The theory of gravity

"Chris.B" wrote in
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On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 07:57:27 UTC+2, 1461 wrote:

At least you proved useful over the years until you faded into
the slogan chanting background of the mindless empirical mob.

So said "Sunshine" the lead singer of "Screaming Heads" hoarsely
between repetitive gigs in small, forgotten bars and has-been
nightclubs.

How is the anger management therapy going, Sunshine?

Like you're any different, other than the heavy drinking.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

Gerald Kelleher wrote in
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 11:02:58 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins
wrote:


I think Brad Guth would be fractionally higher.

All I do is

Spew random idiocy in a desperate attempt to have *some* human
contact, since the nurses at the home just slap you around until you
stop talking, and refuse to change your diaper.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 4:03:28 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
Gerald, you definitely do *not* "pump out insight after insight...", you are simply delusional...

The same response goes to you as to Collins, the original Sun centered astronomers never resolved the issue of inner planetary retrogrades which is why all eclipses in future will take on a more relevant perspective. I am comfortable with the issue where the restrictions placed on observers are suspended during a total eclipse insofar as there is no longer a split between dawn and twilight appearances as observers get the full picture during an eclipse composing of the background stars to the left and right of the Sun along with the inner planets.

http://www.zam.fme.vutbr.cz/~druck/e...Tse1997uw2.png

It has nothing to do with being right, people who recognize the insight will get a sense of satisfaction that will be denied many like you.

On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:43:18 AM UTC-7, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 4:03:28 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
Gerald, you definitely do *not* "pump out insight after insight...", you are simply delusional...

The same response goes to you as to Collins, the original Sun centered astronomers never resolved the issue of inner planetary retrogrades...

Of course they did! Why would you think otherwise? The apparent retrograde motion of the inferior planets (NOT 'inner' planets) have the exact same definition as do the superior planets...

"Apparent retrograde motion is the apparent motion of a planet in a direction opposite to that of other bodies within its system, as observed from a particular vantage point. Direct motion or prograde motion is motion in the same direction as other bodies."

You will never understand, for you remain, as always, completely unteachable.

On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 4:52:10 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:43:18 AM UTC-7, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 4:03:28 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
Gerald, you definitely do *not* "pump out insight after insight...", you are simply delusional...

The same response goes to you as to Collins, the original Sun centered astronomers never resolved the issue of inner planetary retrogrades...

Of course they did! Why would you think otherwise? The apparent retrograde motion of the inferior planets (NOT 'inner' planets) have the exact same definition as do the superior planets...


Outer planetary retrogrades are based solely on relative speeds between a faster moving Earth and the slower moving outer planets and that is why they temporarily fall behind in view as Saturn and Jupiter are seen to do in the time lapse -

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap011220.html

Inner planetary retrogrades are equally fascinating and different in that those planets move in one direction behind the Sun from their widest point seen from a slower moving Earth to the opposite direction as they turn back in front of the Sun -

http://www.zam.fme.vutbr.cz/~druck/e...Tse1997uw2.png

Relative motions between the Earth and the inner planets play a very minor role as setting the Sun up as a central reference is based on the transition of the background stars from left to right. It is clear from Kepler statement on retrogrades that this perspective is entirely new ,easily acknowledged with imaging and a fitting narrative for the upcoming eclipse -

". . . the ancient hypotheses clearly fail to account for certain important matters. For example, they do not comprehend the causes of the numbers, extents and durations of the retrogradations and of their agreeing so well with the position and mean motion of the sun.
" 1596, Mysterium Cosmographicum



You will never understand, for you remain, as always, completely unteachable.

Children will love the observation in future even if they know nothing about where it came from but such is the Christian life.

The apparent retrograde motions of both the inferior and superior planets have zero association with the Christian life... nada.

On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:29:32 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
The apparent retrograde motions of both the inferior and superior planets have zero association with the Christian life... nada.

This is the space age so inner and outer planets are relative terms insofar as the Earth seen from the surface of Mars will show a full set of phases and display the same circuit running loop as we see Venus and Mercury accomplish from the surface of the Earth -

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...015%2Beng..jpg


That is a set of images where Venus is to the left of the Sun (evening appearances) so when I realized that you hadn't the slightest satisfaction in appreciating the set of images while other people truly do,I give greater focus to referencing not only the inner planets to the central Sun but also the background stars as they move from an evening to a morning appearance seen from the Earth's surface.

That celestial sphere cage of above/below that you exist in can't make use of the upcoming eclipse and how it removes the restrictions of dawn/twilight appearances of the inner planets or indeed the amazing glimpse of the solar system that is only observed by inference otherwise.

http://www.zam.fme.vutbr.cz/~druck/e...Tse1997uw2.png

Anyone who approaches the eclipse with humility will adore what it means aside from the moon moving in front of the Sun. It is a 'behold' moment for those who wish to consider themselves astronomers and that is what it means to be inspired (spiritual).

Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:29:32 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
The apparent retrograde motions of both the inferior and superior
planets have zero association with the Christian life... nada.

This is the space age so inner and outer planets are relative terms
insofar as the Earth seen from the surface of Mars will show a full set
of phases and display the same circuit running loop as we see Venus and
Mercury accomplish from the surface of the Earth -

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...015%2Beng..jpg


That is a set of images where Venus is to the left of the Sun (evening
appearances) so when I realized that you hadn't the slightest
satisfaction in appreciating the set of images while other people truly
do,I give greater focus to referencing not only the inner planets to the
central Sun but also the background stars as they move from an evening to
a morning appearance seen from the Earth's surface.

That celestial sphere cage of above/below that you exist in can't make
use of the upcoming eclipse and how it removes the restrictions of
dawn/twilight appearances of the inner planets or indeed the amazing
glimpse of the solar system that is only observed by inference otherwise.

http://www.zam.fme.vutbr.cz/~druck/e...Tse1997uw2.png

Anyone who approaches the eclipse with humility will adore what it means
aside from the moon moving in front of the Sun. It is a 'behold' moment
for those who wish to consider themselves astronomers and that is what it
means to be inspired (spiritual).



You can see Venus (and Sirius) with the naked eye in daytime. The problem
is knowing where to look.

On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 3:02:48 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:29:32 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
The apparent retrograde motions of both the inferior and superior
planets have zero association with the Christian life... nada.

This is the space age so inner and outer planets are relative terms
insofar as the Earth seen from the surface of Mars will show a full set
of phases and display the same circuit running loop as we see Venus and
Mercury accomplish from the surface of the Earth -

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...015%2Beng..jpg


That is a set of images where Venus is to the left of the Sun (evening
appearances) so when I realized that you hadn't the slightest
satisfaction in appreciating the set of images while other people truly
do,I give greater focus to referencing not only the inner planets to the
central Sun but also the background stars as they move from an evening to
a morning appearance seen from the Earth's surface.

That celestial sphere cage of above/below that you exist in can't make
use of the upcoming eclipse and how it removes the restrictions of
dawn/twilight appearances of the inner planets or indeed the amazing
glimpse of the solar system that is only observed by inference otherwise.

http://www.zam.fme.vutbr.cz/~druck/e...Tse1997uw2.png

Anyone who approaches the eclipse with humility will adore what it means
aside from the moon moving in front of the Sun. It is a 'behold' moment
for those who wish to consider themselves astronomers and that is what it
means to be inspired (spiritual).



You can see Venus (and Sirius) with the naked eye in daytime. The problem
is knowing where to look.

What I am doing is pure astronomy which should delight any newcomer with a curiosity a stone cold mind and heart can't enjoy. The partitioning between dawn and twilight appearances are suspended at the eclipse with the inner planets and the background stars which normally transition from left to right of the Sun.

The outer planets transition from a dawn appearance through darkness and back into a twilight appearance as they move slower than the Earth hence the necessary partitioning and depending from which planet the motions are observed.Mars and all the outer planets will not transition from an evening to dawn appearance seen from Earth as the inner planets do and this information alone would be invaluable for any astronomer getting a glimpse of the solar system in its pure form in a number of weeks as the eclipse occurs.

http://www.zam.fme.vutbr.cz/~druck/e...Tse1997uw2.png

Good luck to those who are fortunate enough to catch the upcoming event and hope the weather holds out.

The last response is really wide open for misinterpretation.

The inner planets Venus and Mercury run a loop from left to right in front of the Sun and from right to left as they move behind the Sun .From when the inner planets appear from behind the Sun's glare until they enter it they are to the right of the Sun and evening appearances -

http://www.zam.fme.vutbr.cz/~druck/e...Tse1997uw2.png

Jupiter as an outer planet in that image moves from left to right but never in the same manner as Venus and Mercury nor for the reasons given that retrogrades are entirely different for inner and outer planets.