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Old November 20th 07, 05:58 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.astro, fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.maths
Pentcho Valev
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Default PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY?

Harvey Brown's and Oliver Pooley's idea:

MINKOWSKI SPACE-TIME: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY

is extremely dangerous since it naturally leads to:

PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY

which sounds like Bryan Wallace's:

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
THE FARCE OF PHYSICS

So the cleverest hypnotist in Einstein criminal cult, John Norton,
urgently published a rebutal which however is not convincing:

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers...Relativity.pdf
John Norton: "These sentiments are captured more vividly in the
earlier slogan of Brown and Pooley (2004) of Minkowski spacetime as a
"glorious non-entity." This would make Brown's view a form of
spacetime relationism, although I will suggest below in Section 6 that
it might be more restrictive than familiar forms of relationism."

The problem is that Harvey Brown and Oliver Pooley CAN whereas John
Norton CANNOT explain how a long train can be trapped inside a short
tunnel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIy...elated&search=

or a 80m long pole can be trapped inside a 40m long barn:

http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/ph...barn_pole.html
"These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors
at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a
switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in
the barn....So, as the pole passes through the barn, there is an
instant when it is completely within the barn. At that instant, you
close both doors simultaneously, with your switch. Of course, you open
them again pretty quickly, but at least momentarily you had the
contracted pole shut up in your barn."

Pentcho Valev
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Old November 20th 07, 06:04 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.astro, fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.maths
Dono
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Default PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY?

On Nov 20, 8:58 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:


Pentiuska

http://www.movv.com/prvupload/upload...etard_stfu.jpg
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Old November 20th 07, 06:10 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.maths
Dirk Van de moortel
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Default PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY?


"Dono" wrote in message ...
On Nov 20, 8:58 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:


Pentiuska

http://www.movv.com/prvupload/upload...etard_stfu.jpg


He's really more like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOks8ndk6sM

Dirk Vdm
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Old November 20th 07, 06:17 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.astro, fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.maths
Pentcho Valev
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Default PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY?

On Nov 20, 7:10 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com wrote:
"Dono" wrote in ...
On Nov 20, 8:58 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:


Pentiuska


http://www.movv.com/prvupload/upload...etard_stfu.jpg


He's really more like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOks8ndk6sM


I like that. Bravo Moortel!

Pentcho Valev
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Old November 20th 07, 10:23 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.astro, fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.maths
Dono
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Default PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY?

On Nov 20, 9:17 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On Nov 20, 7:10 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-

SperM.hotmail.com wrote:
"Dono" wrote in ...
On Nov 20, 8:58 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:


Pentiuska


http://www.movv.com/prvupload/upload...etard_stfu.jpg


He's really more like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOks8ndk6sM


I like that. Bravo Moortel!

Pentcho Valev




The way to getan answer, you too may be like this when you grow up:

http://www.movv.com/prvupload/upload...etard_stfu.jpg
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Old November 22nd 07, 10:38 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.astro, fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.maths
Pentcho Valev
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Default PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY?

On Nov 20, 6:58 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Harvey Brown's and Oliver Pooley's idea:

MINKOWSKI SPACE-TIME: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY

is extremely dangerous since it naturally leads to:

PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY

which sounds like Bryan Wallace's:

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
THE FARCE OF PHYSICS

So the cleverest hypnotist in Einstein criminal cult, John Norton,
urgently published a rebutal which however is not convincing:

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers...Relativity.pdf
John Norton: "These sentiments are captured more vividly in the
earlier slogan of Brown and Pooley (2004) of Minkowski spacetime as a
"glorious non-entity." This would make Brown's view a form of
spacetime relationism, although I will suggest below in Section 6 that
it might be more restrictive than familiar forms of relationism."

The problem is that Harvey Brown and Oliver Pooley CAN whereas John
Norton CANNOT explain how a long train can be trapped inside a short
tunnel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIy...elated&search=

or a 80m long pole can be trapped inside a 40m long barn:

http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/ph...barn_pole.html
"These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors
at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a
switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in
the barn....So, as the pole passes through the barn, there is an
instant when it is completely within the barn. At that instant, you
close both doors simultaneously, with your switch. Of course, you open
them again pretty quickly, but at least momentarily you had the
contracted pole shut up in your barn."


If Harvey Brown and Oliver Pooley were honest scientists, their
slogan:

MINKOWSKI SPACE-TIME: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY

would take a more precise form:

EINSTEIN'S LIGHT POSTULATE: A GLORIOUS FALSEHOOD

In fact, Einsteinians have always being trying to solve the following
problem:

"How to get rid of Einstein's false light postulate without destroying
Einstein money-spinner?"

This task is idiotic of course and Einsteinians know that; at least
dying Bryan Wallace has explained it to them quite clearly:

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
"Einstein's special relativity theory with his second postulate that
the speed of light in space is constant is the linchpin that holds the
whole range of modern physics theories together. Shatter this
postulate, and modern physics becomes an elaborate farce!"

Still, without Einstein's false light postulate, Einsteinians would
somehow feel "less criminal" so they will never stop trying to get rid
of it:

http://o.castera.free.fr/pdf/onemorederivation.pdf
Jean-Marc Levy-Leblond: "This is the point of view from wich I intend
to criticize the overemphasized role of the speed of light in the
foundations of the special relativity, and to propose an approach to
these foundations that dispenses with the hypothesis of the invariance
of c....We believe that special relativity at the present time stands
as a universal theory discribing the structure of a common space-time
arena in which all fundamental processes take place....The evidence of
the nonzero mass of the photon would not, as such, shake in any way
the validity of the special relativity. It would, however, nullify all
its derivations which are based on the invariance of the photon
velocity."

http://www.worldscibooks.com/physics/4114.html
Jong-Ping Hsu: "....unexpected affirmative answer to the long-standing
question of whether it is possible to construct a relativity theory
without postulating the constancy of the speed of light and retaining
only the first postulate of special relativity. This question was
discussed in the early years following the discovery of special
relativity by many physicists, including Ritz, Tolman, Kunz, Comstock
and Pauli, all of whom obtained negative answers."

http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.ph...34dc146100e32c
Tom Roberts: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a
nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant
speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both
Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains
of applicability would be reduced)."

http://www.physorg.com/news111075100.html
"Further, Einstein based his theories on the assumption that the speed
of light, c, is constant, and used gedanken ("thought") experiments
involving light rays to reach his conclusions. Now Joel Gannett, a
Senior Scientist in the Applied Research Area of Telcordia
Technologies in Red Bank, New Jersey, has found that Einstein didn't
have to do the work the hard way. A researcher in optical networking
technologies, Gannett has shown that the Lorentz transformations and
velocity addition law can be derived without assuming the constancy of
the speed of light, without thought experiments, and without calculus.
In this case, Einsteinian relativity could have been discovered
several centuries before Einstein."

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i6272.html
John Stachel: "Not only is the theory [of relativity] compatible with
an emission theory of radiation, since it implies that the velocity of
light is always the same relative to its source; the theory also
requires that radiation transfer mass between an emitter and an
absorber, reinforcing Einstein's light quantum hypothesis that
radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain
circumstances."

Pentcho Valev

 




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