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George wrote:
"Rick Johnson" wrote in message ... Your huge post knocked 3 months of other folks real posts off my server. Anything sent prior to your post was deleted as was nearly all but the last couple hundred files of your post. The rest exceeded the allocated disk space the server has for this group. Don't hog the server for yourself and knocks others off. My filters must be working correctly, because the only posts I saw from that person was his apology. They may have been blocked since the parts were "too big" (500k). This limit is server dependant. E.g. Easynews let them through. -- I recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 05:55:29 -0000, Skywise
wrote: It would appear Supernews blcoked both the original messages and the cancels, probably caught by one of their kagillions of filters. Probably thought it was a flood. (which it really was if you think about it) Filters ERGH! One of the reasons I chose Altopia is there is absolutely positively zero filtering. -- This message has been brought to you by solar and wind power. Who needs the national grid? http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Thought for the Day: The Bible teaches us to love your neighbour, and the Kama Sutra explains how. |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:36:48 -0600, Rick Johnson
wrote: Peter Hucker wrote: On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:20:22 -0600, Rick Johnson wrote: Ralph Hertle wrote: Asterix wrote: It appears that along with the drawing (a 646K TIFF file) you posted two more TIFF files 64MB and 47MB in size (which I haven't looked at so I don't really know if they *are* TIFFs). There may be more - I just looked what came though Easynews' decoder. Sorry - but deleting won't help very much as most news servers don't honor cancels. Asterix: Thanks for your remarks. I managed to clear out all the bad message files. They were part of overly large raster files, and either Verizon DSL or Mozilla Thunderbird wouldn't transmit them and corrupted them. Prior to posting, however, the files displayed properly in MicroStation V7 CAD and Irfanview. I managed to stop the writing process for the corrupt files by rebooting the locked machine. Otherwise, I might still be here deleting. I wanted the larger file to be posted in order to gain the higher resolution for text legibility. I'll have to find a new way to make the .tif files. Possibly PDFs for that purpose. I know nothing regarding other news servers - sorry if there were problems. Ralph Hertle NEVER POST TIF You will get hate mail forever for that. Your huge post knocked 3 months of other folks real posts off my server. Anything sent prior to your post was deleted as was nearly all but the last couple hundred files of your post. The rest exceeded the allocated disk space the server has for this group. Don't hog the server for yourself and knocks others off. Get yourself a proper server. Mine keeps the last x days of posts, where x is different for text, binary, and multipart binary. X does not change just cause there happens to be more posts that day in a particular group. What an insane way of doing things! Post JPG and keep the post size under 1 meg. If over say about 500k put a note in the subject file that it is a large file. But yes, jpg is just as good as tif. I live in the woods where high speed is unavailable and even satellite is slow and expensive (Only twice dialup speed) It takes me 3 minutes just to download a 1 meg file. A typical TIF is far larger than that and no way I'd ever even try. What is the distance from your phone exchange to your house? They can send it a long long way nowadays. It gets longer every year with new technology. JPG has all the resolution you need. News posts are actually sent and received as 7 bit files with parity. So they are quite a bit larger than the same file posted on the net. Not if you use yenc. And most servers do 8 bit now. Don't make things worse by posting TIF PLEASE. I'll just build a kill file filter for your posts as will most others. But the worst part is that your large files may, indeed this one did, knock someone else off my server before I get a chance to see it. I can't do a thing about that except add to my already high internet cost by subscribing to a pay news feed. Oh you're on a freebie one. That explains it. How can you put up with such rubbish? Do you have a telescope? I bet it cost billions of times more than a news subscription. Mine starts at $6 a month. If you just must a TIF available post it to the net then give us the URL. If you ever even looked at this news group before posting to find out what goes on here you'd know if I had a telescope and you'd know not to post large TIF files. I put up with it because it is ALL THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ME. Considering the circumstances it isn't rubbish at all. There is no alternative that doesn't cost over $100 per month. With only 19 official year around residents in my 36 square mile township, of which only 8 actually are here for December through February, getting anything beyond dialup is amazing considering their capital costs per customer! I know of only one other that they serve in this township and I know everyone here. I have a choice of this one service that's not dialup and it is only twice dialup speed. It's a small locally owned mom and pop operation. They normally don't carry ANY image alt sites at all but I got them to carry this one under the rules you find so stupid. It was that or a pay service. Pay news services are available but I'm already at my budget limit. This one normally holds 6 months of this group, it went back to mid June until your post wiped everything out. So the "stupid rules" work quite well giving a retention period far beyond most ISP news servers, even the pay ones, for a non text news group -- until someone hogs the available server space that is. In that case you could just set your newsreader to skip anything over a certain size. -- This message has been brought to you by solar and wind power. Who needs the national grid? http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Those who jump off a bridge in Paris are in Seine. |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 06:03:51 -0000, Skywise
wrote: Peter Hucker wrote in news:0a60n39c1850v2br3h7dcevd6rprr9csl8 : Get yourself a proper server. Mine keeps the last x days of posts, Snipola Each NSP has their own set of retention rules. Being a binaries group, the most common rule is likely a byte cap. Text groups usually have a message count cap. What that cap is depends on their storage space and what they feel is important. Sometimes they leave things at a (low) default until someone brings to the admins attention that a particular group is popular and needs more space. That's a daft way of doing things. Group A might have loads of posts one week, and group B has loads next week. Why artificially impose a fized byte limit on each? Best to have x amount of space for ALL the binary groups together. If there is a flood in one, nothing is affected. What is the distance from your phone exchange to your house? They can send it a long long way nowadays. It gets longer every year with new technology. Just as a point of reference, I tried getting DSL at my house about two years ago. Didn't work. Too far. I was measured as being 27K feet from the SO, nearly twice as far as the signal could go. I make that just over 5 miles. I'm 3.4 miles from the exchange and I was just on the length limit a few years ago (and got 0.5Mbit). The length limit has increased twice since then (I now get 1.5Mbit). You should be able to get it now. Oh, and I live in that big mess on the left coast known as the Los Angeles basin. The nearest "boonies" is 20 miles away from me. -- This message has been brought to you by solar and wind power. Who needs the national grid? http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com _..------.,._ ,-; .------.'-._`-. __.'_/ /______/ ``-`. _.-;'`` --_ ; =, .-'``". `\/| .'--' .-"-.\| | | / .---. `-' | `-..__/ .-. \__'_-__-_____/ .-. \___/ \ '-' / \ '-' / '-.-' '-.-' |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 18:28:03 +0000, Peter Hucker
wrote: In that case you could just set your newsreader to skip anything over a certain size. That doesn't help the problem of posts getting pushed of the news server queue by the spam. On Usenet the watchword is courtesy. Posting nearly 1200 parts, twice, is not courteous in this group where most posts are single part or two part at most. The TIF problem has already been discussed. A 1024 x 768 JPG would have worked just as well or a link to a web server even better. Even NASA doesn't put full size tiffs up front on their servers, they post the low-res stuff with links to the tiffs for those with the interest and bandwidth. Some smaller ISP's don't run their news servers with big retention or they provide more retention in some groups at the expense of others. Some news servers can even cap by article count rather than disk space. This group is not a high-volume group but it is high quality with a very tight-knit group of expert astrophotographers who choose to spend their money on their interest rather than a premium news servers that they don't necessarily need. |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 18:32:41 +0000, Peter Hucker
wrote: 550k!! The limit on my server is 10MB! We're all very happy for you. Hertle's tiff is 49MB on my system. In encoded form it was probably well in excess of 52MB on the news servers. He posted it twice. In both cases the Verizon servers showed erroneous, huge line counts on each part. Many news servers across the globe may have freaked on receipt of the headers. It was an all around bad post. |
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Peter Hucker wrote: On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:36:48 -0600, Rick Johnson wrote: snip I have a choice of this one service that's not dialup and it is only twice dialup speed. It's a small locally owned mom and pop operation. They normally don't carry ANY image alt sites at all but I got them to carry this one under the rules you find so stupid. It was that or a pay service. Pay news services are available but I'm already at my budget limit. This one normally holds 6 months of this group, it went back to mid June until your post wiped everything out. So the "stupid rules" work quite well giving a retention period far beyond most ISP news servers, even the pay ones, for a non text news group -- until someone hogs the available server space that is. In that case you could just set your newsreader to skip anything over a certain size. That can avoid wasting download time, but it won't restore deleted messages to the NNTP server. There are free news servers. I use Teranews once in a while; its retention time for non-paying users isn't usually any better than my ISP's, but OTOH it isn't nearly as likely to lose segments of multi-part files. So I sometimes go there to download files that didn't arrive intact on my ISP's server. -- Odysseus |
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Geoff:
Geoff wrote: [text omitted] That doesn't help the problem of posts getting pushed of the news server queue by the spam. On Usenet the watchword is courtesy. Posting nearly 1200 parts, twice, is not courteous in this group where most posts are single part or two part at most. Courtesy? You are now slamming me when it is not true that I was intentionally discourteous. I find that no files were pushed off the server. Actually three different servers. You can't say that without knowing the actual facts of the server program's operation, and the usage and capacity of the HDDs involved. The report of that happening may have been a problem of someone's local computer. That didn't happen on my computer, which is now functioning normally with a constant zero idle speed. The large .tif file is one thing. I believed that what had happened in the past would be true now. Verizon would disallow the transmission of email files that were in the order of more than 8.3Mb in size. I thought that the same would be true here. Verizon DSl would, on the other hand, permit the downloading of files from NASA or HST that were much larger than the files I uploaded. I thought that I was OK with that. I made my files even larger in order to increase the resolution to make the text more legible than the first images I made. On that basis I simply ignored the size of the files. Verizon did not disallow the too-large files. There may be another factor involved. I had downloaded the usually perfectly functional DAP program. When it arrived I saw two other items in the archive, and I may have attempted to open them to see what the were. They were named: VA220_DAPDD.exe and wrar371.exe . The program, VA220_DAPDD.exe , when opened didn't have the full name on it: "Download Video Accelerator", it just had, "Video Accelerator". That didn't ring right. If I installed that, it was a mistake. I'll have to get rid if it. The wrar371.exe program is a utility for down/up-loading raster files and manipulating the files. Extra-sized files are broken into pieces by that demo program. I though that it was part of DAP and I hit 'Open" instead of "Extract" to download it. That download occurred immediately prior to the flood of raster junk that was uploaded to A.B.P.A . I found it on my system, however, it is now quarantined. It will be removed. For individuals who downloaded the bad files that I posted they can be deleted. If you have MS Outlook Express you can select all the bad files and delete them at one time. If you have Mozilla FireFox each file may have to be deleted separately. Are the bad files remaining on one of the three A.B.P.A servers? Even after I, the owner of the files had deleted them? I don't know. I think that they were properly deleted. DAP is a good program, but somehow, I suspect, the other malicious program was operative and enabled the RAR raster divisions and uploads of the bad raster files. Geoff: You are overly concerned by what was an inadvertent action. It wasn't a lack of courtesy. The files that I uploaded were not spam. They were sent in pieces by an outside malicious program when they would have otherwise been rejected by Verizon DSL. What's your idle speed? Ralph Hertle |
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