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Old August 11th 04, 03:10 PM
Jim Oberg
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Relayed From: "Geert Sassen"
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:55 AM

They might have found some parts of the fifth Vostok test flight (Dec. 22,
1960) which made a suborbital flight due to failure of the 3rd stage.

See 'Challenge to Apollo'/Asif Siddiqi page 260 quote "the payload landed
about 3500 km downrange from the launch site in one of the most remote and
inaccessible areas of Siberia, in the region of the Podkamennaya Tunguska
River close to the impact point of the famed Tunguska meteorite".

As this area is more or less directly underneath the flightpath of Baykonour
launches, it can be expected that it is littered with rocket debris....



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Old August 11th 04, 03:55 PM
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The Evenki provincial home page is at
http://www.evenkya.ru/eng/ and it has a map
that shows the reported recovery zone around
Poligus is well within the circle around the
Dec 22, 1960 landing location (s) described by
Sven Grahn's account (link below).

Details of the rescue of the capsule's dogs, and the location
of the spacecraft landing (with MAP):
http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/histind/s...tml#bad%20luck



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Old August 11th 04, 06:24 PM
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Jim Oberg wrote:

As this area is more or less directly underneath the flightpath of Baykonour
launches, it can be expected that it is littered with rocket debris....


However "The Moscow News" reports it slightly differently:
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/08/10/tunguska.shtml

Pat

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Old August 11th 04, 11:53 PM
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"Jim Oberg" wrote in message
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Relayed From: "Geert Sassen"
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:55 AM

They might have found some parts of the fifth Vostok test flight (Dec. 22,
1960) which made a suborbital flight due to failure of the 3rd stage.

See 'Challenge to Apollo'/Asif Siddiqi page 260 quote "the payload landed
about 3500 km downrange from the launch site in one of the most remote and
inaccessible areas of Siberia, in the region of the Podkamennaya Tunguska
River close to the impact point of the famed Tunguska meteorite".


That explains it. In reality the fifth Vostok flight hit a temporal window
on its way up and when it re-appeared it was nearly 60 years previous!



As this area is more or less directly underneath the flightpath of

Baykonour
launches, it can be expected that it is littered with rocket debris....





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Old August 12th 04, 10:08 AM
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:53:23 GMT
"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote:

That explains it. In reality the fifth Vostok flight hit a temporal
window on its way up and when it re-appeared it was nearly 60 years
previous!


My first thought was of the Bruce Stirling story "Storming the cosmos" in which the recovered space craft component reflects its discoverers expectations. I imagine that this would explain its extreme ugliness.
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Old August 12th 04, 07:25 PM
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:

That explains it. In reality the fifth Vostok flight hit a temporal window
on its way up and when it re-appeared it was nearly 60 years previous!


Comrade! "Is about time, is about space, is about two dogs in the
strangest place...." :-)

Pat


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Old August 12th 04, 09:18 PM
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Pat Flannery wrote:

Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
That explains it. In reality the fifth Vostok flight hit a temporal window
on its way up and when it re-appeared it was nearly 60 years previous!


Comrade! "Is about time, is about space, is about two dogs in the
strangest place...." :-)


It's just a jump to the left...


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Old August 12th 04, 09:19 PM
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Comrade! "Is about time, is about space, is about two dogs in the

strangest place...." :-)


Wow, someone who remembers the IT'S ABOUT TIME sitcom (1966-1967).

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet...t/showid-6357/


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Old August 13th 04, 12:25 AM
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:

That explains it. In reality the fifth Vostok flight hit a temporal

window
on its way up and when it re-appeared it was nearly 60 years previous!


Comrade! "Is about time, is about space, is about two dogs in the
strangest place...." :-)


Keep your sex life out of this.



Pat




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Old August 13th 04, 01:54 AM
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 20:19:39 +0000, Algomeysa2 wrote:

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Comrade! "Is about time, is about space, is about two dogs in the

strangest place...." :-)


Wow, someone who remembers the IT'S ABOUT TIME sitcom (1966-1967).

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet...t/showid-6357/



I LOVED that show!


 




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