Cold War Hero - Stanislav Petrov

DrPostman wrote in
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On 7 Jul 2004 10:55:37 -0700, (Jim E.) wrote:

Stanislav Petrov was presented with the World Citizen Award on
May 21, 2004, in Moscow. A month later (just a couple weeks ago)
the Senate in the Parliament of Australia passed a motion commending
him for his actions. A link to the Australian Senate motion and
other details and photos, etc., about this incident can be found
he

http://www.brightstarsound.com


Jim E.


I saw something about him on PBS a few years back. He deserves all
the accolades that he can get.

It's really chilling how close we came.

There have been worse incidences. One was when someone in USA put a tape of
a simulated Soviet nuclear attack into the computers so that they got every
indication of a large scale attack. At that time someone had the nerves to
go back to check the original satellite images to check for a computer
glitch, and he found that there were no signature of launches in them.

During the Cuban missile crisis there were several incidents which was
extremely close to starting nuclear war, some of which haven't been
revealed until much later. The most scary may have been that USA dropped
depth charges on Russian subs to force them to the surface. What they
didn't know was that those subs had nuclear torpedoes and were authorized
to use them in an emergency.

At one time there was also a NATO excercise in Europe that almost perfectly
matched a Warzav pact scenario for how NATO would use an excercise as a
pretext for moving troops close to the border for a surprise attack. The
Russians were very close to launching a preemptive attack when the
excercise ended.

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:41:57 GMT, Thomas Palm
wrote:

DrPostman wrote in
:

On 7 Jul 2004 10:55:37 -0700, (Jim E.) wrote:

Stanislav Petrov was presented with the World Citizen Award on
May 21, 2004, in Moscow. A month later (just a couple weeks ago)
the Senate in the Parliament of Australia passed a motion commending
him for his actions. A link to the Australian Senate motion and
other details and photos, etc., about this incident can be found
he

http://www.brightstarsound.com


Jim E.


I saw something about him on PBS a few years back. He deserves all
the accolades that he can get.

It's really chilling how close we came.

There have been worse incidences. One was when someone in USA put a tape of
a simulated Soviet nuclear attack into the computers so that they got every
indication of a large scale attack. At that time someone had the nerves to
go back to check the original satellite images to check for a computer
glitch, and he found that there were no signature of launches in them.

During the Cuban missile crisis there were several incidents which was
extremely close to starting nuclear war, some of which haven't been
revealed until much later. The most scary may have been that USA dropped
depth charges on Russian subs to force them to the surface. What they
didn't know was that those subs had nuclear torpedoes and were authorized
to use them in an emergency.

At one time there was also a NATO excercise in Europe that almost perfectly
matched a Warzav pact scenario for how NATO would use an excercise as a
pretext for moving troops close to the border for a surprise attack. The
Russians were very close to launching a preemptive attack when the
excercise ended.



I disagree with you on these being more serious. In none of them were
orders to launch a nuclear strike given. Petrov was given such an
order yet he ignored it to verify.






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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:41:57 GMT, Thomas Palm
wrote:

DrPostman wrote in
:

On 7 Jul 2004 10:55:37 -0700, (Jim E.) wrote:

Stanislav Petrov was presented with the World Citizen Award on
May 21, 2004, in Moscow. A month later (just a couple weeks ago)
the Senate in the Parliament of Australia passed a motion commending
him for his actions. A link to the Australian Senate motion and
other details and photos, etc., about this incident can be found
he

http://www.brightstarsound.com


Jim E.


I saw something about him on PBS a few years back. He deserves all
the accolades that he can get.

It's really chilling how close we came.

There have been worse incidences. One was when someone in USA put a tape
of
a simulated Soviet nuclear attack into the computers so that they got
every
indication of a large scale attack. At that time someone had the nerves
to
go back to check the original satellite images to check for a computer
glitch, and he found that there were no signature of launches in them.

During the Cuban missile crisis there were several incidents which was
extremely close to starting nuclear war, some of which haven't been
revealed until much later. The most scary may have been that USA dropped
depth charges on Russian subs to force them to the surface. What they
didn't know was that those subs had nuclear torpedoes and were authorized
to use them in an emergency.

At one time there was also a NATO excercise in Europe that almost
perfectly
matched a Warzav pact scenario for how NATO would use an excercise as a
pretext for moving troops close to the border for a surprise attack. The
Russians were very close to launching a preemptive attack when the
excercise ended.



I disagree with you on these being more serious. In none of them were
orders to launch a nuclear strike given. Petrov was given such an
order yet he ignored it to verify.


The fact that someone in that high a level of responsibility ignored a
direct order is indisputably monumental.

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On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:59:30 -0400, "Sovereign Sockpuppet©"
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The fact that someone in that high a level of responsibility ignored a
direct order is indisputably monumental.

....Yet another troll who refuses to trim quotes.

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DrPostman wrote in
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:41:57 GMT, Thomas Palm
wrote:
I disagree with you on these being more serious. In none of them were
orders to launch a nuclear strike given. Petrov was given such an
order yet he ignored it to verify.

Petrov had no order to launch. What he did was not forward the report of
the "launch" to the political leadership who would then have to decide
whether or not to retaliate based on less understanging of the limitations
of the warning system. We can't know what would have happened if Petrov
would have done as supposed and sent the warning upwards in the hierarchy.
Perhaps the people at the top too would have concluded that five missiles
didn't make a reasonable US first strike and that they could afford to
wait.

Here you have a longer list of incidents:
http://www.nuclearfiles.org/kinuclea.../anwindex.html

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:40:46 GMT, Thomas Palm
wrote:

DrPostman wrote in
:

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:41:57 GMT, Thomas Palm
wrote:
I disagree with you on these being more serious. In none of them were
orders to launch a nuclear strike given. Petrov was given such an
order yet he ignored it to verify.

Petrov had no order to launch. What he did was not forward the report of
the "launch" to the political leadership who would then have to decide
whether or not to retaliate based on less understanging of the limitations
of the warning system. We can't know what would have happened if Petrov
would have done as supposed and sent the warning upwards in the hierarchy.
Perhaps the people at the top too would have concluded that five missiles
didn't make a reasonable US first strike and that they could afford to
wait.

Here you have a longer list of incidents:
http://www.nuclearfiles.org/kinuclea.../anwindex.html


I could be wrong, but from what I saw on that program he was told to
launch a retaliatory strike. Are you sure he wasn't?





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- Grant,on the GLP web board, explains to us how
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DrPostman wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:40:46 GMT, Thomas Palm
wrote:

Petrov had no order to launch. What he did was not forward the report
of the "launch" to the political leadership who would then have to
decide whether or not to retaliate based on less understanging of the
limitations of the warning system. We can't know what would have
happened if Petrov would have done as supposed and sent the warning
upwards in the hierarchy. Perhaps the people at the top too would have
concluded that five missiles didn't make a reasonable US first strike
and that they could afford to wait.

Here you have a longer list of incidents:
http://www.nuclearfiles.org/kinuclea.../anwindex.html


I could be wrong, but from what I saw on that program he was told to
launch a retaliatory strike. Are you sure he wasn't?

All I can base myself on is the sources I've read, such as the interview
with Petrof at the start of this thread:

http://www.brightstarsound.com/world...endavisen.html
or looking at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov