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Brian Gaff wrote: You don't think that the big guys will buy up the small ones to shut them down then? Brian That's a very paranoid thought, Mr. Gaff... in the perfect world of modern American capitalism such a thing would never occur to a multi-billion dollar company, any more than it would occur to a bank to start giving mortgage loans to people that they knew would probably never be able to repay them - realizing that if they ever started to go down the tubes, the government would bail them out. A profit is certainly not without honor in _this_ land. Let the taxpayer beware. :-D Pat |
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Martha Adams wrote: I can't guess what to expect, but I think I may not like it. I heard Musk about his work about two years ago, at which time, he seemed to believe what he was doing would completely upset the pricing applecart. Which I expect, will thereby provoke strong resistance from those whose money is there. $10K/lb to orbit: that is a lot of money and *somebody gets it*. Now comes Musk saying, $1K/lb to orbit and we'll be bringing it down. How do you think the $10K/lb people feel? Your new flying car, Ms. Adams: http://www.moller.com/ Next stop on our Tour Of Wonders, the terrifying Egress! P.T. Barnum :-D |
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and said wholesale company now has put in bid to buy UK Nuclear power
company. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "Brian Gaff" wrote in message om... Or over here, a company who sells wholesale gas, owns a company retailing gas. Said retailer says wholesale costs make the business uneconomic so they raise prices by 35 percent, and guess who the wholesalers are, and guess who made record profits last quarter. Hmm, something stinks in the business world. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "Pat Flannery" wrote in message dakotatelephone... Brian Gaff wrote: You don't think that the big guys will buy up the small ones to shut them down then? Brian That's a very paranoid thought, Mr. Gaff... in the perfect world of modern American capitalism such a thing would never occur to a multi-billion dollar company, any more than it would occur to a bank to start giving mortgage loans to people that they knew would probably never be able to repay them - realizing that if they ever started to go down the tubes, the government would bail them out. A profit is certainly not without honor in _this_ land. Let the taxpayer beware. :-D Pat |
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In sci.space.history Pat Flannery wrote:
Martha Adams wrote: I notice Musk says he's brought in a "large" investor. I don't like to hear that, for now Musk no longer entirely owns his company. Who are the new people and what's their track record? ?? That's interesting...Rutan's Scaled Composites got bought out by Northrop Grumman recently. Isn't NorthropGrumman the only "major" US defense contractor without a "serious" launch capability? One could see them investing in SpaceX as a further fleshing-out of their Scaled Composites purchase. rick jones -- firebug n, the idiot who tosses a lit cigarette out his car window these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... |
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On Aug 4, 1:41 pm, Rick Jones wrote:
In sci.space.history Pat Flannery wrote: Martha Adams wrote: I notice Musk says he's brought in a "large" investor. I don't like to hear that, for now Musk no longer entirely owns his company. Who are the new people and what's their track record? ?? That's interesting...Rutan's Scaled Composites got bought out by Northrop Grumman recently. Isn't NorthropGrumman the only "major" US defense contractor without a "serious" launch capability? One could see them investing in SpaceX as a further fleshing-out of their Scaled Composites purchase. Nobody does. LM and Boeing had to firewall their launch vehicle groups from the spacecraft group and now they are further separated to even say that they are not part of the same company. Having a "launch capability" within the same company doesn't have any advantages. |
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Rick Jones wrote: Isn't NorthropGrumman the only "major" US defense contractor without a "serious" launch capability? One could see them investing in SpaceX as a further fleshing-out of their Scaled Composites purchase. The speculation is that they will use the WhiteKnightTwo as a carrier for some sort of rocket booster to carry a modest-sized (around 500 pound) satellite into orbit. Scaled Composites makes the wing for the Pegasus launch vehicle, so maybe they have something along those lines in mind. Pat |
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Rick Jones wrote:
:In sci.space.history Pat Flannery wrote: : Martha Adams wrote: : : I notice Musk says he's brought in a "large" investor. I don't : like to hear that, for now Musk no longer entirely owns his : company. Who are the new people and what's their track record? : ?? : : That's interesting...Rutan's Scaled Composites got bought out by : Northrop Grumman recently. : :Isn't NorthropGrumman the only "major" US defense contractor without a :"serious" launch capability? One could see them investing in SpaceX :as a further fleshing-out of their Scaled Composites purchase. : Define 'major'. -- "Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute." -- Charles Pinckney |
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In sci.space.history Pat Flannery wrote:
Rick Jones wrote: Isn't NorthropGrumman the only "major" US defense contractor without a "serious" launch capability? One could see them investing in SpaceX as a further fleshing-out of their Scaled Composites purchase. The speculation is that they will use the WhiteKnightTwo as a carrier for some sort of rocket booster to carry a modest-sized (around 500 pound) satellite into orbit. Scaled Composites makes the wing for the Pegasus launch vehicle, so maybe they have something along those lines in mind. (A working) Falcon would give them some nice "scale-up" I suppose. rick jones -- oxymoron n, Hummer H2 with California Save Our Coasts and Oceans plates these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... |
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In sci.space.history Fred J. McCall wrote:
Rick Jones wrote: :Isn't NorthropGrumman the only "major" US defense contractor :without a "serious" launch capability? One could see them :investing in SpaceX as a further fleshing-out of their Scaled :Composites purchase. Define 'major'. Mostly, my being able to remember their name So, I think of Boeing and LockheedMartin, then perhaps NorthropGrumman and GeneralDynamics, but I'm not sure if GD is still "independent." EADS are certainly large, and I suppose there is BAE but I was figuring that their being "foreign" (US relative of course...) would present some non-trivial ITAR complications. -- The computing industry isn't as much a game of "Follow The Leader" as it is one of "Ring Around the Rosy" or perhaps "Duck Duck Goose." - Rick Jones these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... |
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