Whats nasa plan for this?

The station has a major problem, its damaged somehow and the crew
returned to earth during a emergency condition.

so the station wasnt prepared in advance for unmanned operations.

exactly what would nasa do? espically if it couldnt be intentially
deorbited in the pacific........

On Aug 30, 8:31*pm, bob haller wrote:
The station has a major problem, its damaged somehow and the crew
returned to earth during a emergency condition.

so the station wasnt prepared in advance for unmanned operations.

exactly what would nasa do? espically if it couldnt be intentially
deorbited in the pacific........

apparently nasa has no plan for such a event. thats a chilling
thought. imagine our world littered with station modules coming down
randomly over the ground track..........

that has the potential to do lots of damage, imagine a impact in a
major city like new york plus it would likely fround most air
travel for awhile till all parts are out of orbit.....

ISS crashing on peoples heads might well start a war.

or take out a nuclear facility. like a nuke power plant.....

so is nasa prepared? a debris hit depressurizes the station the crew
manages to get into soyuz and back home safely......

but now the uncontrollable station threatens the entire ground track.
no doubt it would tumble and lose pieces for awhile, and depending on
the tumble may litter low earth orbit for awhile too..........

On Aug 30, 8:31*pm, bob haller wrote:
The station has a major problem, its damaged somehow and the crew
returned to earth during a emergency condition.

so the station wasnt prepared in advance for unmanned operations.

exactly what would nasa do? espically if it couldnt be intentially
deorbited in the pacific........

apparently nasa has no plan for such a event. thats a chilling
thought. imagine our world littered with station modules coming down
randomly over the ground track..........

that has the potential to do lots of damage, imagine a impact in a
major city like new york plus it would likely ground most air
travel for awhile till all parts are out of orbit.....


ISS crashing on peoples heads might well start a war.


or take out a nuclear facility. like a nuke power plant.....


so is nasa prepared? a debris hit depressurizes the station the crew
manages to get into soyuz and back home safely......


but now the uncontrollable station threatens the entire ground track.
no doubt it would tumble and lose pieces for awhile, and depending on
the tumble may litter low earth orbit for awhile too..........

"bob haller" skrev i meddelelsen
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apparently nasa has no plan for such a event. thats a chilling
thought. imagine our world littered with station modules coming down
randomly over the ground track..........

that has the potential to do lots of damage, imagine a impact in a
major city like new york plus it would likely fround most air
travel for awhile till all parts are out of orbit.....

ISS crashing on peoples heads might well start a war.

or take out a nuclear facility. like a nuke power plant.....

Pieces of Skylab lithobraked. It made headlines. So did pieces of
Columbia. If this happened to pieces of the ISS it would likewise make
headlines because it were pieces of the ISS doing it. The actual damage -
if a piece were to hit people or property - would at worst be comparable to
a bad traffic accident.
But cars move naturally near people and property. If I have an accident
in mine, chances are high that something else than my car is damaged too.
If a bit of the ISS crashes into the ground the chances of that are far
smaller. This is a very big world, and it seems crowded only because our
resource consumption take up a lot more area than we do personally.
Fearing an ISS crash is like fearing terrorism, or shark attacks.
Spectacular ways to die, touching our imaginations; but far more people,
even through no fault of their own, die in traffic.

Jon Lennart Beck.

On Aug 31, 8:18*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Aug 30, 8:31*pm, bob haller wrote:
The station has a major problem, its damaged somehow and the crew
returned to earth during a emergency condition.

so the station wasnt prepared in advance for unmanned operations.

exactly what would nasa do? espically if it couldnt be intentially
deorbited in the pacific........

apparently nasa has no plan for such a event. thats a chilling
thought. imagine our world littered with station modules coming down
randomly over the ground track..........

that has the potential to do lots of damage, imagine a impact in a
major city like new york *plus it would likely fround most air
travel for awhile till all parts are out of orbit.....

ISS crashing on peoples heads might well start a war.

or take out a nuclear facility. like a nuke power plant.....

so is nasa prepared? a debris hit depressurizes the station the crew
manages to get into soyuz and back home safely......

but now the uncontrollable station threatens the entire ground track.
no doubt it would tumble and lose pieces for awhile, and depending on
the tumble may litter low earth orbit for awhile too..........

AND THE MOON COULD FALL AND KILL US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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fred posts trash but never factually addressed the issue......

On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:31:17 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

The station has a major problem, its damaged somehow and the crew
returned to earth during a emergency condition.

so the station wasnt prepared in advance for unmanned operations.

exactly what would nasa do? espically if it couldnt be intentially
deorbited in the pacific........

Russia brought back Salyut 6 from the brink. Hard to see ISS being in
worse shape, given it has at least two independent control mechanisms
(US side and Russian side) and if a Progress is docked, a third
mechanism.

Brian

On 8/31/2011 6:32 AM, Raven wrote:

Pieces of Skylab lithobraked. It made headlines. So did pieces of
Columbia. If this happened to pieces of the ISS it would likewise make
headlines because it were pieces of the ISS doing it. The actual damage
- if a piece were to hit people or property - would at worst be
comparable to a bad traffic accident.

If they had to, they could wait till it was quite low and then dock a
Progress cargo ship to it, which could use its engines to bring the ISS
into the atmosphere over the ocean, like they did with Mir.


Pat

On 8/31/2011 2:22 PM, Brian Thorn wrote:

exactly what would nasa do? espically if it couldnt be intentially
deorbited in the pacific........

Russia brought back Salyut 6 from the brink.

That was Salyut 7 that had the problems and needed the repair mission;
Salyut 6 was a highly successful station.

Pat

On Aug 31, 11:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Aug 31, 8:18*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Aug 30, 8:31*pm, bob haller wrote:
The station has a major problem, its damaged somehow and the crew
returned to earth during a emergency condition.

so the station wasnt prepared in advance for unmanned operations.

exactly what would nasa do? espically if it couldnt be intentially
deorbited in the pacific........

apparently nasa has no plan for such a event. thats a chilling
thought. imagine our world littered with station modules coming down
randomly over the ground track..........

that has the potential to do lots of damage, imagine a impact in a
major city like new york *plus it would likely fround most air
travel for awhile till all parts are out of orbit.....

ISS crashing on peoples heads might well start a war.

or take out a nuclear facility. like a nuke power plant.....

so is nasa prepared? a debris hit depressurizes the station the crew
manages to get into soyuz and back home safely......

but now the uncontrollable station threatens the entire ground track.
no doubt it would tumble and lose pieces for awhile, and depending on
the tumble may litter low earth orbit for awhile too..........

AND THE MOON COULD FALL AND KILL US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fred posts trash but never factually addressed the issue......

I gave the issue all the 'addressing' it merited.

ISS doesn't float in orbit because it is full of air, you putz.

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If the grounding of Soyuz rockets forces crews to abandon the
International Space Station even temporarily, the chances of losing
the facility outright skyrocket the longer it goes unmanned, Florida
Today reports.


NASA International Space Station Program Manager Mike Suffred says
evacuation is a distinct possibility in mid-November if Russian Soyuz
rockets are not flying, writes Florida Today's Todd Halvorson.


Past NASA risk assessment shows a one in 10 chance of losing the
station within six months if there is no crew aboard to handle
critical system failures. That soars to a 50% proability if it remains
crewless for a year, the newspaper says.


The International Space Station has been continuously staffed since
the first expedition crew opened the outpost in November 2000.




In a worst-case scenario, station systems could fail, making it
impossible for engineers on the ground to maintain remote control of
the 1 million-pound outpost.

In that case, the station eventually would make an uncontrolled re-
entry, potentially showering flaming wreckage on populated areas, says
Florida Today, USA TODAY's sister publication.



The issue is acute as Russian experts try to figure out why a Soyuz
rocket failed last week, sending an unmanned Progress supply ship
crashing into Siberia.

Russia's Soyuz rocket is the only means of ferrying supplies and crew
to the station now that the U.S. space shuttle missions have ended.

Plans to send a fresh crew to the station Sept. 21 have been postponed
indefinitely, and the return of three crewmembers Sept. 8 has been
delayed for at least week.

Complicating the problem is the imminent "expiration date" for the two
Soyuz spacecraft docked with the station. They are not certified to
stay longer than 200 days in space.

By juggling schedules, a crew could remain onboard until late
December, although that would mean a landing during brutally cold
weather in Kazakhstan around Christmas.

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:18:43 -0800, Pat Flannery
wrote:

On 8/31/2011 2:22 PM, Brian Thorn wrote:

exactly what would nasa do? espically if it couldnt be intentially
deorbited in the pacific........

Russia brought back Salyut 6 from the brink.

That was Salyut 7 that had the problems and needed the repair mission;
Salyut 6 was a highly successful station.

Poor Salyut 6, always getting blamed for things its younger brother
did... :-)

Brian