Rohrabacher calls for emergency commercial funding

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:27:55 +0200, jacob navia
wrote, perhaps among other things:

Le 30/08/11 19:57, Alan Erskine a écrit :
On 31/08/2011 1:26 AM, jacob navia wrote:


I still do not understand the logic behind giving public founds to
private entreprises.

You mean like the money that's given to Boeing, Lockheed etc?

You have a point here.

Boing, Lockheed, should build planes, not rockets. Since the government
is the only cuomer for rockets it would make sense if the government
built those.


You must stop at a certain point though. Rockets need computers, should
the govt build those also? What about food that the astronauts need in
their trips?

They would probably get tired of Senate Bean Soup day in and day out.
--
"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
-- Ed Abbey

once social seurity and medicare cuts begin voters will demand zero
budget numbers for most non essential projects........

And yet that has never happened in the past when retirement ages were
raised and taxes were increased....

medicare has never been disassembled, as the tea party wants.

nor has SS age been raised 10 years for anyone not currently
collecting.

whats coming isnt minor tweaks its major restructuring .........

the voters wouldnt be happy

On Aug 31, 11:12*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
once social seurity and medicare cuts begin voters will demand zero
budget numbers for most non essential projects........

And yet that has never happened in the past when retirement ages were
raised and taxes were increased....

medicare has never been disassembled, as the tea party wants.

Where did you get that idea? *What makes you think they'll get it?



nor has SS age been raised 10 years for anyone not currently
collecting.

And that's not going to happen, either.



whats coming isnt minor tweaks its major restructuring .........

the voters wouldnt be happy

Fortunately, the big problem with your scenario is not its effects on
Medicare and Social Security, but that you are stupid and ignorant.

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

experts indicate that entitlements must be cut to balance the budget

On Sep 1, 7:39*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Aug 31, 11:12*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
once social seurity and medicare cuts begin voters will demand zero
budget numbers for most non essential projects........

And yet that has never happened in the past when retirement ages were
raised and taxes were increased....

medicare has never been disassembled, as the tea party wants.

Where did you get that idea? *What makes you think they'll get it?

nor has SS age been raised 10 years for anyone not currently
collecting.

And that's not going to happen, either.

whats coming isnt minor tweaks its major restructuring .........

the voters wouldnt be happy

Fortunately, the big problem with your scenario is not its effects on
Medicare and Social Security, but that you are stupid and ignorant.

experts indicate that entitlements must be cut to balance the budget

'Experts' indicate all sorts of things. *Even at that, this is not the
same thing as your prior claim of "medicare ... disassembled" and "SS
age raised 10 years".

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Michelle bachmann running for president on the tea party platform.

Disassemble medicare as we know it..... raise age to collect SS for
anyone not currently collecting. for those in their 20s it would be 10
years longer, since life expectancy has gone up..... elminate the
minimum wage completely, since business would create more jobs if the
cost were cheaper, no increases at all for taxes on the super wealthy
making over 250 grand a year.

theres more this all from face the nation a few weeks ago.......

the tea party/ republicans can gridlock congress, preventing any
legislation from passing.

republicans the party of the superr wealthy who would rather play
politics than actually work.........

Le 01/09/11 17:04, Fred J. McCall a écrit :
bob wrote:


Michelle bachmann running for president on the tea party platform.


Disassemble medicare as we know it..... raise age to collect SS for
anyone not currently collecting. for those in their 20s it would be 10
years longer, since life expectancy has gone up..... elminate the
minimum wage completely, since business would create more jobs if the
cost were cheaper, no increases at all for taxes on the super wealthy
making over 250 grand a year.


Uncited bull****. Show me where she actually said this.


Mrs Bachmann and Medica
-------------------------
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...d-medicare.php
quote
Bachmann spoke this past weekend at the right-wing Constitutional
Coalition in St. Louis, Missouri, and put forth her plan. "So, what you
have to do, is keep faith with the people that are already in the
system, that don't have any other options, we have to keep faith with
them. But basically what we have to do is wean everybody else off," said
Bachmann. "And wean everybody off because we have to take those unfunded
net liabilities off our bank sheet, we can't do it. So we just have to
be straight with people. So basically, whoever our nominee is, is going
to have to have a Glenn Beck chalkboard and explain to everybody this is
the way it is."
end quote

Mrs Bachman and retirement age:
------------------------------
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011...be-in-the-mix/

quote
Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly pressured GOP presidential candidate Michele
Bachmann on how she would lower health care spending during an interview
last night and ultimately forced her to admit that she would likely
support raising the Medicare eligibility age.
end quote

You can look at the interview at that URL if you do not believe the
quote.

Mrs Bachman and the minimum wage:
--------------------------------
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elimi...ry?id=13951494

quote
In an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on Tuesday, the
Minnesota congresswoman did not back away from her previous stance to
eliminate minimum wage in order to "virtually wipe out unemployment."

"I think we need to look at all regulations, whatever--whatever ones are
inhibiting job growth," she said.

When asked if the minimum wage is one of those issues, Bachmann again
just responded, "All regulations."
end quote

Mrs Bachman and taxes paid by rich people:
------------------------------------------
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...bachmann+moore

quote
"For one, I believe my policies prior to '08 would have been much
different from [President Bush's]. I wouldn't have spent so much money,"
she says, pointing in particular at the Department of Education and the
Medicare prescription drug bill. "I would have advocated for greater
reductions in the corporate tax rate and reductions in the capital gains
rate—even more so than what the president did." Mr. Bush cut the capital
gains rate to 15% from 20% in 2003.
end quote

Mrs Bachman and space exploration
---------------------------------
It is very difficult to find anything that Mrs Bachman said
about NASA or space exploration in the web.

The only thing more or less relevant is this:

quote
Republican presidential candidates agree: No more federal money for
human space flight
The Republican presidential field sent a clear message to NASA workers
in Texas and Florida: They don’t see a federal role in funding human
space flight.

The unanimous verdict came during a New Hampshire presidential debate
tonight and following a scathing assessment of NASA management by former
House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga.

Debate moderator John King of CNN asked the other six candidates in
attendance — including Texas Rep. Ron Paul — whether they would continue
federal funding for human space flight.

Not a single candidate — Paul, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney,
former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann,
former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and former Godfather’s Pizza CEO
Herman Cain — raised their hand.
end quote

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I think that Mr Haller is right, Mr McCall.

But surely I could have done a mistake and you will show us where Mrs
Bachman advocates a minimum wage, engages to continue Medicare,
says she will increase taxes for rich people or her fight
for space exploration.

Please enlighten us.

On Sep 1, 4:40*pm, jacob navia wrote:
Le 01/09/11 17:04, Fred J. McCall a écrit :

bob *wrote:

Michelle bachmann running for president on the tea party platform.

Disassemble medicare as we know it..... raise age to collect SS for
anyone not currently collecting. for those in their 20s it would be 10
years longer, since life expectancy has gone up..... elminate the
minimum wage completely, since business would create more jobs if the
cost were cheaper, no increases at all for taxes on the super wealthy
making over 250 grand a year.

Uncited bull****. *Show me where she actually said this.

Mrs Bachmann and Medica
-------------------------http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/bachmann-wean-everybody-of...
quote
Bachmann spoke this past weekend at the right-wing Constitutional
Coalition in St. Louis, Missouri, and put forth her plan. "So, what you
have to do, is keep faith with the people that are already in the
system, that don't have any other options, we have to keep faith with
them. But basically what we have to do is wean everybody else off," said
Bachmann. "And wean everybody off because we have to take those unfunded
net liabilities off our bank sheet, we can't do it. So we just have to
be straight with people. So basically, whoever our nominee is, is going
to have to have a Glenn Beck chalkboard and explain to everybody this is
the way it is."
end quote

Mrs Bachman and retirement age:
------------------------------http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/08/09/291662/bachmann-raising-me...

quote
Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly pressured GOP presidential candidate Michele
Bachmann on how she would lower health care spending during an interview
last night and ultimately forced her to admit that she would likely
support raising the Medicare eligibility age.
end quote

You can look at the interview at that URL if you do not believe the
quote.

Mrs Bachman and the minimum wage:
--------------------------------http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/eliminating-minimum-wage-slash-unemplo...

quote
In an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on Tuesday, the
Minnesota congresswoman did not back away from her previous stance to
eliminate minimum wage in order to "virtually wipe out unemployment."

"I think we need to look at all regulations, whatever--whatever ones are
inhibiting job growth," she said.

When asked if the minimum wage is one of those issues, Bachmann again
just responded, "All regulations."
end quote

Mrs Bachman and taxes paid by rich people:
------------------------------------------http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230425930457637549110363...

quote
* "For one, I believe my policies prior to '08 would have been much
different from [President Bush's]. I wouldn't have spent so much money,"
she says, pointing in particular at the Department of Education and the
Medicare prescription drug bill. "I would have advocated for greater
reductions in the corporate tax rate and reductions in the capital gains
rate—even more so than what the president did." Mr. Bush cut the capital
gains rate to 15% from 20% in 2003.
end quote

Mrs Bachman and space exploration
---------------------------------
It is very difficult to find anything that Mrs Bachman said
about NASA or space exploration in the web.

The only thing more or less relevant is this:

quote
Republican presidential candidates agree: No more federal money for
human space flight
The Republican presidential field sent a clear message to NASA workers
in Texas and Florida: They don’t see a federal role in funding human
space flight.

The unanimous verdict came during a New Hampshire presidential debate
tonight and following a scathing assessment of NASA management by former
House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga.

Debate moderator John King of CNN asked the other six candidates in
attendance — including Texas Rep. Ron Paul — whether they would continue
federal funding for human space flight.

Not a single candidate — Paul, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney,
former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann,
former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and former Godfather’s Pizza CEO
Herman Cain — raised their hand.
end quote

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think that Mr Haller is right, Mr McCall.

But surely I could have done a mistake and you will show us where Mrs
Bachman advocates a minimum wage, engages to continue Medicare,
says she will increase taxes for rich people or her fight
for space exploration.

Please enlighten us.

bob schiffer said to her at the end of the interview if you get all
that you will cripple if not kill the republican party for a
generation.

i still have that episode on my TIVO........