Importing Techno-Bigotry or Exporting Advanced R&D?

Subject: Baker giving HFGW propulsion to China
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 10:37:15 -0700

On May 1, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Dr. Eric Davis wrote:

Jack - FYI:

Bob Baker is only collaborating with Chinese universities because
DARPA program managers twice rejected his proposals.

.......(continued)....

My speciulation is that the HFGW research he proposed did not
fit the program and funding portfolios of the DARPA departments.
NASA no longer has an advanced concepts or propulsion program
since its adaptation of the "heritage technologies" paradigm.

(Note: HFGW stands for "High Frequency Gravity Wave"
DARPA stands for "Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency")

What's that?

Earlier this year NASA announced that it will replace the Space
Shuttle with a Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV) that is based on the
Apollo command module and return capsule design but upgraded with
21st century tech. The launch vehicle for the CEV is to be based
on the Space Shuttle solid rocket booster (which has 4 solid fuel
segments) but modified to be a single 5-segment solid fuel first
stage augmented by a LH2/LOX upper stage or maybe liquid fuel
booster rockets.

So it's back to the future for both the Apollo spacecraft and Space
Shuttle heritage technologies. There will be no using alternative
liquid fuels, no nuclear rocket engines, and no other form of
advanced propulsion outside of nuclear concepts. And certainly there
will be no spaceplane type of crew vehicle.

The NIAC only has limited funding for short-term and long-term
studies with little hardware development. The AFOSR also has backed
away from advanced physics funding since 2004 since the pressure is
on for them to support R&D for the war in Iraq. The NSF won't fund
Baker because he is not at a university, and their peer review
panels are all manned by low frequency gravity wave adherents.

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MY NOTE: This may be the reason why private research has to be done
quietly, ...very quietly... or a new Constitutional Convention has to
be formed loudly......very loudly!

And now we can see the influence of international politics for what
it is - manipulating away the most precious attempts to institute a
most revolutionary form of transportation, because of a greater
"willingness" on the part of the Chinese to fund such R&D. This
represents invalida-tion of American ingenuity at its finest. This
is what the big oil PACS crave! Invalidation! Subjugation! Who is
paying off higher education,military, and lobbyists to "deep throat"
advanced propulsion R&D? Isn'tit ultimately the same pass-the-blame
PACS who are responsible for the rise in gas prices - the traitors
of independence?

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(continuing original thread...)

..... low frequency gravity wave adherents.

You mean Kip Thorne at Cal Tech primarily and his MIT associates.

Plus the other peer reviewers at other universities that NSF draws on.

The Chinese were the only ones to cough up several years of funding
(in the millions of dollars), lab facilities, ultra-high intensity
lasers, lots of grad students and postdocs, and the cooperation of
several top flight general relativity experts there. The U.S.
general relativity community is stuck in the LIGO and LISA paradigms
with billions of dollars committed for low frequency gravity waves
and no interest to do anything else.

************************************************
Note: LIGO stands for "Laser Interferometer Gravity-Wave Observatory"
and
LISA stands for "Laser Interferometer Space Antenna"

.....end of thread analysis

American wrote:
Subject: Baker giving HFGW propulsion to China
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 10:37:15 -0700

On May 1, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Dr. Eric Davis wrote:

Jack - FYI:

Bob Baker is only collaborating with Chinese universities because
DARPA program managers twice rejected his proposals.

......(continued)....

My speciulation is that the HFGW research he proposed did not
fit the program and funding portfolios of the DARPA departments.
NASA no longer has an advanced concepts or propulsion program
since its adaptation of the "heritage technologies" paradigm.

(Note: HFGW stands for "High Frequency Gravity Wave"
DARPA stands for "Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency")

What's that?

Earlier this year NASA announced that it will replace the Space
Shuttle with a Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV) that is based on the
Apollo command module and return capsule design but upgraded with
21st century tech. The launch vehicle for the CEV is to be based
on the Space Shuttle solid rocket booster (which has 4 solid fuel
segments) but modified to be a single 5-segment solid fuel first
stage augmented by a LH2/LOX upper stage or maybe liquid fuel
booster rockets.

So it's back to the future for both the Apollo spacecraft and Space
Shuttle heritage technologies. There will be no using alternative
liquid fuels, no nuclear rocket engines, and no other form of
advanced propulsion outside of nuclear concepts. And certainly there
will be no spaceplane type of crew vehicle.

The NIAC only has limited funding for short-term and long-term
studies with little hardware development. The AFOSR also has backed
away from advanced physics funding since 2004 since the pressure is
on for them to support R&D for the war in Iraq. The NSF won't fund
Baker because he is not at a university, and their peer review
panels are all manned by low frequency gravity wave adherents.

************************************************

MY NOTE: This may be the reason why private research has to be done
quietly, ...very quietly... or a new Constitutional Convention has to
be formed loudly......very loudly!

And now we can see the influence of international politics for what
it is - manipulating away the most precious attempts to institute a
most revolutionary form of transportation, because of a greater
"willingness" on the part of the Chinese to fund such R&D. This
represents invalida-tion of American ingenuity at its finest. This
is what the big oil PACS crave! Invalidation! Subjugation! Who is
paying off higher education,military, and lobbyists to "deep throat"
advanced propulsion R&D? Isn'tit ultimately the same pass-the-blame
PACS who are responsible for the rise in gas prices - the traitors
of independence?

************************************************
(continuing original thread...)

.... low frequency gravity wave adherents.

You mean Kip Thorne at Cal Tech primarily and his MIT associates.

Plus the other peer reviewers at other universities that NSF draws on.

The Chinese were the only ones to cough up several years of funding
(in the millions of dollars), lab facilities, ultra-high intensity
lasers, lots of grad students and postdocs, and the cooperation of
several top flight general relativity experts there. The U.S.
general relativity community is stuck in the LIGO and LISA paradigms
with billions of dollars committed for low frequency gravity waves
and no interest to do anything else.

************************************************
Note: LIGO stands for "Laser Interferometer Gravity-Wave Observatory"
and
LISA stands for "Laser Interferometer Space Antenna"

....end of thread analysis

Since existing space law does not allow for sovereignty or
ownership in outer space, there is the difficulty of main-
taining the interest and investment of governments and
private individuals on Earth that have the necessary re-
sources and technology where there is no guarantee of a
stable legal environment. This failure of space law to pro-
vide any form of legal security for investments and ven-
tures in space remains a strong inhibitor in commercial
space development. Recognition and reward needs to be fo-
cused on scientific ingenuity, albeit for the United States,
science fiction creates the initial interest in this type
of technology by becoming science faction, creating a spirit
of sensationalism rather than scientific curiosity. Not
only because of the laziness of U.S. industries to develop
space-based R&D economies, but for reasons of cheap labor
and human rights waivers, the last vestige of yankee ingenu-
ity might even be given over to the reprobate foundation ec-
onomies of third world countries (that also happen to have
greater reaching power in the math and sciences by virtue
of their socio-emotional need to survive the capitalist de-
privation syndrome, i.e., all one has to do is look around
places like the slums of third world countries to notice it,
but even they are smart enough to figure out where the true
progress lies). Capitalism in the sense of true adventure
needs to be redefined as being outside the Media Empire to
keep national entrepreneurs from looking for flag-of-conven-
ience countries as bases for commercial space
exploitation activities.

But how does an investor or group of investors funnel their
investment capital back into the required technology and sup-
port industries that would allow (an ultimately cheaper) R&D
to subvert and overtake the expensive shuttle industry? By
examining three types of R&D (emerging technologies on one
end, current mainstay in the center and mature technologies
on the other end ) one can easily visualize the ability of
large corporations and companies to cover the spectrum on all
three types of R&D. However, for the lone entrepreneur,
where is the mainstay for more pure innovation, rather than
just streamlining for greater and more efficient production?
Has the mainstay become simply a tool for increasing the
value of a company to stockholders? Or is there a refined
usiness model that makes a great deal more sense with a new
constitutional convention? Does it lie in the dreamland of a
perfect world where innovation is as easy as avoiding interest
rate regulation, tort law, EPA regulations, and UN Outer
Space Treaty? Has the U.S. become a land owned principly by
wealthy money changers and satraps?

Cheaper earth-to-orbit technology is the enabler of the indus-
trialization of space through the various support industries
of cheaper shuttle, autoclave, modular transport, and freighter
design for asteroid mining - projects that could eventually
dwarf the precious metal potential of the Federal Reserve Banks.
Its no wonder the Strategic Launch Initiative has been such a
boondoggle to space activists of the National Space Society,
Space Freedom Foundation, Space Access Society, ProSpace, and
the House Space Subcommittee. There needs to be a new
Constitutional Convention on this issue!

Since existing space law does not allow for sovereignty or
ownership in outer space, there is the difficulty of main-
taining the interest and investment of governments and
private individuals on Earth that have the necessary re-
sources and technology where there is no guarantee of a
stable legal environment. This failure of space law to pro-
vide any form of legal security for investments and ven-
tures in space remains a strong inhibitor in commercial
space development. Recognition and reward needs to be fo-
cused on scientific ingenuity, albeit for the United States,
science fiction creates the initial interest in this type
of technology by becoming science faction, creating a spirit
of sensationalism rather than scientific curiosity. Not
only because of the laziness of U.S. industries to develop
space-based R&D economies, but for reasons of cheap labor
and human rights waivers, the last vestige of yankee ingenu-
ity might even be given over to the reprobate foundation ec-
onomies of third world countries (that also happen to have
greater reaching power in the math and sciences by virtue
of their socio-emotional need to survive the capitalist de-
privation syndrome, i.e., all one has to do is look around
places like the slums of third world countries to notice it,
but even they are smart enough to figure out where the true
progress lies). Capitalism in the sense of true adventure
needs to be redefined as being outside the Media Empire to
keep national entrepreneurs from looking for flag-of-conven-
ience countries as bases for commercial space
exploitation activities.

But how does an investor or group of investors funnel their
investment capital back into the required technology and sup-
port industries that would allow (an ultimately cheaper) R&D
to subvert and overtake the expensive shuttle industry? By
examining three types of R&D (emerging technologies on one
end, current mainstay in the center and mature technologies
on the other end ) one can easily visualize the ability of
large corporations and companies to cover the spectrum on all
three types of R&D. However, for the lone entrepreneur,
where is the mainstay for more pure innovation, rather than
just streamlining for greater and more efficient production?
Has the mainstay become simply a tool for increasing the
value of a company to stockholders? Or is there a refined
business model that makes a great deal more sense with a new
constitutional convention? Does it lie in the dreamland of a
perfect world where innovation is as easy as avoiding interest
rate regulation, tort law, EPA regulations, and UN Outer
Space Treaty? Has the U.S. become a land owned principly by
wealthy money changers and satraps?

Cheaper earth-to-orbit technology is the enabler of the indus-
trialization of space through the various support industries
of cheaper shuttle, autoclave, modular transport, and freighter
design for asteroid mining - projects that could eventually
dwarf the precious metal potential of the Federal Reserve Banks.
Its no wonder the Strategic Launch Initiative has been such a
boondoggle to space activists of the National Space Society,
Space Freedom Foundation, Space Access Society, ProSpace, and
the House Space Subcommittee. There needs to be a new
Constitutional Convention on this issue!

from alt.prophesies.nostradamos:

There was positive news (search Yahoo, click on "News" for:
'Microsoft R&D hire 5000') about Microsoft hiring 5000 workers
for research and development;

Rumours abound (for the last three years, anyway) that Gates
has been paying employees ungodly sums to 'experiment' on their
children... Gates' belief in a mind/computer interface as being
'the next step in computer/software/human evolution' has all
but consumed him. He'll be the next Howard Hughes.

************************************************** ***************

Howard Hughes wasn't a "learner" so much as he was a "doer"!
These are the kind of people we need in business today -
more self-absorbed egobrainiacs to punch holes in our current
bureaucratic deprivation syndrome. It was John Dewey who es-
poused the "learn-by-doing" philosophy of the socialists, but
the "do it right the first time, make mistakes, and learn from
your mistakes" entrepreneur, who was a byproduct of the expand-
ing industry of people like Hughes, found himself being increas-
ingly suffocated by attorney-client privilege of the upper-
class, tort law thru conflict of interest, and military-indus-
trial espionage. The national mourning continues to this day!
Yet Americans continue to idolize this great statue-of-a-man as
if the world is unable to produce people like this anymore!

Bullcrap! Create the condition for this kind of progress, and
maybe people like Bill Gates can "Do their own thing!" Prop up
the scientifically minded intuitives with more defense attorneys,
"stetsoned" investors, and then "damn the torpedos"! There's a
bigger, better ship on the way! Let there be no Titanics here!
This is the last, greatest industrial revolution the world has
ever seen!

from alt.prophesies.nostradamos:

There was positive news (search Yahoo, click on "News" for:
'Microsoft R&D hire 5000') about Microsoft hiring 5000 workers
for research and development;

Rumours abound (for the last three years, anyway) that Gates
has been paying employees ungodly sums to 'experiment' on their
children... Gates' belief in a mind/computer interface as being
'the next step in computer/software/human evolution' has all
but consumed him. He'll be the next Howard Hughes.

Howard Hughes wasn't a "learner" so much as he was a "doer"!
These are the kind of people we need in business today -
more self-absorbed ego-brainiacs to punch holes in our current
bureaucratic deprivation syndrome. It was John Dewey who es-
poused the "learn-by-doing" philosophy of the socialists, but
the "do it right the first time, make mistakes, and learn from
your mistakes" entrepreneur, who was a byproduct of the expand-
ing industry of people like Hughes, found himself being increas-
ingly suffocated by attorney-client privilege of the upper-
class, tort law thru conflict of interest, and military-indus-
trial espionage. The national mourning continues to this day!
Yet Americans continue to idolize this great statue-of-a-man as
if the world is unable to produce people like this anymore!

Bullcrap! Create the condition for this kind of progress, and
maybe people like Bill Gates can "Do their own thing!" Prop up
the scientifically minded intuitives with more defense attorneys,
"stetsoned" investors, and then "damn the torpedos"! There's a
bigger, better ship on the way! Let there be no Titanics here!
This is the last, greatest industrial revolution the world has
ever seen!

from alt.prophesies.nostradamos:

There was positive news (search Yahoo, click on "News" for:
'Microsoft R&D hire 5000') about Microsoft hiring 5000 workers
for research and development;

Rumours abound (for the last three years, anyway) that Gates
has been paying employees ungodly sums to 'experiment' on their
children... Gates' belief in a mind/computer interface as being
'the next step in computer/software/human evolution' has all
but consumed him. He'll be the next Howard Hughes.

************************************************** *****************

Howard Hughes wasn't a "learner" so much as he was a "doer"!
These are the kind of people we need in business today -
more self-absorbed ego-brainiacs to punch holes in our current
bureaucratic deprivation syndrome. It was John Dewey who es-
poused the "learn-by-doing" philosophy of the socialists, but
the "do it right the first time, make mistakes, and learn from
your mistakes" entrepreneur, who was a byproduct of the expand-
ing industry of people like Hughes, found himself being increas-
ingly suffocated by attorney-client privilege of the upper-
class, tort law thru conflict of interest, and military-indus-
trial espionage. The national mourning continues to this day!
Yet Americans continue to idolize this great statue-of-a-man as
if the world is unable to produce people like this anymore!

Bullcrap! Create the condition for this kind of progress, and
maybe people like Bill Gates can "Do their own thing!" Prop up
the scientifically minded intuitives with more defense attorneys,
"stetsoned" investors, and then "damn the torpedos"! There's a
bigger, better ship on the way! Let there be no Titanics here!
This is the last, greatest industrial revolution the world has
ever seen!