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Old July 7th 04, 02:34 AM
Erik Max Francis
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"Bryan J. Maloney" wrote:

I remember some nutbar cultist arguing some time ago that
"unformity" prove, beyond the shadow of any doubt, that an infinite
number
of civilizations existed within the universe at this very instant. Of
course, he was just a worthless nutter.


You remember incorrectly. Try twisting the words all you want, you
can't make them break.

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Old July 7th 04, 02:41 AM
Erik Max Francis
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"Bryan J. Maloney" wrote:

Bull**** cultism. Prove that your "uniformity" dogma MUST apply to
any
subunit of the universe smaller than the universe as a whole.


Psst. If you're true to the scientific method, insisting that there are
_no_ alien civilizations out there is just as much "bull**** cultism" as
insisting that there are. One is just as much dogma as the other -- the
issue is, you're dogmatic for the other side and don't realize it.

You also seem to mention the word "prove" an awful lot in conjunction
with the scientific method; hate to break it to you, bub, but there's no
such thing.

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  #573  
Old July 7th 04, 02:41 AM
Erik Max Francis
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Default Fermi paradox, your own belief?

"Bryan J. Maloney" wrote:

Bull**** cultism. Prove that your "uniformity" dogma MUST apply to
any
subunit of the universe smaller than the universe as a whole.


Psst. If you're true to the scientific method, insisting that there are
_no_ alien civilizations out there is just as much "bull**** cultism" as
insisting that there are. One is just as much dogma as the other -- the
issue is, you're dogmatic for the other side and don't realize it.

You also seem to mention the word "prove" an awful lot in conjunction
with the scientific method; hate to break it to you, bub, but there's no
such thing.

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  #574  
Old July 7th 04, 03:57 AM
Geoff McCaughan
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In rec.arts.sf.science Bryan J. Maloney wrote:
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A universe with one instance of life is less simple than a universe
with many instances of life.


Bull**** cultism. Prove that your "uniformity" dogma MUST apply to any
subunit of the universe smaller than the universe as a whole.


There is no MUST. Read what I said.

It is perfectly possible that we are the one instance of life in the entire
universe. This does however imply a less simple universe than one where this
instance of life was not an anomaly.

Now prove that we are the only instance.

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  #575  
Old July 7th 04, 03:57 AM
Geoff McCaughan
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Default Fermi paradox, your own belief?

In rec.arts.sf.science Bryan J. Maloney wrote:
Geoff McCaughan abagooba zoink larblortch
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A universe with one instance of life is less simple than a universe
with many instances of life.


Bull**** cultism. Prove that your "uniformity" dogma MUST apply to any
subunit of the universe smaller than the universe as a whole.


There is no MUST. Read what I said.

It is perfectly possible that we are the one instance of life in the entire
universe. This does however imply a less simple universe than one where this
instance of life was not an anomaly.

Now prove that we are the only instance.

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Old July 8th 04, 12:49 AM
Bryan J. Maloney
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Erik Max Francis abagooba zoink larblortch
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"Bryan J. Maloney" wrote:

Bull**** cultism. Prove that your "uniformity" dogma MUST apply to
any
subunit of the universe smaller than the universe as a whole.


Psst. If you're true to the scientific method, insisting that there

are
_no_ alien civilizations out there is just as much "bull**** cultism"

as
insisting that there are.


Absolutely.


One is just as much dogma as the other -- the
issue is, you're dogmatic for the other side and don't realize it.


Wrong, you moron. Here is my challenge: Quote specifically a message
wherein I stated that THERE ARE NO SUCH ENTITIES AT ALL. Go ahead, I
challenge you. Since you're a moron, you will not take up the
challenge--either that or you're a liar and a moron and you will invent
something out of whole cloth or take a piece of a post out of context.

You also seem to mention the word "prove" an awful lot in conjunction
with the scientific method; hate to break it to you, bub, but there's

no
such thing.


Lemme guess--you're in line to collect Randi's prize, too.

  #577  
Old July 8th 04, 12:49 AM
Bryan J. Maloney
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Default Fermi paradox, your own belief?

Erik Max Francis abagooba zoink larblortch
:

"Bryan J. Maloney" wrote:

Bull**** cultism. Prove that your "uniformity" dogma MUST apply to
any
subunit of the universe smaller than the universe as a whole.


Psst. If you're true to the scientific method, insisting that there

are
_no_ alien civilizations out there is just as much "bull**** cultism"

as
insisting that there are.


Absolutely.


One is just as much dogma as the other -- the
issue is, you're dogmatic for the other side and don't realize it.


Wrong, you moron. Here is my challenge: Quote specifically a message
wherein I stated that THERE ARE NO SUCH ENTITIES AT ALL. Go ahead, I
challenge you. Since you're a moron, you will not take up the
challenge--either that or you're a liar and a moron and you will invent
something out of whole cloth or take a piece of a post out of context.

You also seem to mention the word "prove" an awful lot in conjunction
with the scientific method; hate to break it to you, bub, but there's

no
such thing.


Lemme guess--you're in line to collect Randi's prize, too.

  #578  
Old July 8th 04, 12:50 AM
Bryan J. Maloney
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Default Fermi paradox, your own belief?

Geoff McCaughan abagooba zoink larblortch
:

Now prove that we are the only instance.


Point out specifically where I claimed that we are. Of course, since
you're just a cultist, you'll just natter on with your bull**** about
"simpler" and "uniformity".
  #579  
Old July 8th 04, 12:50 AM
Bryan J. Maloney
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Default Fermi paradox, your own belief?

Geoff McCaughan abagooba zoink larblortch
:

Now prove that we are the only instance.


Point out specifically where I claimed that we are. Of course, since
you're just a cultist, you'll just natter on with your bull**** about
"simpler" and "uniformity".
  #580  
Old July 8th 04, 02:32 AM
Geoff McCaughan
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Default Fermi paradox, your own belief?

In rec.arts.sf.science Bryan J. Maloney wrote:
Geoff McCaughan abagooba zoink larblortch
:


Now prove that we are the only instance.


Point out specifically where I claimed that we are.


It was in the same post where I said we were definitely not the only
instance you idiotic jerk.

Of course, since you're just a cultist, you'll just natter on with your
bull**** about "simpler" and "uniformity".


So far all I've seen you do on this thread is jump on anyone who admits the
possibility of life other than on earth by shouting "prove it!"

Are you exceptionally thick or something?

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