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Old July 8th 16, 09:57 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics
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These direct-collapse black holes may be the solution to a long-standing puzzle in astronomy: How did supermassive black holes form in the early epochs of the universe?

Astronomers Aaron Smith and Volker Bromm of the University of Texas at Austin, working with Avi Loeb of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, have discovered evidence for an unusual kind of black hole born extremely early in the universe. They showed that a recently discovered unusual source of intense radiation is likely powered by a “direct-collapse black hole,” a type of object predicted by theorists more than a decade ago.



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Default Astronomers may have spotted a direct collapse black hole

On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 1:58:02 PM UTC-7, Yousuf Khan wrote:
These direct-collapse black holes may be the solution to a long-standing puzzle in astronomy: How did supermassive black holes form in the early epochs of the universe?

Astronomers Aaron Smith and Volker Bromm of the University of Texas at Austin, working with Avi Loeb of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, have discovered evidence for an unusual kind of black hole born extremely early in the universe. They showed that a recently discovered unusual source of intense radiation is likely powered by a “direct-collapse black hole,” a type of object predicted by theorists more than a decade ago.



Astronomers may have spotted a direct collapse black hole | Astronomy.com
http://www.astronomy.com/news/2016/0...pse-black-hole


More voodoo physics from the Star Trek physics department.

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Old July 9th 16, 09:01 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics
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Default Astronomers may have spotted a direct collapse black hole

Yousuf Khan wrote:

These direct-collapse black holes may be the solution to a long-standing
puzzle in astronomy: How did supermassive black holes form in the early
epochs of the universe?

Astronomers Aaron Smith and Volker Bromm of the University of Texas at
Austin, working with Avi Loeb of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for
Astrophysics, have discovered evidence for an unusual kind of black hole
born extremely early in the universe. They showed that a recently
discovered unusual source of intense radiation is likely powered by a
“direct-collapse black hole,” a type of object predicted by theorists
more than a decade ago.



Astronomers may have spotted a direct collapse black hole | Astronomy.com
http://www.astronomy.com/news/2016/0...pse-black-hole



Nope - even a small amount of ignition drives away all gases.

Gravity alone does not make supermassive black holes.

The supermassive black holes are droplets formed from the original
splatter two mega blackholes colliding that created the universe.
The gravitational field from the larger black hole pierced the
smaller black hole ripping it open for a short while that then
allowed all the firewall material (mostly light) condensed on the other
side of black hole to escape in one burst.
Most of that formed our universe by condensing out from
the intense light, but some of that folded inward as droplets
of black hole matter creating the super massive black hole
with a HUGE amount of matter trapped right next to it probably
in magnetic and or electrostatic confinement to feed on
for billions of years.
Gravity alone does not make supermassive black holes.

Careful measurements of spectra should indicate whether there are
additional confinement mechanisms in place.

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On 09/07/2016 4:01 AM, 7 wrote:
Nope - even a small amount of ignition drives away all gases.


Not if no ignition happened. If you read the article, a knot of gas
could directly form into a SM blackhole of several million or billion
solar masses because there is no nuclear ignition powerful enough to
stop the collapse. The gas starts forming a blackhole even before any
ignition can happen.

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