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Can it be thought about Black holes?
Hello,
There seem to be some growing concerns about black holes. Btw, 1. Whether earth & our solar system is moving fast towards any black hole? If so,what can be its impact? 2. Can it be thought that currently also we & solar system are in some black hole and if Q1 above is true, we may just be shifting to another black hole? If yes, what its impact can be thought? Best wishes. |
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Can it be thought about Black holes?
On Mar 17, 7:10*am, Kumar wrote:
Hello, There seem to be some growing concerns about black holes. Btw, 1. Whether earth & our solar system is moving fast towards any black hole? If so,what can be its impact? 2. Can it be thought that currently also we & solar system are in some black hole and if Q1 above is true, we may just be shifting to another black hole? If yes, what its impact can be thought? Best wishes. thing is, before we ever got sucked into a black hole we'd be shredded into a thing strem of molecules by the tidal forces. |
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Can it be thought about Black holes?
Kumar wrote:
Hello, There seem to be some growing concerns about black holes. Btw, 1. Whether earth & our solar system is moving fast towards any black hole? If so,what can be its impact? 2. Can it be thought that currently also we & solar system are in some black hole and if Q1 above is true, we may just be shifting to another black hole? If yes, what its impact can be thought? Does it matter? It won't hurt. Much -- Paul - xxx '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch' '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed' Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough' |
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Can it be thought about Black holes?
"Kumar" wrote in message ... | Hello, | | There seem to be some growing concerns about black holes. Not half as much growing concern as there is about bright green flying elephants. |
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, Kumar writes Hello, There seem to be some growing concerns about black holes. Btw, 1. Whether earth & our solar system is moving fast towards any black hole? If so,what can be its impact? 2. Can it be thought that currently also we & solar system are in some black hole and if Q1 above is true, we may just be shifting to another black hole? If yes, what its impact can be thought? There's always a possibility someone messing about might make one by accident . http://www.exitmundi.nl/blackholes_lab.htm Brian -- Brian Howie |
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Can it be thought about Black holes?
On Mar 18, 8:24 am, Sam Wormley wrote:
Brian Howie wrote: There's always a possibility someone messing about might make one by accident . Accident or on purpose... One puts energy into creating it... one gets the same energy out as it explodes. What are you saying, Sam? Are you saying that 'amassing' a whole bunch of matter in one place requires an input of energy? So if I have X number of pieces of planets and suns and they are scattered all around, and then I allow them to attract each other to one place, they now have more energy? And this is the energy given off to propel them away when, as you say, it explodes? Explain that gravitationally, please. John |
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Can it be thought about Black holes?
On Mar 18, 9:18 am, Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote: On Mar 18, 8:24 am, Sam Wormley wrote: Brian Howie wrote: There's always a possibility someone messing about might make one by accident . Accident or on purpose... One puts energy into creating it... one gets the same energy out as it explodes. What are you saying, Sam? Are you saying that 'amassing' a whole bunch of matter in one place requires an input of energy? So if I have X number of pieces of planets and suns and they are scattered all around, and then I allow them to attract each other to one place, they now have more energy? And this is the energy given off to propel them away when, as you say, it explodes? Explain that gravitationally, please. John Plausible mechanisms for black hole creation are o big bang (not observed) o stellar collapse o neutron star mergers o creation in particle accelerators and cosmic cosmic rays Gravitation is not necessarily a player in the latter. Unless there were primordial black holes created in the very early universe, the mechanisms for creation of black holes are likely to be Well, first of all, let me state that I completely scoff at the idea of gravity-induced collapse of atoms in matter, which is where the original black hoile idea came from- but the galactic nuclei we are pointing to as examples of black holes aren't black holes. Yes, matter falls into them, but it gets stripped to individual charges and expelled out the jets. The galactic nucleus has such intense spin that all the space has been energized into matter and flung into orbit, and whenever the charges recombine into neutrons again, they fall back in and are stripped apart again. John Galaxy Model for the Atom http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/IWIN1.GIF |
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Can it be thought about Black holes?
On Mar 17, 3:39*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
z wrote: On Mar 17, 7:10 am, Kumar wrote: Hello, There seem to be some growing concerns about black holes. Btw, 1. Whether earth & our solar system is moving fast towards any black hole? If so,what can be its impact? 2. Can it be thought that currently also we & solar system are in some black hole and if Q1 above is true, we may just be shifting to another black hole? If yes, what its impact can be thought? Best wishes. thing is, before we ever got sucked into a black hole we'd be shredded into a thing strem of molecules by the tidal forces. * *Not necessarily so.... * *"The strength of the tidal force depends on how gravitational attraction * *changes with distance, rather than on the absolute force being felt.. This * *means that small black holes cause spaghettification while infalling objects * *are still outside their event horizons, whereas objects falling into large, * *supermassive black holes may not be deformed or otherwise feel excessively * *large forces before passing the event horizon".- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - good point. |
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"z" wrote in message
... Sam Wormley wrote: z wrote: Kumar wrote: There seem to be some growing concerns about black holes. Btw, 1. Whether earth & our solar system is moving fast towards any black hole? If so,what can be its impact? 2. Can it be thought that currently also we & solar system are in some black hole and if Q1 above is true, we may just be shifting to another black hole? If yes, what its impact can be thought? z wrote thing is, before we ever got sucked into a black hole we'd be shredded into a thing strem of molecules by the tidal forces. Sam Wormley wrote: Not necessarily so.... "The strength of the tidal force depends on how gravitational attraction changes with distance, rather than on the absolute force being felt. This means that small black holes cause spaghettification while infalling objects are still outside their event horizons, whereas objects falling into large, supermassive black holes may not be deformed or otherwise feel excessively large forces before passing the event horizon" "z" wrote good point. hanson wrote: Now look at the ultimate, massive, large sized black hole. Run the numbers for that black hole with the estimated values of the observable universe and you will find out, as you empirically experience, that you will not fall into nor towards any event horizon... because we do exist INSIDE the Black hole... ahahaha... No ****. Run the numbers. IIRC we, each one of us, wherever we are, do exist exactly at the point of this cosmic singularity.... But all these profound pontifications about cosmology are great as long as you also know how to earn $4 to buy yourself a cup of coffee.... ahahaha... Thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahahanson |
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Can it be thought about Black holes?
On Mar 17, 8:06*pm, z wrote:
On Mar 17, 7:10*am, Kumar wrote: Hello, There seem to be some growing concerns about black holes. Btw, 1. Whether earth & our solar system is moving fast towards any black hole? If so,what can be its impact? 2. Can it be thought that currently also we & solar system are in some black hole and if Q1 above is true, we may just be shifting to another black hole? If yes, what its impact can be thought? Best wishes. thing is, before we ever got sucked into a black hole we'd be shredded into a thing strem of molecules by the tidal forces. Thanks all. If we forget light from Sun & Stars (along with reflective and burning lights), probably, we/universe may just be having dark surroundings. Can't it be alinke for example, many tables in a big resurant with candle lights on each table? Where candle light don't reach, can just be black hole? |
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