Aliens and Deep Space

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 2:48:25 PM UTC-5, casagi... wrote:


When you are ready to talk science we will talk science.


No offense intended, but I can't recall a single instance where you've talked science.

Perhaps you can cite one.

I've repeatedly related my basic scientific argument for this thread :
Distance = Speed x Time and many related issues.

God and supernatural are not science .

Science accomplishes nothing. Until we start from scratch there is no science.

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 4:04:18 PM UTC-5, Herbert Glazier wrote:
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 3:53:24 PM UTC-7, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 5:48:28 PM UTC-5, casagi... wrote:


You can still use your head. Use it to go on excursions it has never been

on before. The future is always about the supernatural. Look at the way the

Romans would look at our technology today. And I think you are smart enough to

know what I mean when I say we are still in the stone age. Or I would not be

talking to you.


There is no supernatural as sure as there is no God.

There is only one universe that by definition includes everything. This is a natural entity. There's nothing else.

It only makes sense to imagine things that are within the framework of known and confirmed laws and principles.



Keep saying there is no God. Keep living in darkness.


When you are ready to talk science we will talk science.
Do I have to pray to Jesus to talk science.Does his creating gravity make him a smarter Jew then me? I'm proud to say I'm straight and he is gay.All the Jews know it then,and today its covered up,but not in Boston.`bert

Jesus could walk on water and raise the dead.

Double-A wrote on 4/08/2019 6:47 AM:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 12:48:25 PM UTC-7, wrote:

When you are ready to talk science we will talk science.

No offense intended, but I can't recall a single instance where you've talked science.

Perhaps you can cite one.

I've repeatedly related my basic scientific argument for this thread :
Distance = Speed x Time and many related issues.

God and supernatural are not science .

How about Distance = Velocity X Time?

Speed could be in a circle!

Double-A

Yes, so the Distance would be around the circumference of that circle!!
Or are you suggesting that Velocity also has to have a directional
quality, not just "meters per second"??

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Daniel

On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 6:10:41 AM UTC-7, Daniel60 wrote:
Double-A wrote on 4/08/2019 6:47 AM:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 12:48:25 PM UTC-7, wrote:

When you are ready to talk science we will talk science.

No offense intended, but I can't recall a single instance where you've talked science.

Perhaps you can cite one.

I've repeatedly related my basic scientific argument for this thread :
Distance = Speed x Time and many related issues.

God and supernatural are not science .

How about Distance = Velocity X Time?

Speed could be in a circle!

Double-A

Yes, so the Distance would be around the circumference of that circle!!
Or are you suggesting that Velocity also has to have a directional
quality, not just "meters per second"??

--
Daniel


Yes. Velocity is a vector.

Double-A

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 3:42:07 PM UTC-7, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 2:48:25 PM UTC-5, casagi... wrote:


When you are ready to talk science we will talk science.


No offense intended, but I can't recall a single instance where you've talked science.

Perhaps you can cite one.

I've repeatedly related my basic scientific argument for this thread :
Distance = Speed x Time and many related issues.

God and supernatural are not science .

Science accomplishes nothing. Until we start from scratch there is no science.

Jesus had his ass scratched by Peter's picker.So Bert

Double-A wrote on 5/08/2019 6:52 AM:
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 6:10:41 AM UTC-7, Daniel60 wrote:
Double-A wrote on 4/08/2019 6:47 AM:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 12:48:25 PM UTC-7, wrote:

When you are ready to talk science we will talk science.

No offense intended, but I can't recall a single instance where you've talked science.

Perhaps you can cite one.

I've repeatedly related my basic scientific argument for this thread :
Distance = Speed x Time and many related issues.

God and supernatural are not science .

How about Distance = Velocity X Time?

Speed could be in a circle!

Double-A

Yes, so the Distance would be around the circumference of that circle!!
Or are you suggesting that Velocity also has to have a directional
quality, not just "meters per second"??

Yes. Velocity is a vector.

Double-A

O.K., so not e.g. 500 mtrs/sec but e.g. 500 mtrs/sec at 265 degrees.

What about in three dimensions??

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Daniel

Yes. Velocity is a vector.

Double-A

O.K., so not e.g. 500 mtrs/sec but e.g. 500 mtrs/sec at 265 degrees.

What about in three dimensions??

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My original posting did not specify a direction but merely refered to total distance traveled.

For simplicity, it assumed we were talking about a direct trip between points in deep space.

In that simplified context it was not necessary to specify direction.

a425couple wrote on 7/08/2019 1:40 AM:
On 8/2/2019 6:33 AM, wrote:
Inarguably, we have had no confirmed contact with Aliens.

Why ? Because practical deep space travel is clearly impossible.

Do the simple math :

DistanceÂ* =Â* Speed x Time

Distances are far too great, Speeds are far too slow and
Â* Times would be prohibitively far too long .

Note that our fastest space probe so far is slower than light by a
factor of nearly 27,000 .
So a one way trip to our very nearest neighbor Alpha Centauri at only
4.367 LY
Â* would take 118 Millennia, where i Millenia = 1,000 years.

Even in the extreemly unlikely event that speeds could be increased to
near light speed, times would still be prohibitively long.

To your "prohibitively long".
That is only if you think that anything past your life time
is prohibitively long.

from
https://www.space.com/22783-voyager-...tar-flyby.html

Interstellar Traveler: NASA's Voyager 1 Probe On 40,000-Year Trek to
Distant Star
By Mike Wall September 13, 2013 Spaceflight

Â*This still from a NASA video shows the Voyager 1 probe nearly 12
billion miles from the sun as it goes boldly into the final frontier of
interstellar space as the farthest man-made object in human history.This
still from a NASA video shows the Voyager 1 probe nearly 12 billion
miles from the sun as it goes boldly into the final frontier of
interstellar space as the farthest man-made object in human
history.(Image: © NASA/JPL-Caltech)
Now that NASA's Voyager 1 probe has left the solar system, its next big
spaceflight milestone comes with the flyby of another star — in 40,000
years.

Voyager 1 entered interstellar space in August 2012, nearly 35 years
after blasting off, scientists announced Thursday (Sept. 12). As it
leaves our solar system behind, the robotic spacecraft is streaking
toward an encounter with a star called AC +79 3888, which lies 17.6
light-years from Earth.

A star field image shows Voyager 1 spacecraft's next destination in the
universe (circled). According to NASA, "In about 40,000 years, Voyager 1
will drift within 1.6 light-years (9.3 trillion miles) of AC+79 3888, a
star in the constellation of Camelopardalis which is heading toward the
constellation Ophiuchus." Image released Sept. 12, 2013.

So it will pass 1.6 light-years for a star that is 17.6 light-years away!!

So with-in about 9% of the total distance! Is that really note-worthy??

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Daniel

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On 13/08/2019 12:01 am, Daniel60 wrote:
a425couple wrote on 7/08/2019 1:40 AM:
On 8/2/2019 6:33 AM, wrote:
Inarguably, we have had no confirmed contact with Aliens.

Voyager 1 entered interstellar space in August 2012, nearly 35 years
after blasting off, scientists announced Thursday (Sept. 12). As it
leaves our solar system behind, the robotic spacecraft is streaking
toward an encounter with a star called AC +79 3888, which lies 17.6
light-years from Earth.

A star field image shows Voyager 1 spacecraft's next destination in
the universe (circled). According to NASA, "In about 40,000 years,
Voyager 1 will drift within 1.6 light-years (9.3 trillion miles) of
AC+79 3888, a star in the constellation of Camelopardalis which is
heading toward the constellation Ophiuchus." Image released Sept. 12,
2013.

So it will pass 1.6 light-years for a star that is 17.6 light-years away!!

So with-in about 9% of the total distance! Is that really note-worthy??




The Voyagers are less than 1 light *day* from the sun. The nearest star
is 4.3 light *years* away. I estimate Voyagers are 2,000 times closer
to our sun than Proxima Centauri. To illustrate the scale place a
marble (Voyagers) 1 meter away from a beach ball (sun). Proxima is 2km
away. I wouldn't say that's cutting the apron strings or really
interstellar space. It's only halfway down the drive way.

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