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Kislyakov (Novosti): Bleak outlook for Russian-U.S. space cooperation
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Rand Simberg wrote: I didn't say that we declared war on them. Nonetheless, they've been making war on us since 1979. How? It's not a friendly relationship, but I wouldn't call it "war". You don't think taking over an embassy and taking the diplomats hostage is an act of war? It's at least borderline... but it was also over 25 years ago, under leaders now dead and gone. It's not as if such things have been happening once a month. The US decided, then, that it was not worth going to war over. At most, the only reasonable complaint now is that Iran has never apologized for it. You don't think supplying arms and training to people killing your soldiers is an act of war? No, actually, or the US and the USSR would have gone to war dozens of times in the second half of the 20th century -- for example, over the arming and training of the Afghan resistance. There are precedents going back much farther, e.g. to WW1 and WW2. It's not exactly a friendly act, no, but the people actually shooting at you are the ones who may be at war with you (if they represent a nation, or a would-be nation, rather than just a bandit gang). -- spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | |
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Rand Simberg wrote: Because George Bush wouldn't be president. And we would have lost the ****ing war(s). Assuming your talking about WW II, I think the fact that the Japanese had attacked us at Pearl Harbor wasn't exactly classified. The German spies we captured in America were given trials at which the evidence against them for espionage was presented. Today I heard on the news that they had originally intended to present evidence tomorrow on the Iranian connection to the insurgency in Iraq...but now that's been canceled as revealing that evidence would compromise ongoing efforts to gather intelligence on the Iran/Iraq connection... so it may be a while before they can present that evidence, just as I predicted. Pat |
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