Bye-bye INF treaty?

Pat Flannery wrote:

:"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Torture our prisoners!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."

Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

Pat Flannery wrote:

:
:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: Why would we care if Iraq broke the OPEC cartel? I'd think we'd
: rather like the idea.
:
:
:Oh, _we_ would....big oil wouldn't, as its profits then drop as oil
rices decline.

ROI stays the same across a very broad price range, Pat, so it really
doesn't make any difference to them. God, I wish you people would
think before you assert silly things.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

Fred J. McCall wrote:

:"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Torture our prisoners!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."

Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.


"Mr. President, are you going to pardon Scooter Libby?"
"Scooter who? Never heard of him."
"Mr. President, didn't you considerably cut back funding for the VA,
leading to the sort of of appalling conditions seen at Walter Reed?"
"Walter who? Never heard of him."
"Mr. President, didn't Donald Rumsfeld become the fall guy for this
administration's failures in Iraq?"
"Donald who? Never heard of him."
"Mr. President, it's been said that George Bush is just a mindless
puppet front-man for a bunch of crooks and political wackos who are
doing irreparable harm to this nation, its people, its standing in the
world, and its military forces. What do you think of that statement?"
"George who? Never heard of...hey, wait a second, I resent that. Nobody
talks about my dad like that." :-)

Pat

On Mar 8, 1:30 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Pat Flannery wrote:

:"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Torture our prisoners!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."

Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.

And you lack a sense of humor. But perhaps you can't help that being a
closed rather than an open person.

Eric


--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

On Mar 8, 10:40 am, Pat Flannery wrote:
Fred J. McCall wrote:

:"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Torture our prisoners!"
:"Sir, yes sir!"
:"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."

Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.

"Mr. President, are you going to pardon Scooter Libby?"
"Scooter who? Never heard of him."
"Mr. President, didn't you considerably cut back funding for the VA,
leading to the sort of of appalling conditions seen at Walter Reed?"
"Walter who? Never heard of him."
"Mr. President, didn't Donald Rumsfeld become the fall guy for this
administration's failures in Iraq?"
"Donald who? Never heard of him."
"Mr. President, it's been said that George Bush is just a mindless
puppet front-man for a bunch of crooks and political wackos who are
doing irreparable harm to this nation, its people, its standing in the
world, and its military forces. What do you think of that statement?"
"George who? Never heard of...hey, wait a second, I resent that. Nobody
talks about my dad like that." :-)

Makes me think of the presidents list as:

Reagan
Bush
Clinton
Bush
Clinton

Nothing is doing more to get another Clinton in the WH other than the
current Bush.

Eric


Pat

On Mar 5, 10:44 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Matt wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: Matt wrote:

:
:snipped
:
: :http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...177726543.html
:
: Too easily explained as 'disgruntled employee'. Just reading the web
: page cited and noting the phrasing makes it pretty clear that the
: writer is more interested in 'spin' than accuracy.
:
:
:Considering the circumstances of his resignation, yes, he will sound
:like a disgruntled employee. Paraphrasing - "In my job as an analyst, I
:can see there is no evidence of Iraq having WMDs that are a threat, but
:the gov.au is saying that my department backs their assertion that they
:do. I want no part of it." You value your ethical standards, too, right?
:
:The upshot is, if Australian intelligence was aware of this prior to
:troop deployment to Iraq, it's not a stretch to say that so did the
:intelligence agencies of those major countries you mentioned.
:
:Are you shocked that our governments might actually bend the truth for
:the sake of furthering political endeavours? Let's face it, war is good
:for the economy, and we really need that oil..

I'm shocked that you can't read 'spin' and recognize it. Hell, I
actually had an English course on propaganda and how it works when I
was in high school and yet here you are not being able to recognize
blatant bias when you read it.

Ask yourself how much oil the US got from or is getting from Iraq.

It is about what currency Iraq is accepting for said oil. Saddam dared
to take euros and the current regime is back to using dollars.

Hint: If it was all about oil, we'd have invaded Canada. We get a
lot more oil from them, they're closer, and the women are probably
friendlier.

Canada never changed from accepting dollars for oil. There was reason
to invade them.

Eric

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

Pat Flannery wrote:

:
:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: :"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
: :"Sir, yes sir!"
: :"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
: :"Sir, yes sir!"
: :"Torture our prisoners!"
: :"Sir, yes sir!"
: :"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."
:
: Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.
:
:
:"Mr. President, are you going to pardon Scooter Libby?"
:"Scooter who? Never heard of him."
:"Mr. President, didn't you considerably cut back funding for the VA,
:leading to the sort of of appalling conditions seen at Walter Reed?"
:"Walter who? Never heard of him."
:"Mr. President, didn't Donald Rumsfeld become the fall guy for this
:administration's failures in Iraq?"
:"Donald who? Never heard of him."
:"Mr. President, it's been said that George Bush is just a mindless
uppet front-man for a bunch of crooks and political wackos who are
:doing irreparable harm to this nation, its people, its standing in the
:world, and its military forces. What do you think of that statement?"
:"George who? Never heard of...hey, wait a second, I resent that. Nobody
:talks about my dad like that." :-)

I repeat - Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your
fault.


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 8, 1:30 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: Pat Flannery wrote:
:
: :"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
: :"Sir, yes sir!"
: :"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
: :"Sir, yes sir!"
: :"Torture our prisoners!"
: :"Sir, yes sir!"
: :"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."
:
: Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.
:
:And you lack a sense of humor.

Not at all. I just don't find most political idiocy 'funny'.

:But perhaps you can't help that being a
:closed rather than an open person.

There's a difference between having an open mind and having a hole in
your head, Eric. You demonstrate the latter quite nicely...

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 8, 10:40 am, Pat Flannery wrote:
: Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: :"Dubya says: 'Invade Afganistan'!"
: :"Sir, yes sir!"
: :"Dubya says: 'Invade Iraq'!"
: :"Sir, yes sir!"
: :"Torture our prisoners!"
: :"Sir, yes sir!"
: :"Heh-heh...I didn't say: 'Dubya says', so it's not my fault, ****ers."
:
: Jesus, you're an idiot sometimes, Pat ... and that IS your fault.
:
: "Mr. President, are you going to pardon Scooter Libby?"
: "Scooter who? Never heard of him."
: "Mr. President, didn't you considerably cut back funding for the VA,
: leading to the sort of of appalling conditions seen at Walter Reed?"
: "Walter who? Never heard of him."
: "Mr. President, didn't Donald Rumsfeld become the fall guy for this
: administration's failures in Iraq?"
: "Donald who? Never heard of him."
: "Mr. President, it's been said that George Bush is just a mindless
: puppet front-man for a bunch of crooks and political wackos who are
: doing irreparable harm to this nation, its people, its standing in the
: world, and its military forces. What do you think of that statement?"
: "George who? Never heard of...hey, wait a second, I resent that. Nobody
: talks about my dad like that." :-)
:
:Makes me think of the presidents list as:
:
:Reagan
:Bush
:Clinton
:Bush
:Clinton
:
:Nothing is doing more to get another Clinton in the WH other than the
:current Bush.

And nothing is doing more to keep her (and other Democrats) out than
idiots like the preceding. "I Hate George Bush And So Should You"
isn't considered an adequate statement of policy by most sane
people...


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:On Mar 5, 10:44 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: Matt wrote:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : Matt wrote:
:
: :
: :snipped
: :
: : :http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...177726543.html
: :
: : Too easily explained as 'disgruntled employee'. Just reading the web
: : page cited and noting the phrasing makes it pretty clear that the
: : writer is more interested in 'spin' than accuracy.
: :
: :
: :Considering the circumstances of his resignation, yes, he will sound
: :like a disgruntled employee. Paraphrasing - "In my job as an analyst, I
: :can see there is no evidence of Iraq having WMDs that are a threat, but
: :the gov.au is saying that my department backs their assertion that they
: :do. I want no part of it." You value your ethical standards, too, right?
: :
: :The upshot is, if Australian intelligence was aware of this prior to
: :troop deployment to Iraq, it's not a stretch to say that so did the
: :intelligence agencies of those major countries you mentioned.
: :
: :Are you shocked that our governments might actually bend the truth for
: :the sake of furthering political endeavours? Let's face it, war is good
: :for the economy, and we really need that oil..
:
: I'm shocked that you can't read 'spin' and recognize it. Hell, I
: actually had an English course on propaganda and how it works when I
: was in high school and yet here you are not being able to recognize
: blatant bias when you read it.
:
: Ask yourself how much oil the US got from or is getting from Iraq.
:
:It is about what currency Iraq is accepting for said oil. Saddam dared
:to take euros and the current regime is back to using dollars.

And so we're back to Eric's favorite conspiracy theory....


--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson