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In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote: wrote: In sci.physics Ken from Chicago wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... wrote Immortalist wrote Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space programs. While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth. Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt. Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well. Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges. No need to have cotton underwear. They going commando? I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical supplies that are made from cotton. But dont have to be. Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal You aint established that either. and they would be better than nothing when the need arises. Or better than cotton. The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them. But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it. |
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On Aug 30, 12:15*pm, Immortalist wrote:
Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space programs. While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw LEO stuff isn't viable, because it's simply too spendy and otherwise unsustainable, as well as undefendable against whatever is headed our way. If your sun was about to shift from its relatively supermassive red giant phase, down to that of a little white dwarf of less than an eighth its original (pre red supergiant) stellar mass, and if an icy planetoid or proto-moon were going to suddenly become tidal radii discarded and headed in the right/general direction, away from its failing home solar system and migrating towards that of another nearby passive solar system, then by all means such an icy planetoid could become safely utilized as your multi-generation interstellar space craft, as an entirely capable sphere of hosting sustainable life (no matters how weird, dumb or unnecessary some of that life might represent). However, many are correct in thinking that most of us can't seem to manage or otherwise pay for living here on Earth, especially within any similar controlled ecosystem as would be required in space or upon some other planet or moon that isn't already Eden approved. ~ BG |
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Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)
In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
wrote: In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote: wrote: In sci.physics Ken from Chicago wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... wrote Immortalist wrote Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space programs. While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth. Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt. Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well. Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges. No need to have cotton underwear. They going commando? I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical supplies that are made from cotton. But dont have to be. Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal You aint established that either. and they would be better than nothing when the need arises. Or better than cotton. The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them. But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it. Rambling, arm waving, nonsense. There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify. And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Rod Speed wrote wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Ken from Chicago wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Immortalist wrote Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space programs. While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth. Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt. Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well. Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges. No need to have cotton underwear. They going commando? I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical supplies that are made from cotton. But dont have to be. Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal You aint established that either. and they would be better than nothing when the need arises. Or better than cotton. The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them. But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it. Rambling, arm waving, nonsense. Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it. There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify. Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available. And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it. You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ? |
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In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Ken from Chicago wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Immortalist wrote Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space programs. While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth. Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt. Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well. Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges. No need to have cotton underwear. They going commando? I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical supplies that are made from cotton. But dont have to be. Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal You aint established that either. and they would be better than nothing when the need arises. Or better than cotton. The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them. But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it. Rambling, arm waving, nonsense. Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it. There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify. Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available. And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it. You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ? Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means? -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Rod Speed wrote wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Ken from Chicago wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Immortalist wrote Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space programs. While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth. Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt. Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well. Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges. No need to have cotton underwear. They going commando? I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical supplies that are made from cotton. But dont have to be. Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal You aint established that either. and they would be better than nothing when the need arises. Or better than cotton. The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them. But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it. Rambling, arm waving, nonsense. Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it. There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify. Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available. And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it. You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ? Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means? Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag. |
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On 31 Aug, 03:45, wrote:
In sci.physics Ken from Chicago wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... wrote Immortalist wrote Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space programs. While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth. Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt. Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well. Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges. No need to have cotton underwear. They going commando? -- Ken from Chicago I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical supplies that are made from cotton. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I wear satin coulottes...some people have very very tiny pores in their skin, and theyre so sensitive only pink satin desensitises my prickling gooseflesh. no satin |
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In sci.physics Rod Speed wrote:
wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Ken from Chicago wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Immortalist wrote Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space programs. While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth. Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt. Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well. Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges. No need to have cotton underwear. They going commando? I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical supplies that are made from cotton. But dont have to be. Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal You aint established that either. and they would be better than nothing when the need arises. Or better than cotton. The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them. But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it. Rambling, arm waving, nonsense. Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it. There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify. Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available. And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it. You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ? Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means? Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag. Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Rod Speed wrote wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Ken from Chicago wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Immortalist wrote Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space programs. While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily available in very large quantities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth. Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt. Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well. Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges. No need to have cotton underwear. They going commando? I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical supplies that are made from cotton. But dont have to be. Yeah, sure you could make most medical supplies out of something far less than ideal You aint established that either. and they would be better than nothing when the need arises. Or better than cotton. The problem is all those alternatives also depend on organic raw materials to make them. But are a lot easier to make from anything with carbon in it. Rambling, arm waving, nonsense. Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in front of it. There are lots of very good reasons medical supplies are made of cotton and it is trivial to verify. Doesnt mean that they have to be when its not available. And cotton, being an organic material, does have carbon in it. You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bull**** artist ? Are you quite sure you even know what the term "organic material" means? Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag. Standard, content free, Rod Speed response when backed into a corner over his arm waving nonsense. Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag. You aint backed anyone into any corner, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist. You cant list even a SINGLE medical proceedure that cant be done without cotton. |
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