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Old May 18th 12, 02:14 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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It's amazing that in such a short amount of time, we've come from
looking for the "holy-grail" of Earth-sized planets to already
discovering things as tiny as Mercury now! However this planet in this
star system, KIC 12557548, is so close to its sun that it's orbiting
every 15 hours, which means that's slowly boiling away. It is estimated
that it will not even exist in 100 million years. It's even likely that
it was once a much larger planet.

It goes to show how remarkably stably the planets in our own solar
system are arranged. Not only is Earth in a Goldilocks zone for life,
but the rest of the planets can be said to be in their own personal
Goldilocks zones, as they are in no danger of being destroyed by their star.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/d...anet-0517.html

Yousuf Khan
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Old May 18th 12, 03:26 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur
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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
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It's amazing that in such a short amount of time, we've come from looking
for the "holy-grail" of Earth-sized planets to already discovering things
as tiny as Mercury now! However this planet in this star system, KIC
12557548, is so close to its sun that it's orbiting every 15 hours, which
means that's slowly boiling away. It is estimated that it will not even
exist in 100 million years. It's even likely that it was once a much
larger planet.

It goes to show how remarkably stably the planets in our own solar system
are arranged. Not only is Earth in a Goldilocks zone for life, but the
rest of the planets can be said to be in their own personal Goldilocks
zones, as they are in no danger of being destroyed by their star.


Or rather, the planets that were not in relatively stable orbits were
ejected long ago. Its not surprising that in a solar system 4 billion years
old has dropped into a stable configuration.


http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/d...anet-0517.html

Yousuf Khan


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Old May 18th 12, 05:32 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur
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On 18/05/2012 10:26 AM, Peter Webb wrote:

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
It goes to show how remarkably stably the planets in our own solar
system are arranged. Not only is Earth in a Goldilocks zone for life,
but the rest of the planets can be said to be in their own personal
Goldilocks zones, as they are in no danger of being destroyed by their
star.


Or rather, the planets that were not in relatively stable orbits were
ejected long ago. Its not surprising that in a solar system 4 billion
years old has dropped into a stable configuration.


Probably true, but we're seeing some strange looking solar systems that
are also pretty old. In fact, this particular solar system is an
orange-dwarf star, which is a somewhat smaller star than our Sun,
meaning it will be longer lived. We don't know how old this system is
currently, but it's like that this star is also now several billion
years old. So just because a star is billions of years old, doesn't mean
that things are stable yet for it.

Yousuf Khan
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Old May 18th 12, 07:06 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur
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On May 18, 6:32*pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:

Probably true, but we're seeing some strange looking solar systems that
are also pretty old. In fact, this particular solar system is an
orange-dwarf star, which is a somewhat smaller star than our Sun,
meaning it will be longer lived. We don't know how old this system is
currently, but it's like that this star is also now several billion
years old. So just because a star is billions of years old, doesn't mean
that things are stable yet for it.

* * * * Yousuf Khan


Given an infinite number of solar systems every possible variety is
likely to exist somewhere. There is not remotely enough data, as yet,
to be able to draw any firm conclusions as to the likely and unlikely.
There has been no new probe to our own solar system which has not
completely rewritten the text books. Our wild guesses as to the number
and orbital position of the past and present Solar planets is
constantly changing with each new discovery and theory.
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Old May 18th 12, 07:38 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On May 18, 12:06*pm, "Chris.B" wrote:
There is not remotely enough data, as yet,
to be able to draw any firm conclusions as to the likely and unlikely.


What, the laws of mechanics and gravity aren't good enough for you?

No, they can't supply answers to every question about the relative
likelihood of different configurations, but they can indeed identify
some configurations as highly unlikely - given any reasonable model of
solar system formation. Until we know how solar systems actually are
formed, in full detail, we won't be able to assign exact relative
probabilities to everything, but that's not the same as not any
answers being firm.

John Savard
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Old May 18th 12, 07:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On May 18, 8:38*pm, Quadibloc wrote:

What, the laws of mechanics and gravity aren't good enough for you?

No, they can't supply answers to every question about the relative
likelihood of different configurations, but they can indeed identify
some configurations as highly unlikely - given any reasonable model of
solar system formation. Until we know how solar systems actually are
formed, in full detail, we won't be able to assign exact relative
probabilities to everything, but that's not the same as not any
answers being firm.


I think you are being too literal. Too many assumptions about mass and
density are based on parochial findings. There are too many unknown
variables when there seem to be a great many lone planets which have
been ejected from their systems. Too many varieties of stars with
vastly different diameters and from tenuous to ultra dense
characteristics. What are the chances of finding worlds with moons or
dense, double stars literally rolling on their surfaces? Aren't their
already suspected cases where planets orbit within the photosphere of
their own star?
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Old May 19th 12, 04:44 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur
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Yousuf Khan wrote:

It's amazing that in such a short amount of time, we've come from
looking for the "holy-grail" of Earth-sized planets to already
discovering things as tiny as Mercury now! However this planet in this
star system, KIC 12557548, is so close to its sun that it's orbiting
every 15 hours, which means that's slowly boiling away. It is estimated
that it will not even exist in 100 million years. It's even likely that
it was once a much larger planet.

It goes to show how remarkably stably the planets in our own solar
system are arranged. Not only is Earth in a Goldilocks zone for life,
but the rest of the planets can be said to be in their own personal
Goldilocks zones, as they are in no danger of being destroyed by their star.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/d...anet-0517.html

Yousuf Khan


or, is it a giant floppy erp bowl?



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Old May 19th 12, 05:54 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default Mercury-sized exoplanet discovered, catch it while you can

On 18/05/2012 11:44 PM, jwarner1 wrote:
or, is it a giant floppy erp bowl?


Is that going to be your standard joke? Work on something else, comedy
is out for you.

Yousuf Khan
 




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