Twin non-paradox. Only one explanation.

Baez and his chronies have bull****ted long enough.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...ox/doppler.gif

Baez writes:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...twin_vase.html
(I hasten to add that there are some pitfalls for the unwary: see Section
6.3 of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler for the fine points.)


I'll add without haste: Baez is attempting a confidence trick and is a lying
rogue.
Those are some pitfalls for the unwary.


Here is the real physics of the situation.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...on-paradox.JPG

Everything is symmetrical. Stella is the same age as Terry on return.
SR/GR is garbage, LET is garbage.

Get out of physics and mathematics, Baez, you are an incompetent fraud.

Der alte Hexenmeister.

Der alte Hexenmeister wrote:
Baez and his chronies have bull****ted long enough.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...ox/doppler.gif

Baez writes:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...twin_vase.html
(I hasten to add that there are some pitfalls for the unwary: see Section
6.3 of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler for the fine points.)


I'll add without haste: Baez is attempting a confidence trick and is a lying
rogue.
Those are some pitfalls for the unwary.


Here is the real physics of the situation.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...on-paradox.JPG

Everything is symmetrical. Stella is the same age as Terry on return.
SR/GR is garbage, LET is garbage.

Except that Stella has a note in her logbook that says, "When I flipped
the big red switch today, I felt a big acceleration for about 3 hours.
Potato chips fell off the shelf, made a big mess, and I didn't feel
well enough to clean it up right away." Terry has no equivalent entry
in his logbook, because nothing like that happened to him.

Everything is not symmetrical. Oh wait ... I know: Stella's observation
of physics is garbage or Terry's is garbage, or it's all a confidence
trick.


Get out of physics and mathematics, Baez, you are an incompetent fraud.

And you wasted a lot of time creating a pretty jpeg that has no bearing
on reality, you big goof you.

PD

"PD" wrote in message
ups.com...

Der alte Hexenmeister wrote:
Baez and his chronies have bull****ted long enough.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...ox/doppler.gif

Baez writes:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...twin_vase.html
(I hasten to add that there are some pitfalls for the unwary: see Section
6.3 of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler for the fine points.)


I'll add without haste: Baez is attempting a confidence trick and is a
lying
rogue.
Those are some pitfalls for the unwary.


Here is the real physics of the situation.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...on-paradox.JPG

Everything is symmetrical. Stella is the same age as Terry on return.
SR/GR is garbage, LET is garbage.

Except that Stella has a note in her logbook that says, "When I flipped
the big red switch today, I felt a big acceleration for about 3 hours.
Potato chips fell off the shelf, made a big mess, and I didn't feel
well enough to clean it up right away." Terry has no equivalent entry
in his logbook, because nothing like that happened to him.

Everything is not symmetrical. Oh wait ... I know: Stella's observation
of physics is garbage or Terry's is garbage, or it's all a confidence
trick.

Bull****, Phuckwit Duck, the acceleration is indicated in the diagram,
a smooth curve of change of position as a function of time.


Stella moved in the z-axis, which is up, zeta = z. -- Einstein.
There is no time dilation in z.
Get out of physics and mathematics, Phuckwit Duck, you are an incompetent
fraud.


Get out of physics and mathematics, Baez, you are an incompetent fraud.

And you wasted a lot of time creating a pretty jpeg that has no bearing
on reality, you big goof you.

PD
What is sauce for the goose tastes good with the gander, Phuckwit Duck.
Learn to reason instead of making stupid remarks.
And then **** off, you are an incompetent fraud.
Hexenmeister.

in article , Der alte
Hexenmeister at ey wrote on 1/6/06 11:46 AM:



Get out of physics and mathematics, Phuckwit Duck, you are an incompetent
fraud.


Get out of physics and mathematics, Baez, you are an incompetent fraud.

And you wasted a lot of time creating a pretty jpeg that has no bearing
on reality, you big goof you.

PD
What is sauce for the goose tastes good with the gander, Phuckwit Duck.
Learn to reason instead of making stupid remarks.
And then **** off, you are an incompetent fraud.
Hexenmeister.





If you can't refute the message, attack the messenger.

Der alte Hexenmeister wrote:
"PD" wrote in message
ups.com...

Der alte Hexenmeister wrote:
Baez and his chronies have bull****ted long enough.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...ox/doppler.gif

Baez writes:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...twin_vase.html
(I hasten to add that there are some pitfalls for the unwary: see Section
6.3 of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler for the fine points.)


I'll add without haste: Baez is attempting a confidence trick and is a
lying
rogue.
Those are some pitfalls for the unwary.


Here is the real physics of the situation.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...on-paradox.JPG

Everything is symmetrical. Stella is the same age as Terry on return.
SR/GR is garbage, LET is garbage.

Except that Stella has a note in her logbook that says, "When I flipped
the big red switch today, I felt a big acceleration for about 3 hours.
Potato chips fell off the shelf, made a big mess, and I didn't feel
well enough to clean it up right away." Terry has no equivalent entry
in his logbook, because nothing like that happened to him.

Everything is not symmetrical. Oh wait ... I know: Stella's observation
of physics is garbage or Terry's is garbage, or it's all a confidence
trick.

Bull****, Phuckwit Duck, the acceleration is indicated in the diagram,
a smooth curve of change of position as a function of time.

And somehow you lost track of that information when you asserted that
the two frames, and the physics in them, are symmetrical. You also have
the same acceleration as a smooth curve in Terry's position as a
function of time. Except he doesn't observe an acceleration. That just
*might* indicate a problem, you big goof you.

PD

"Matthew Lybanon" wrote in message
...
in article , Der alte
Hexenmeister at ey wrote on 1/6/06 11:46 AM:



Baez and his chronies have bull****ted long enough.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...ox/doppler.gif

Baez writes:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...twin_vase.html
(I hasten to add that there are some pitfalls for the unwary: see Section
6.3 of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler for the fine points.)


I'll add without haste: Baez is attempting a confidence trick and is a
lying
rogue.
Those are some pitfalls for the unwary.


Here is the real physics of the situation.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...on-paradox.JPG

Everything is symmetrical. Stella is the same age as Terry on return.
SR/GR is garbage, LET is garbage.

Except that Stella has a note in her logbook that says, "When I flipped
the big red switch today, I felt a big acceleration for about 3 hours.
Potato chips fell off the shelf, made a big mess, and I didn't feel
well enough to clean it up right away." Terry has no equivalent entry
in his logbook, because nothing like that happened to him.

Everything is not symmetrical. Oh wait ... I know: Stella's observation
of physics is garbage or Terry's is garbage, or it's all a confidence
trick.

Bull****, Phuckwit Duck, the acceleration is indicated in the diagram,
a smooth curve of change of position as a function of time.


Stella moved in the z-axis, which is up, zeta = z. -- Einstein.
There is no time dilation in z.
Get out of physics and mathematics, Phuckwit Duck, you are an incompetent
fraud.


Get out of physics and mathematics, Baez, you are an incompetent fraud.

And you wasted a lot of time creating a pretty jpeg that has no bearing
on reality, you big goof you.

PD
What is sauce for the goose tastes good with the gander, Phuckwit Duck.
Learn to reason instead of making stupid remarks.
And then **** off, you are an incompetent fraud.
Hexenmeister.

But then Matthew Lybanon came along ansd snipped most of it,
so I snipped all if his.
Hexenmeister.

Fully right. There is no paradox at all. All twins are everywhere in the
present.
Thats the truth and one of the main mistakes in Relativity. But one of the
most important.
GR is wrong - not only a little like SR but fully.
The alternative SR gravity theory is: Put velocity dependent masses into the
newton gravity law.
Then you get the right perihelion of mercury. You then get also apparent
time contractions, which must be
compensated by a apparent time delays as given in SR. Cause: the rotation in
a moved system
has stronger two body forces which results in higher speed and smaller
distances. Now the turnament of
planets defies time and is not dependent on the velocity of the reference
frame. Therefore you need
unfold the contracted room in order to get the physical room and you need
time dilation in order
to get the right present time everywhere. All this understandable with this
simple change in Newtons
gravity law.

Photons also have a dynamic mass leading to the same light bending around
the sun as GR does.
Whats missing is the correct revised SR cosmology which also includes
Hubbles Law and maybe
the Pioneer anomalies.

Ask the time managers with the highest precision clocks in the world to give
us now the answers:
There is no time delay weather by movement nor within a gravity field in the
sense, that two
clocks showing the same time in one place also show the same time on another
independently
on their different ways (velocities, field strenghts of potentials,
accelerations) they take to come
to this second place where they meet again.

Joe

"Der alte Hexenmeister" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
. uk...
Baez and his chronies have bull****ted long enough.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...ox/doppler.gif

Baez writes:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...x/twin_vase.ht
ml
(I hasten to add that there are some pitfalls for the unwary: see Section
6.3 of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler for the fine points.)


I'll add without haste: Baez is attempting a confidence trick and is a
lying
rogue.
Those are some pitfalls for the unwary.


Here is the real physics of the situation.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...on-paradox.JPG

Everything is symmetrical. Stella is the same age as Terry on return.
SR/GR is garbage, LET is garbage.

Get out of physics and mathematics, Baez, you are an incompetent fraud.

Der alte Hexenmeister.

Der alte Hexenmeister wrote:
I'll add without haste: Baez is attempting a confidence trick and is a
lying rogue.

Marry, sir, they have committed false report;
moreover, they have spoken untruths; secondarily,
they are slanders; sixth and lastly, they have
belied a lady; thirdly, they have verified unjust
things; and, to conclude, they are lying knaves.

-- Dogberry (Ado, V.i.2288-2292)

Was kann man sagen? Scheisse? oder Du bist der Beste? Vielleicht...

Marcel Luttgens

"Ben Rudiak-Gould" wrote in message
...
Der alte Hexenmeister wrote:
I'll add without haste: Baez is attempting a confidence trick and is a
lying rogue.

Marry, sir, they have committed false report;
moreover, they have spoken untruths; secondarily,
they are slanders; sixth and lastly, they have
belied a lady; thirdly, they have verified unjust
things; and, to conclude, they are lying knaves.

-- Dogberry (Ado, V.i.2288-2292)

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...ple_v_Baez.htm
Hexenmeister.