergiant) stellar mass, and if an icy
planetoid or proto-moon were going to suddenly become tidal radii
discarded and headed in the right/general direction, away from its
failing home solar system and migrating towards that of another nearby
passive solar system, then by all means such an icy planetoid could
become safely utilized as your multi-generation interstellar space
craft, as an entirely capable sphere of hosting sustainable life (no
matters how weird, dumb or unnecessary some of that life might
represent).

However, many are correct in thinking that most of us can't seem to
manage or otherwise pay for living here on Earth, especially within
any similar controlled ecosystem as would be required in space or upon
some other planet or moon that isn't already Eden approved.

~ BG
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Old August 31st 09, 10:45 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
wrote:
In sci.physics Ken from Chicago
wrote:

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
wrote
Immortalist wrote

Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of
autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations
outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well
as a long-term goal of various national space programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars,
others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have
determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary
materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar
energy is readily available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw

To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and
manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.

Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.

Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.

Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special
challenges.

No need to have cotton underwear.

They going commando?

I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical
supplies that are made from cotton.

But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.

and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.

The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.

There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton
and it is trivial to verify.

And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.



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Old August 31st 09, 11:04 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of
autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations
outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well
as a long-term goal of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars,
others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They
have determined that there are ample quantities of all the
necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and
that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and
manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.

There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.

And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


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Old August 31st 09, 11:45 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Default Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of
autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations
outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well
as a long-term goal of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars,
others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They
have determined that there are ample quantities of all the
necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and
that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and
manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.

There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.

And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


--
Jim Pennino

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Old August 31st 09, 11:49 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Default Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

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Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of
autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations
outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as
well as a long-term goal of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or
Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in
orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities
of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth
Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in
very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining,
and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


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On 31 Aug, 03:45, wrote:
In sci.physics Ken from Chicago wrote:







"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous
(self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is
a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of
various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars,
others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have
determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary
materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar
energy is readily available in very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate
nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing
infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


-- Ken from Chicago


I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical
supplies that are made from cotton.

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Old September 1st 09, 12:15 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of
autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations
outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as
well as a long-term goal of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or
Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in
orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities
of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth
Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in
very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining,
and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when backed into a corner
over his arm waving nonsense.


--
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Old September 1st 09, 12:25 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
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Default Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

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Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Ken from Chicago wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Immortalist wrote


Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of
autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations
outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as
well as a long-term goal of various national space programs.


While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or
Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in
orbit. They have determined that there are ample
quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and
Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily
available in very large quantities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw


To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining,
and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.


Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.


Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.


Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


No need to have cotton underwear.


They going commando?


I guess, while they are looking around for some of
the many medical supplies that are made from cotton.


But dont have to be.


Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal


You aint established that either.


and they would be better than nothing when the need arises.


Or better than cotton.


The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them.


But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it.


Rambling, arm waving, nonsense.


Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it.


There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify.


Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available.


And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it.


You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ?


Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means?


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when
backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense.


Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.

You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton.


 




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