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Breakdown of funding for ISS by international partners
On Oct 21, 2:38*am, Space Cadet wrote:
Hello All I've tried to do a google search on it, maybe I'm not using the right search terms, but I would like to find a breakdown of how much of the ISS funding is shared by our International partners and US Tax payers. This may be hard because how do you proportion the costs. For example, the shuttle is used to transfer its astronauts and some supplies and equipment. So that cost can be approximated. The Russian side does the same. But how do you proportion services such as the food/water and spare parts resupplies from the Russian Progress module, the fuel supplies from the russian progress or even services such as the Soyuz emergency evacuation ship. This gets complicated by the Japanese and European resupply, who pays for there launches and how do you appropriate the costs of supplies given their use across the whole ISS. *Also related if for some reason after the last Shuttle flight, US/NASA decides not to further support ISS until we (re)develop our own way of sending personal to the station could Russia, ESA and the other international partners support the ISS on their own? Why not. There's enough supply capability to keep it going. The question isnt whether it could be done (it can) the question is would it. Given the state the US is in these days, if they could not launch astronauts to ISS (assuming they also would not pay Russia to send them) then they would most likely ban other countries using their spaces (the US adopts very much a yours & ours mentality on ISS). Now Russia could ignore this and do it anyway but then that brings up the other issue. The ISS is seen by Russia as a source of hard currency. If Russia wants a space station they can build it themselves and alot more functional than ISS but it would cost. So if someone is willing to open up a channel of funds to Russia then maybe they would keep ISS going, either by allowing third party countries access to the ISS or space tourism. There is already at least 2 european companies that want to turn it into a tourist spot if the US abandons it. One in particular has already done the legal work and reckons it can cut the US out (as long as the US technically abandons it). I'm hoping the US does abandon it, so that some Country can turn into a Pioneer Hotel of sorts, give people a real taste of space. |
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Breakdown of funding for ISS by international partners
On 10/30/2010 7:53 PM, Tulley wrote:
This may be hard because how do you proportion the costs. For example, the shuttle is used to transfer its astronauts and some supplies and equipment. So that cost can be approximated. The Russian side does the same. But how do you proportion services such as the food/water and spare parts resupplies from the Russian Progress module, the fuel supplies from the russian progress or even services such as the Soyuz emergency evacuation ship. This gets complicated by the Japanese and European resupply, who pays for there launches and how do you appropriate the costs of supplies given their use across the whole ISS. In addition, we never have gotten accurate figures on what a Russian Soyuz or Progress spacecraft and its booster cost to launch; just what they charge us or commercial customers - and there's bound to be a nice profit margin involved in that price. I'm hoping the US does abandon it, so that some Country can turn into a Pioneer Hotel of sorts, give people a real taste of space. Well, given all the trouble with the toilet, that will probably look like this: http://www.podsix.com/loot/zerogtoilet.jpg I'd be keen to know what the ISS smells like inside; Mir was supposed to smell like a moldy gymnasium shower room, and I imagine the ISS is no treat for the nose either. Pat |
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Breakdown of funding for ISS by international partners
Pat Flannery wrote:
Well, given all the trouble with the toilet, that will probably look like this: http://www.podsix.com/loot/zerogtoilet.jpg Does it also softly play a Strauss waltz in the background? ;-) Dave |
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Breakdown of funding for ISS by international partners
On Jan 24, 8:59*am, David Spain wrote:
Pat Flannery wrote: Well, given all the trouble with the toilet, that will probably look like this: http://www.podsix.com/loot/zerogtoilet.jpg Does it also softly play a Strauss waltz in the background? ;-) Dave I think the US should offer the ISS to its international partners if they dont want it or deorbit it. We cant afford any more federal boondogles.that produce no science and nasa now tells the taxpayer its job is operations not science They are cutting my social security future benefits because I an 54 in a few days. cuts will be to anyone less than 55. souurce meet the press sunday........ |
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Breakdown of funding for ISS by international partners
On Jan 24, 9:32*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote: On Jan 24, 8:59 am, David Spain wrote: Pat Flannery wrote: Well, given all the trouble with the toilet, that will probably look like this: http://www.podsix.com/loot/zerogtoilet.jpg Does it also softly play a Strauss waltz in the background? ;-) Dave I think the US should offer the ISS to its international partners if they dont want it or deorbit it. We cant afford any more federal boondogles.that produce no science and nasa now tells the taxpayer its job is operations not science They are cutting my social security future benefits because I an 54 in a few days. cuts will be to anyone less than 55. souurce meet the press sunday........ And, as usual, Bobbert has it wrong. *The Deficit Commission has *PROPOSED* such cuts. If Bobbert believes this is actually being enacted into law, he should CITE THE BILL CONTAINING IT. -- "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is *only stupid." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I know it hasnt passed YET, but its coming. The tea party ran on cuttinmg spending. and honestly I know its necessary. But with congress bought sand paid for by special interest |
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