|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
so would nasa just leave the dead crew, but continue flying more missions? or try to recover the bodies however they could. Why would it matter? *Dead is dead. *Declare the site a memorial and let the bodies rest in peace. familys may not look at things like you do...... |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM had been on the surface
|
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Jan 30, 2:07*pm, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article 1875dba3-991c-4996-b6c7-868e881bfa78 @h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 30, 8:36*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article 80c2ac95-558f-4a3a-842d-9b0e9efa2255 @h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 28, 8:26*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article c046a8b5-2976-448b-bc75-8d21f6a13333 @x18g2000yqo.googlegroups.com, says... Obviously the crew had no way to get home. Would apollo continued to possibly recover the astronauts bodies? *was there any way to even get the bodies home? Were there any plans for such a sad event? Or one where the LM crew gets stranded on the surface? leaving the CM pilot to come home alone? yeah i know its a gruesome topic but do wonder if there were any plans for such outcomes? would the 13 SM defect had been found with a crew stuck in orbit? More "what if" b.s.? *I don't consier that history, I consider it fiction. call it whatever you want. the military tries its best to return all dead military members to their family.I recently had a realtive in afghanistan see his best friend die. kevin had to kill the 13 year old aghanistan kid who killed his buddy, then drag his buddys body back to a safer place. NASA was not, and is not, part of the military. so would nasa just leave the dead crew, but continue flying more missions? or try to recover the bodies however they could. Why would it matter? *Dead is dead. *Declare the site a memorial and let the bodies rest in peace. if a soyuz has a problem in transit to ISS and the crew dies are there any plans to attempt recovering the bodies? If it can be controlled from the ground, no doubt the Russians would try to land as close as they can to the normal recovery zone. *If not, then orbital decay will take care of "recovery". Your morbid curiosity is quite disturbing when combined with your chicken little paranoia. *You must think the whole world is out to get you. you know if manned flight continues, espiclly if mars becomes a destination bad days can occur A "bad day" can occur driving to work. *Do you have any idea how many people in this world are killed by traffic accidents every single day? and look how long challeger debris recovery continued with emphasis on the crew compartment... True, but that is standard operating procedure in the case of any accident. *For a disabled or damaged craft on the moon (or pretty much anywhere beyond LEO), this isn't practical. The best terrestrial example I can think of is Mt. Everest. *Sure, it *might* be possible to recover the many bodies that litter that mountain, but for the ones at the highest altitudes (i.e. in the "death zone", where you're going to die if you don't summit and leave quickly), it's just not practical. *So the bodies still remain on the mountain. Jeff -- ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM had been on the surface
|
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM had been on the surface
"bob haller" wrote in message ... The photos 13s astronauts took right before re entry helped discover the cause of the explosion.... would a stranded crew be ordered to undock to look at their SM, given they were going to die, and the in flight camera may not have had the resolution to show what occured. Ordered, probably not. That said, they were professional test pilots for the most part and would probably continue to "perform the mission to the end" even if the mission changed. photos obviouslywouldnt get bach unless the crew got back, and in this Right because they didn't have any tv cameras. did other tanks have the same defect? over voltage on underrated components No. -- Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM had been on the surface
"bob haller" wrote in message
... On Jan 30, 8:36 am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article 80c2ac95-558f-4a3a-842d-9b0e9efa2255 @h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, says... call it whatever you want. the military tries its best to return all dead military members to their family.I recently had a realtive in afghanistan see his best friend die. kevin had to kill the 13 year old aghanistan kid who killed his buddy, then drag his buddys body back to a safer place. NASA was not, and is not, part of the military. And more over there are plenty of places the military has made no attempt at recovery because the logistics make it too hard (or for other reasons). Fred pointed out the USS Arizona is a memorial and a tomb to those who died on that fateful day. The USS Thresher is not a memorial, but no attempt was made to recover bodies. It just wasn't possible. Basically, it'll come to down "if it's reasonably feasible, they'll do what they can, but not go nuts about it." so would nasa just leave the dead crew, but continue flying more missions? or try to recover the bodies however they could. Why would it matter? Dead is dead. Declare the site a memorial and let the bodies rest in peace. if a soyuz has a problem in transit to ISS and the crew dies are there any plans to attempt recovering the bodies? If it can be controlled from the ground, no doubt the Russians would try to land as close as they can to the normal recovery zone. If not, then orbital decay will take care of "recovery". Your morbid curiosity is quite disturbing when combined with your chicken little paranoia. You must think the whole world is out to get you. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer you know if manned flight continues, espiclly if mars becomes a destination bad days can occur and look how long challeger debris recovery continued with emphasis on the crew compartment... -- Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net |
#17
|
|||
|
|||
Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Jan 30, 2:07*pm, Jeff Findley wrote: In article 1875dba3-991c-4996-b6c7-868e881bfa78 @h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 30, 8:36*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article 80c2ac95-558f-4a3a-842d-9b0e9efa2255 @h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 28, 8:26*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article c046a8b5-2976-448b-bc75-8d21f6a13333 @x18g2000yqo.googlegroups.com, says... Obviously the crew had no way to get home. Would apollo continued to possibly recover the astronauts bodies? *was there any way to even get the bodies home? Were there any plans for such a sad event? Or one where the LM crew gets stranded on the surface? leaving the CM pilot to come home alone? yeah i know its a gruesome topic but do wonder if there were any plans for such outcomes? would the 13 SM defect had been found with a crew stuck in orbit? More "what if" b.s.? *I don't consier that history, I consider it fiction. call it whatever you want. the military tries its best to return all dead military members to their family.I recently had a realtive in afghanistan see his best friend die. kevin had to kill the 13 year old aghanistan kid who killed his buddy, then drag his buddys body back to a safer place. NASA was not, and is not, part of the military. so would nasa just leave the dead crew, but continue flying more missions? or try to recover the bodies however they could. Why would it matter? *Dead is dead. *Declare the site a memorial and let the bodies rest in peace. if a soyuz has a problem in transit to ISS and the crew dies are there any plans to attempt recovering the bodies? If it can be controlled from the ground, no doubt the Russians would try to land as close as they can to the normal recovery zone. *If not, then orbital decay will take care of "recovery". Your morbid curiosity is quite disturbing when combined with your chicken little paranoia. *You must think the whole world is out to get you. you know if manned flight continues, espiclly if mars becomes a destination bad days can occur A "bad day" can occur driving to work. *Do you have any idea how many people in this world are killed by traffic accidents every single day? and look how long challeger debris recovery continued with emphasis on the crew compartment... True, but that is standard operating procedure in the case of any accident. *For a disabled or damaged craft on the moon (or pretty much anywhere beyond LEO), this isn't practical. The best terrestrial example I can think of is Mt. Everest. *Sure, it *might* be possible to recover the many bodies that litter that mountain, but for the ones at the highest altitudes (i.e. in the "death zone", where you're going to die if you don't summit and leave quickly), it's just not practical. *So the bodies still remain on the mountain. Jeff -- ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? Which is easier? Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. |
#18
|
|||
|
|||
Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM had been on the surface
|
#19
|
|||
|
|||
Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... |
#20
|
|||
|
|||
Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:11:25 AM UTC-5, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? Which is easier? Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff LOL, good one there, Jeff! |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Apollo Lunar Surface Communications Requirements | Alan Erskine[_3_] | History | 8 | May 11th 12 04:59 AM |
your dicks will be exploded | Quotation G. Humbles | News | 0 | November 2nd 06 07:42 AM |
your dicks will be exploded | Cricketers F. Preshrank | News | 0 | October 31st 06 05:13 PM |
To the Seven Servants (Angels of the Apocalypse). Physics isWar. To the 144,000 of the Tribes of Israel. On the Final Judaic War. Onthe Fall of Babylon. On the nuclear Holocaust of the Egyptian cultists /Usuryists / Christians / Neo-Nazis. The Vi | Steve | Astronomy Misc | 1 | March 21st 05 03:28 PM |
To the Seven Servants (Angels of the Apocalypse). Physics isWar. To the 144,000 of the Tribes of Israel. On the Final Judaic War. Onthe Fall of Babylon. On the nuclear Holocaust of the Egyptian cultists /Usuryists / Christians / Neo-Nazis. The Vi | Steve | UK Astronomy | 1 | March 21st 05 03:28 PM |