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SR time dilation on remote objects ?
SR time dilation on remote objects ?
Question: Can time be "SR dilated" on remote galaxies or supernovae, because of space expansion? Details are given hereafter, as well as the refusal by the moderator to post my question in sci.physics.research Marcel Luttgens _______ Date : 04/07/04 15:18 To : "Urs Schreiber" Object : SR Time dilation on supernovae ? Dear Urs Schreiber, I am not "saying that contemporary cosmology and GR are fundamentally wrong", I prove it. Why don't you allow experts to disprove my demonstration? Science doesn't deserves censorship. I am confident that you wouldn't mind if I posted your present refusal on another, not "moderated" newsgroup. Am I too optimistic? If you don't answer, I'll conclude that you agree. Marcel Luttgens Date: 04/07/04 14:33 From : "Urs Schreiber" To : "Marcel Luttgens" Objet : SR Time dilation on supernovae ? I am sorry, but saying that contemporary cosmology and GR are fundamentally wrong is overly speculative and not appropriate for s.p.r. Sincerely, Urs Schreiber, moderator, s.p.r. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcel Luttgens" Newsgroups: sci.physics.research To: Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 2:29 PM Subject: SR Time dilation on supernovae ? Excerpt from: High Redshift Supernovae from the IfA Deep Survey: Doubling the SN Sample at z 0 . 7 (arXiv: astro- ph/ 0310843 v1 29 Oct 2003) Brian J. Barris, John L. Tonry, Stephane Blondin, Peter Challis, Ryan Chornock, Alejandro Clocchiatti, Alexei V. Filippenko, Peter Garnavich, Stephen T. Holland, Saurabh Jha, Robert P. Kirshner, Kevin Krisciunas, Bruno Leibundgut, Weidong Li, Thomas Matheson, Gajus Miknaitis, Adam G. Riess, Brian P. Schmidt, R. Chris Smith, Jesper Sollerman, Jason Spyromilio, Christopher W. Stubbs, Nicholas B. Suntzeff, Herve Aussel, K. C. Chambers, M. S. Connelley, D. Donovan, J. Patrick Henry, Nick Kaiser, Michael C. Liu, Eduardo L. Martin, and Richard J. Wainscoat Excerpt (p.12): "Typically, the discovery epoch of a high-z supernova is a few days before maximum brightness, and although the time dilation factor of (1 + z) works to lessen the delay in the rest frame, etc...". As no time dilation factor can be due to space recession (cf. the "Triplets tought experiment" below), the contemporary cosmologists are fundamentally wrong. One can thus wonder about the degree of confidence that can be given to their interpretation of the supernovae observations, especially with regard to the acceleration of the assumed expansion and the correlatively hypothesized dark energy. The validity of GR formulae is also questionable, because GR expresses the red shift of distant sources in terms of special relativity (the "relativistic Doppler" formula). The "Triplets" thought experiment (Cf. the "Twin paradox") _________________________________ Terence sits at home on Earth. Galaxy (yes, it's her name) flies off in a space ship at a velocity v/2. Simultaneously, Terra (also a name) flies off in the opposite direction at -v/2. After a while, Terra, a SR adept who considers that Galaxy flies away from her at a velocity v, claims that Galaxy is now younger than her, exactly like the GRists claim that time goes slower on SN because of space expansion. According to Terence, both Terra and the GRists are wrong, because Terra's clock and Galaxy's clock tick at the same rate. Question: ________ Can time be "SR dilated" on supernovae, because of space expansion? Thanks, Marcel Luttgens |
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