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nightbat People in 45 F water wearing a life jacket can only stay
conscious for about 8 minutes. Very cold water radiates away body heat
fast. Reality is if I was on the Titanic I could have saved hundreds of
lives just using good science. TreBert

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
nightbat People in 45 F water wearing a life jacket can only stay
conscious for about 8 minutes. Very cold water radiates away body heat
fast. Reality is if I was on the Titanic I could have saved hundreds of
lives just using good science. TreBert
IIRC, one of the ways that lives could have been saved was to transport
people to the iceberg.

See also http://www.ilearn2.com/save_the_titanic.html

Cordially,

RL

nightbat wrote

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

nightbat People in 45 F water wearing a life jacket can only stay
conscious for about 8 minutes. Very cold water radiates away body heat
fast. Reality is if I was on the Titanic I could have saved hundreds of
lives just using good science. TreBert

nightbat

Correct Trebert, good science always wins and Officer Bert's
orange colored float tube life saving invention is based on excellent
science. If only the Titanic folks had them so many could have been
saved even the Captain.

carry on,
the nightbat

RL Yes sitting on ice is very much better than immerged in ice water.
People swam the English channel back then and to stop water from
absorbing their body heat they covered their body with grease. Grease
and womans silk stockings,underwear holding the grease next to their
body(especially the head) they would have been comfortable. They knew
there was a ship about 20 miles away.they should have set fire to the
roof of the top cabins. Every one comes to a fire. It was a clear night.
They should have thrown every thing that floats,like furniture
barrels,tires from cars,and the captain Life boats tied tightly
together so no chance of tipping over. Oars thrown away. I could go on
and on. TreBert

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
RL Yes sitting on ice is very much better than immerged in ice water.
People swam the English channel back then and to stop water from
absorbing their body heat they covered their body with grease. Grease
and womans silk stockings,underwear holding the grease next to their
body(especially the head) they would have been comfortable. They knew
there was a ship about 20 miles away.they should have set fire to the
roof of the top cabins. Every one comes to a fire. It was a clear night.
They should have thrown every thing that floats,like furniture
barrels,tires from cars,and the captain Life boats tied tightly
together so no chance of tipping over. Oars thrown away. I could go on
and on. TreBert


They might have averted the disaster if they hadn't been going at
excessive speed through those dangerous waters with the captain asleep,
trying to make record time. Also they ignored the iceberg warning of
the nearby ship the Californian (within sight), and so the crew of the
Californian turned off their wireless and went to bed, and were unable
to receive the later distress call. They were the closest ship.

More lives could have been saved if they had:

1. Had enough lifeboats (they only had enough for 53% of the
passengers).

2. Filled the lifeboats to capacity (they didn't).

3. Launched all the boats available (2 remained unlaunched).

One thousand remained on deck as the ship went down.

At least the captain went down with his ship, unlike a much less heroic
story in the news lately where the captain and crew quickly abandoned a
sinking vessel and let all the passengers go down with the ship!

Double-A

Double-A Reality is the captain would have gone to jail. Shows things
are relative in this reference. Sitting on the deck of the biggest ship
ever built you say it is one very safest place. Seeing this ship at a
distance,and its just a speck on the ocean is more realistic. Size
means nothing to the ocean. My barrel sail boat is very small,but is a
million times safer.than any ship now afloat Some day it will carry me
over the spray,and rainbow of Niagara Falls TreBert

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Double-A Reality is the captain would have gone to jail. Shows things
are relative in this reference. Sitting on the deck of the biggest ship
ever built you say it is one very safest place. Seeing this ship at a
distance,and its just a speck on the ocean is more realistic. Size
means nothing to the ocean. My barrel sail boat is very small,but is a
million times safer.than any ship now afloat Some day it will carry me
over the spray,and rainbow of Niagara Falls TreBert


Bert,

Small boats have their advantages too. They aren't likely to break
apart no matter what happens.

The Titanic's large mass was only sound while water supported it
evenly. Once the stern was lifted out of the water by the ship taking
on water up front, the water was no longer supporting its great weight,
and the bolts and welds just couldn't hold any longer, and so the ship
broke in two and down she went!

Double-A

Double_A Its double hull should not have air,but filled in those days
with balsa wood. To day Styrofoam. That is making good use of Pauli"s
principle Trebert.

Alas, BEERTbreath, you don't go on cruises!

One correction: Cold water doesn't radiate heat away, it sucks it
away (convection). Your terminology continues at the pre-kindergarten
level.

Saul Levy


On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:29:58 -0500, (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:

nightbat People in 45 F water wearing a life jacket can only stay
conscious for about 8 minutes. Very cold water radiates away body heat
fast. Reality is if I was on the Titanic I could have saved hundreds of
lives just using good science. TreBert

If you'd ever been on a cruise, you'd know that the furniture is all
screwed down or welded to the decks. It can get rough out there!

Saul Levy


On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:01:52 -0500, (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:

RL Yes sitting on ice is very much better than immerged in ice water.
People swam the English channel back then and to stop water from
absorbing their body heat they covered their body with grease. Grease
and womans silk stockings,underwear holding the grease next to their
body(especially the head) they would have been comfortable. They knew
there was a ship about 20 miles away.they should have set fire to the
roof of the top cabins. Every one comes to a fire. It was a clear night.
They should have thrown every thing that floats,like furniture
barrels,tires from cars,and the captain Life boats tied tightly
together so no chance of tipping over. Oars thrown away. I could go on
and on. TreBert