Space Colonization, Settlement, Humanization (shared spaces)

Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization,
space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient)
human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in
science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space
programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others
argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined
that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the
Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily
available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw

In sci.physics Immortalist wrote:
Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization,
space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient)
human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in
science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space
programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others
argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined
that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the
Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily
available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw

To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate nearly
the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing infrastructure
of the Earth.

Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.


--
Jim Pennino

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Immortalist wrote

Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous
(self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is
a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of
various national space programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars,
others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have
determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary
materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar
energy is readily available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw

To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate
nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing
infrastructure of the Earth.

Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.

Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.

Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.

No need to have cotton underwear.

Immortalist wrote:

Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization,
space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient)
human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in
science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space
programs.
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Don't be more of a hapless idiot than you routinely demonstrate.
There are no plans for a self-contained colony anywhere doing
anything. Catch two asstronaughts going at it in ISS FUBAR and NASA
will crash the white elephant into Australia will all on board. The
Shire of Esperance is ground zero - for being uppity with Spylab, er.
Skylab.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

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Immortalist wrote

Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous
(self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is
a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of
various national space programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars,
others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have
determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary
materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar
energy is readily available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw

To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate
nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing
infrastructure of the Earth.

Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.

Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.

Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.

No need to have cotton underwear.

They going commando?

-- Ken from Chicago

In sci.physics Ken from Chicago wrote:

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Immortalist wrote

Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous
(self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is
a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of
various national space programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars,
others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have
determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary
materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar
energy is readily available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw

To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to duplicate
nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and manufacturing
infrastructure of the Earth.

Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.

Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.

Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special challenges.

No need to have cotton underwear.

They going commando?

-- Ken from Chicago

I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical
supplies that are made from cotton.


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Jim Pennino

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In sci.physics Ken from Chicago wrote:

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Immortalist wrote

Space colonization (also called space settlement, space
humanization, space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous
(self-sufficient) human habitation of locations outside Earth. It
is a major theme in science fiction, as well as a long-term goal
of various national space programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars,
others argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have
determined that there are ample quantities of all the necessary
materials on the Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar
energy is readily available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw

To be totally self-sufficient, such a colony would need to
duplicate nearly the entire agricultural, mining, refining, and
manufacturing infrastructure of the Earth.

Nope, just decide what it wants to duplicate and what it doesnt.

Just like it gets to decide what of the environment and plants
and animals on earth it wants to have in the colony as well.

Making cotton underwear and plastic are going to be special
challenges.

No need to have cotton underwear.

They going commando?

I guess, while they are looking around for some of the many medical
supplies that are made from cotton.

But dont have to be.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:15:15 -0700, Immortalist wrote:

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others
argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined
that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the
Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily
available in very large quantities.

The base want is to 'see' a human as a total organism going and living
somewhere else. Instead of a part of this human organism. A part of
humans cell structure, a DNA sample.

Also the human in relationship to perception of the evolutionary chain.
For humans to live somewhere else, any part of this chain might
accomplish much the same thing.

The space colony idea is to travel inside of an idea. The idea being a
fully evolved and developed human. The question is, does life really work
this way? It does not seem so.

What is thought to be the most advanced societies ever to dwell upon the
earth, some are now steeped in arguments over how to 'pay' for human
health and if, or not, the planet they live on is changing. It is
unfathomable how such a group could then 'pay for' a ongoing mars colony.
They can not even 'pay for' the one on earth!

On Aug 30, 12:15*pm, Immortalist wrote:
Space colonization (also called space settlement, space humanization,
space habitation, etc.) is the concept of autonomous (self-sufficient)
human habitation of locations outside Earth. It is a major theme in
science fiction, as well as a long-term goal of various national space
programs.

While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others
argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined
that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the
Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily
available in very large quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwOuaJ_fSw

You've got to be joking. LEO is hardly "Space Colonization",
especially at $20e3/kg (inert mass) and perhaps $50e3/kg of
biodiversity that's as complex as humans. Obviously you are rich and
powerful, and don't have to actually do anything for earning that
loot, and you obviously own slaves that you don't even have to feed or
properly house. India still has a Caste system, and your system is?

A planet like Venus has unlimited local energy and all the minerals or
elements of Earth, except most of those being a whole lot easier to
come by. With local energy there's practically nothing that can't be
accomplished (including snow and ice if you like).

Get it? (I didn't think so, because most here are too snookered and
dumbfounded, as dysfunctional 5th graders looking for an exact Eden
like planet where you can survive naked, as in the buff, and without
utilizing any speck of tools or technology, and otherwise no
biological or physiological adjustments)

Good luck with that pathetic hallucination of yours.

Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Aug 31, 4:42*am, ZerkonXXXX wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:15:15 -0700, Immortalist wrote:
While many people think of space colonies on the Moon or Mars, others
argue that the first colonies will be in orbit. They have determined
that there are ample quantities of all the necessary materials on the
Moon and Near Earth Asteroids, and that solar energy is readily
available in very large quantities.

The base want is to 'see' a human as a total organism going and living
somewhere else. Instead of a part of this human organism. A part of
humans cell structure, a DNA sample.

Also the human in relationship to perception of the evolutionary chain.
For humans to live somewhere else, any part of this chain might
accomplish much the same thing.

The space colony idea is to travel inside of an idea. The idea being a
fully evolved and developed human. The question is, does life really work
this way? It does not seem so.

What is thought to be the most advanced societies ever to dwell upon the
earth, some are now steeped in arguments over how to 'pay' for human
health and if, or not, the planet they live on is changing. It is
unfathomable how such a group could then 'pay for' a ongoing mars colony.
They can not even 'pay for' the one on earth!

If an icy planetoid or proto-moon were going to be headed in the right
direction, away from its home solar system and towards that of another
nearby solar system, then by all mean it could be safely utilized as
your multi-generation interstellar space craft, as an entirely capable
sphere of hosting sustainable life (no matters how dumb or
unnecessary).

However, you are correct in that most can't seem to manage or
otherwise pay for living here on Earth, especially within any similar
controlled ecosystem as would be required in space or on some other
planet or moon that isn't already Eden approved.

~ BG