Stars Very Sparse

On 10/04/2018 10:07 AM, Bast wrote:


wrote:
My info was from an earlier post, but I nelieve it was refering to a
typically higher density area.

This is confirmed by the fact, that it is often predicted, that there
will be essentially no actual star collisions when the Milky Way
merges with Andromeda.





I'm willing to bet there will be plenty of actual collisions.
I'm not sure who started that silliness that the two galaxies would just
pass through each other with no effect at all



There will be an 'effect' (gravitational), but the odds of stars
actually colliding are close to zero.

I'll give you an analogy - if the ocean contained 4 specs of sand, what
are the odds any of them will collide? I'd say zero.



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On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 3:54:42 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
On 10/04/2018 4:20 AM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 12:12:27 PM UTC-5 wrote:

We can get to the stars. Man has been wrong before and he is wrong about this.

Only possibility, is if we vastly exceed light speed
which is clearly absurd.

Or we got the speed of light wrong.

The universe would not be there if we could not get to it.

And just how does that follow ?

If you cannot see how that follows no amount of intelligence will suffice for you.


Again, consider that we are never visited by any
of the likely many other intelligent species.
If it was possible, don't you suppose one
would have figured it out by now ?

The extraterrestrials know that revealing themselves would be catastrophic to our evolution and would only generate fear.


So *all* ET's are essentially the same? Wow - big call. I call bs.

you are right + Whisper ebes ( you call Ets) are not the same tribes, all of them are different in some way, shape, size, body type and intelligence.





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Whisper wrote:
On 10/04/2018 10:07 AM, Bast wrote:


wrote:
My info was from an earlier post, but I nelieve it was refering to a
typically higher density area.

This is confirmed by the fact, that it is often predicted, that there
will be essentially no actual star collisions when the Milky Way
merges with Andromeda.





I'm willing to bet there will be plenty of actual collisions.
I'm not sure who started that silliness that the two galaxies would
just pass through each other with no effect at all



There will be an 'effect' (gravitational), but the odds of stars
actually colliding are close to zero.

I'll give you an analogy - if the ocean contained 4 specs of sand, what
are the odds any of them will collide? I'd say zero.





Well to start with, there are more than 4 stars in a galaxy.
And if Quantum physics has anything to do with it,.....every particle in
every star can be in several places at once, so it's far more likely that
two or more may happen to occupy the same space at the same time.
That is called a collision.

On 11/04/2018 7:57 PM, Bast wrote:


Whisper wrote:
On 10/04/2018 10:07 AM, Bast wrote:


wrote:
My info was from an earlier post, but I nelieve it was refering to a
typically higher density area.

This is confirmed by the fact, that it is often predicted, that there
will be essentially no actual star collisions when the Milky Way
merges with Andromeda.





I'm willing to bet there will be plenty of actual collisions.
I'm not sure who started that silliness that the two galaxies would
just pass through each other with no effect at all



There will be an 'effect' (gravitational), but the odds of stars
actually colliding are close to zero.

I'll give you an analogy - if the ocean contained 4 specs of sand, what
are the odds any of them will collide? I'd say zero.





Well to start with, there are more than 4 stars in a galaxy.



And galaxies are much bigger than oceans.




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YOU JUST DON'T GET IT DO YOU ? !

BASED OF THE SIZE AND POSITION AND DENSITY OF STARS, EVEN IN SOMETHING
LIKE THE CENTER OF HERCULESE M13, THERE WILL BE ESSENTIALLY NO ACTUAL
COLLISIONS OF ANYTHING WHEN MERGERS OCCUR ! THIS INCLUDES THE MERGER
OF THE MILKY WAY WITH ANDROMEDA.

STARS ARE EXTREEMLY SMALL COMPARED WITH SEPERATION DISTANCES. THE
ANALOGY POSTED HERE A WAY BAC, WHERE IF STARS WERE THE SIZE OF DIMES,
THEN THERE'D BE THOUSANDS OF MILES BETWEEN EACH. OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT
BUMPING INTO ONE ANOTHER.

ACCEPT IT. IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE.

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 2:04:03 PM UTC-5, casagi wrote:
YOU JUST DON'T GET IT DO YOU ? !

BASED OF THE SIZE AND POSITION AND DENSITY OF STARS, EVEN IN SOMETHING
LIKE THE CENTER OF HERCULESE M13, THERE WILL BE ESSENTIALLY NO ACTUAL
COLLISIONS OF ANYTHING WHEN MERGERS OCCUR ! THIS INCLUDES THE MERGER
OF THE MILKY WAY WITH ANDROMEDA.

STARS ARE EXTREEMLY SMALL COMPARED WITH SEPERATION DISTANCES. THE
ANALOGY POSTED HERE A WAY BAC, WHERE IF STARS WERE THE SIZE OF DIMES,
THEN THERE'D BE THOUSANDS OF MILES BETWEEN EACH. OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT
BUMPING INTO ONE ANOTHER.

ACCEPT IT. IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE.

No it's not true. Andromeda is not just a collection of stars it is also a whole. So is the Milky Way. Their individual gravities add up and function as one whole. The two galaxies will collide.

BASED OF THE SIZE AND POSITION AND DENSITY OF STARS, EVEN IN SOMETHING
LIKE THE CENTER OF HERCULESE M13, THERE WILL BE ESSENTIALLY NO ACTUAL
COLLISIONS OF ANYTHING WHEN MERGERS OCCUR ! THIS INCLUDES THE MERGER
OF THE MILKY WAY WITH ANDROMEDA.

STARS ARE EXTREEMLY SMALL COMPARED WITH SEPERATION DISTANCES. THE
ANALOGY POSTED HERE A WAY BAC, WHERE IF STARS WERE THE SIZE OF DIMES,
THEN THERE'D BE THOUSANDS OF MILES BETWEEN EACH. OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT
BUMPING INTO ONE ANOTHER.

ACCEPT IT. IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE.

No it's not true. Andromeda is not just a collection of stars it is also a whole. So is the Milky Way. Their individual gravities add up and function as one whole. The two galaxies will collide.

The character of these galaxies is that they are largely empty space.
Gravity is a relatively weak binding force which nevertheless keeps
things basically together.

It's really incorrect to call it a collision, since essentially
nothing's actually going to collide. Merger is a much better and more
accurate term.

Call it what you want, but the fact is that essentially nothing's
going to actually collide.

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 4:18:03 PM UTC-5, casagi.. wrote:

BASED OF THE SIZE AND POSITION AND DENSITY OF STARS, EVEN IN SOMETHING
LIKE THE CENTER OF HERCULESE M13, THERE WILL BE ESSENTIALLY NO ACTUAL
COLLISIONS OF ANYTHING WHEN MERGERS OCCUR ! THIS INCLUDES THE MERGER
OF THE MILKY WAY WITH ANDROMEDA.

STARS ARE EXTREEMLY SMALL COMPARED WITH SEPERATION DISTANCES. THE
ANALOGY POSTED HERE A WAY BAC, WHERE IF STARS WERE THE SIZE OF DIMES,
THEN THERE'D BE THOUSANDS OF MILES BETWEEN EACH. OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT
BUMPING INTO ONE ANOTHER.

ACCEPT IT. IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE.

No it's not true. Andromeda is not just a collection of stars it is also a whole. So is the Milky Way. Their individual gravities add up and function as one whole. The two galaxies will collide.

The character of these galaxies is that they are largely empty space.
Gravity is a relatively weak binding force which nevertheless keeps
things basically together.

It's really incorrect to call it a collision, since essentially
nothing's actually going to collide. Merger is a much better and more
accurate term.

Call it what you want, but the fact is that essentially nothing's
going to actually collide.

No that is wrong. You also fail to consider the newly discovered dark matter which ties each individual galaxy together. There is much to collide.

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 2:28:24 PM UTC-7, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 4:18:03 PM UTC-5, casagi.. wrote:

BASED OF THE SIZE AND POSITION AND DENSITY OF STARS, EVEN IN SOMETHING
LIKE THE CENTER OF HERCULESE M13, THERE WILL BE ESSENTIALLY NO ACTUAL
COLLISIONS OF ANYTHING WHEN MERGERS OCCUR ! THIS INCLUDES THE MERGER
OF THE MILKY WAY WITH ANDROMEDA.

STARS ARE EXTREEMLY SMALL COMPARED WITH SEPERATION DISTANCES. THE
ANALOGY POSTED HERE A WAY BAC, WHERE IF STARS WERE THE SIZE OF DIMES,
THEN THERE'D BE THOUSANDS OF MILES BETWEEN EACH. OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT
BUMPING INTO ONE ANOTHER.

ACCEPT IT. IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE.

No it's not true. Andromeda is not just a collection of stars it is also a whole. So is the Milky Way. Their individual gravities add up and function as one whole. The two galaxies will collide.

The character of these galaxies is that they are largely empty space.
Gravity is a relatively weak binding force which nevertheless keeps
things basically together.

It's really incorrect to call it a collision, since essentially
nothing's actually going to collide. Merger is a much better and more
accurate term.

Call it what you want, but the fact is that essentially nothing's
going to actually collide.

No that is wrong. You also fail to consider the newly discovered dark matter which ties each individual galaxy together. There is much to collide.

and what defines a galaxy? more than four stars?

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/abo...llide-beginner

There's speculation about dark matter interaction in a merger, but
galaxies are still extreemly sparse and held together with only
gravity, AND no STARS are likely to actually collide in a merger.

This was the point of my post.

Whatever the story about dark matter, we crtainly don't see any
impinging in our solar system.

More than 4 stars constitutes a galaxy. Roughly a 100 billion. Where
did I imply otherwise ?