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Old July 20th 04, 09:05 PM
Paul Lawler
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"Yoda" wrote in message
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John Carruthers wrote:


Please try to accept the difference between
"a theory" which can be tested, and possibly proved wrong or, in time
accepted as true, until something better comes along,
and "fantasy", which while more entertaining over a limited time span
is rather puerile.

I already know why they did the experiment according to what reasons
they gave. I also intentional left out the 'who did it' on purpose. I
also have a very good idea what long term effects that foolhardy
experiment will produce. I wanted to see if there is anybody on this
newsgroup who has a clue? So far it doesn't look too good.


So now that you believe we are all clueless, why don't you enlighten us, o
great one?


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Old July 20th 04, 10:10 PM
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:53:48 GMT, Yoda
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wrote:

The tests were performed in 1958 to determine if artificial radiation belts
could be created.


That still doesn't answer my question, what science hoped to accomplish?


Are you unable to read as well?


Why create 'artificial belts' in the first place? If I wanted that
type of a lame answer, I would have merely read it online.


You didn't want an answer, having been shown up as a bufoon with
delusions of adequacy, you wanted to divert attention to the fact that
your ass is being whupped all over the place.



The tests were in fact a success;

The tests were a 'sucess'? Hardly. Wait til all mankind is dead, then
declare such insane science a 'success'.


Why don't you get God to do something abut it?. You claim he agrees
with you.

SNIP

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Old July 20th 04, 10:10 PM
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:53:48 GMT, Yoda
wrote:



wrote:

The tests were performed in 1958 to determine if artificial radiation belts
could be created.


That still doesn't answer my question, what science hoped to accomplish?


Are you unable to read as well?


Why create 'artificial belts' in the first place? If I wanted that
type of a lame answer, I would have merely read it online.


You didn't want an answer, having been shown up as a bufoon with
delusions of adequacy, you wanted to divert attention to the fact that
your ass is being whupped all over the place.



The tests were in fact a success;

The tests were a 'sucess'? Hardly. Wait til all mankind is dead, then
declare such insane science a 'success'.


Why don't you get God to do something abut it?. You claim he agrees
with you.

SNIP

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  #24  
Old July 20th 04, 10:12 PM
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:05:58 GMT, "Paul Lawler"
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"Yoda" wrote in message
news

John Carruthers wrote:


Please try to accept the difference between
"a theory" which can be tested, and possibly proved wrong or, in time
accepted as true, until something better comes along,
and "fantasy", which while more entertaining over a limited time span
is rather puerile.

I already know why they did the experiment according to what reasons
they gave. I also intentional left out the 'who did it' on purpose. I
also have a very good idea what long term effects that foolhardy
experiment will produce. I wanted to see if there is anybody on this
newsgroup who has a clue? So far it doesn't look too good.


So now that you believe we are all clueless, why don't you enlighten us, o
great one?


I'm still waiting for him to answer the question I posed on Cepheid
variables. My guess is he's just another blowhard, and apart from
general knowledge we will get no answers. Anytime anyone asks for
specifics, this loser just dodges.

Of course, he claims God agrees with him..........


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  #25  
Old July 20th 04, 10:12 PM
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:05:58 GMT, "Paul Lawler"
wrote:

"Yoda" wrote in message
news

John Carruthers wrote:


Please try to accept the difference between
"a theory" which can be tested, and possibly proved wrong or, in time
accepted as true, until something better comes along,
and "fantasy", which while more entertaining over a limited time span
is rather puerile.

I already know why they did the experiment according to what reasons
they gave. I also intentional left out the 'who did it' on purpose. I
also have a very good idea what long term effects that foolhardy
experiment will produce. I wanted to see if there is anybody on this
newsgroup who has a clue? So far it doesn't look too good.


So now that you believe we are all clueless, why don't you enlighten us, o
great one?


I'm still waiting for him to answer the question I posed on Cepheid
variables. My guess is he's just another blowhard, and apart from
general knowledge we will get no answers. Anytime anyone asks for
specifics, this loser just dodges.

Of course, he claims God agrees with him..........


--

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http://users.bigpond.net.au/wanglese/pebble.htm

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Old July 20th 04, 10:49 PM
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Wally Anglesea™ wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:05:58 GMT, "Paul Lawler"
wrote:


"Yoda" wrote in message
news
John Carruthers wrote:

Please try to accept the difference between
"a theory" which can be tested, and possibly proved wrong or, in time
accepted as true, until something better comes along,
and "fantasy", which while more entertaining over a limited time span
is rather puerile.


I already know why they did the experiment according to what reasons
they gave. I also intentional left out the 'who did it' on purpose. I
also have a very good idea what long term effects that foolhardy
experiment will produce. I wanted to see if there is anybody on this
newsgroup who has a clue? So far it doesn't look too good.


So now that you believe we are all clueless, why don't you enlighten us, o
great one?


So far all you dimwits did was laugh at the notion of nukes being
detonated in the Van Allen Belt region. For your information, the
damage done to the Van Allen Belts can't be repaired. Furthermore the
damage will result in the complete callapse of the protective shield,
allowing very damaging radiation to penetrate to surface of the earth,
and ultimately wipe out all life on earth. It is a very sad topic to
discuss, and only dumbass evil people would find such a subject
"amusing" or a cause/reason to insult someone.

All life as we know it is going into a fire, and I don't know about you
or anyone else for that matter, but I find this news to be extremely
sad. When I first heard of it, all I could do was weep for the human race.

So if you like to laugh at this...screw you.





I'm still waiting for him to answer the question I posed on Cepheid
variables. My guess is he's just another blowhard, and apart from
general knowledge we will get no answers. Anytime anyone asks for
specifics, this loser just dodges.

Of course, he claims God agrees with him..........



  #27  
Old July 20th 04, 10:49 PM
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Wally Anglesea™ wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:05:58 GMT, "Paul Lawler"
wrote:


"Yoda" wrote in message
news
John Carruthers wrote:

Please try to accept the difference between
"a theory" which can be tested, and possibly proved wrong or, in time
accepted as true, until something better comes along,
and "fantasy", which while more entertaining over a limited time span
is rather puerile.


I already know why they did the experiment according to what reasons
they gave. I also intentional left out the 'who did it' on purpose. I
also have a very good idea what long term effects that foolhardy
experiment will produce. I wanted to see if there is anybody on this
newsgroup who has a clue? So far it doesn't look too good.


So now that you believe we are all clueless, why don't you enlighten us, o
great one?


So far all you dimwits did was laugh at the notion of nukes being
detonated in the Van Allen Belt region. For your information, the
damage done to the Van Allen Belts can't be repaired. Furthermore the
damage will result in the complete callapse of the protective shield,
allowing very damaging radiation to penetrate to surface of the earth,
and ultimately wipe out all life on earth. It is a very sad topic to
discuss, and only dumbass evil people would find such a subject
"amusing" or a cause/reason to insult someone.

All life as we know it is going into a fire, and I don't know about you
or anyone else for that matter, but I find this news to be extremely
sad. When I first heard of it, all I could do was weep for the human race.

So if you like to laugh at this...screw you.





I'm still waiting for him to answer the question I posed on Cepheid
variables. My guess is he's just another blowhard, and apart from
general knowledge we will get no answers. Anytime anyone asks for
specifics, this loser just dodges.

Of course, he claims God agrees with him..........



  #28  
Old July 21st 04, 05:14 AM
Paul Lawler
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"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
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Wally Anglesea™ wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:05:58 GMT, "Paul Lawler"
wrote:
"Yoda" wrote in message


I already know why they did the experiment according to what reasons
they gave. I also intentional left out the 'who did it' on purpose. I
also have a very good idea what long term effects that foolhardy
experiment will produce. I wanted to see if there is anybody on this
newsgroup who has a clue? So far it doesn't look too good.

So now that you believe we are all clueless, why don't you enlighten us,

o
great one?


So far all you dimwits did was laugh at the notion of nukes being
detonated in the Van Allen Belt region. For your information, the
damage done to the Van Allen Belts can't be repaired. Furthermore the
damage will result in the complete callapse of the protective shield,
allowing very damaging radiation to penetrate to surface of the earth,
and ultimately wipe out all life on earth. It is a very sad topic to
discuss, and only dumbass evil people would find such a subject
"amusing" or a cause/reason to insult someone.

All life as we know it is going into a fire, and I don't know about you
or anyone else for that matter, but I find this news to be extremely
sad. When I first heard of it, all I could do was weep for the human

race.

Very sad indeed. (handing Yoda a hanky) *sniffle* I don't suppose you have
*whimper* any *sob* evidence for these claims?


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Old July 21st 04, 07:38 AM
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My apologies. I thought your inquiry was that of a rational and intelligent
person, not an agenda driven idiot of questionable intellect. Once again,
sorry. You might want to switch over to a newsgroup that is
astrology/environmental/wacko bent.


"Yoda" wrote in message
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wrote:

The tests were performed in 1958 to determine if artificial radiation

belts
could be created.


That still doesn't answer my question, what science hoped to accomplish?
Why create 'artificial belts' in the first place? If I wanted that
type of a lame answer, I would have merely read it online.

The tests were in fact a success;

The tests were a 'sucess'? Hardly. Wait til all mankind is dead, then
declare such insane science a 'success'.


three shots were
detonated at approximately 300 miles above the earth. The test was a
success. The theory was correct.


What theory? We need new Van Allen Belts? Like who the hell do these
'scientists' think they are, to mess around with earth's protective
layer? Scumbags is what they are.

Suggest you research Nicholas Cristofilos
of Lawrence Livermore Labs. Check out ARGUS project in 1958. These

tests
were followed in 1962(?) with the Starfish shots.


If I wanted a historical lesson, I would have asked.





"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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"Yoda" wrote in message
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Can someone please explain why atomic weapons were tested on the Van
Allen Belts, and what effects it had and what effects we will see in

the
future the overall results such actions will have for the long term
survival of the human race? Explain what that type of 'science' hoped
to accomplish? Serious replies only, please.

As I understand it, the weapons were not test ON the Van Allen belts,

but
were detonated in space to examine the theory of creating artificial Van
Allen belts. The idea was that if you created such a belt over the US
temporarily, maybe the radiation would cause all incoming ICBM's to be


fried

and fall harmlessly into the atmosphere. The tests failed. The theory

was
incorrect.

BV.








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Old July 21st 04, 07:44 AM
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The "damage" which you are ranting on about never happened. A slight
increase in the energy of the belts did occur but was disipated over a short
period of some 3 or 4 month's time. You claim that there is some permanent
damage from the 1958 tests - PROOF????? Please respond 'cause I've studied
the entire ARGUS history and aftermath, if you would care to use that term,
and have found nothing permanent.


"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
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Wally Anglesea™ wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:05:58 GMT, "Paul Lawler"
wrote:


"Yoda" wrote in message
news
John Carruthers wrote:

Please try to accept the difference between
"a theory" which can be tested, and possibly proved wrong or, in time
accepted as true, until something better comes along,
and "fantasy", which while more entertaining over a limited time span
is rather puerile.


I already know why they did the experiment according to what reasons
they gave. I also intentional left out the 'who did it' on purpose. I
also have a very good idea what long term effects that foolhardy
experiment will produce. I wanted to see if there is anybody on this
newsgroup who has a clue? So far it doesn't look too good.

So now that you believe we are all clueless, why don't you enlighten us,

o
great one?


So far all you dimwits did was laugh at the notion of nukes being
detonated in the Van Allen Belt region. For your information, the
damage done to the Van Allen Belts can't be repaired. Furthermore the
damage will result in the complete callapse of the protective shield,
allowing very damaging radiation to penetrate to surface of the earth,
and ultimately wipe out all life on earth. It is a very sad topic to
discuss, and only dumbass evil people would find such a subject
"amusing" or a cause/reason to insult someone.

All life as we know it is going into a fire, and I don't know about you
or anyone else for that matter, but I find this news to be extremely
sad. When I first heard of it, all I could do was weep for the human

race.

So if you like to laugh at this...screw you.





I'm still waiting for him to answer the question I posed on Cepheid
variables. My guess is he's just another blowhard, and apart from
general knowledge we will get no answers. Anytime anyone asks for
specifics, this loser just dodges.

Of course, he claims God agrees with him..........





 




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