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Light speed invariance proof is circular!
Kenseto pointed out (on another thread) re the alleged invariance of
light speed: This is a postulate....never been proven. The speed of light is a defined constant. To do that physicists define the length of a meter as 1/299,792,458 light-second. As you can see with this definition of a meter length the speed of light is always 299,792,458 meters/ second. This is a circular definition....the speed of light is defined by the speed of light!!!!! A new theory of relativity called IRT is invented. IRT resolvces all the paradoxes encountered by SR due to the circular definition for the speed of light. A paper on IRT is available in the following link: http://www.modelmechanics,org/2011irt.dtg.pdf Of course, why did I not see this myself??!! Now the whole metric system is diddled to prop up this fershlugginer bunch of Satanic lies!!!! But there's a way out! YES INDEEDY. You see, they might have redefined the meter according to the "invariant" speed of light, but we can get back at the Beast worshippers by making sure we never use the metric system, invented by those cheese-eating surrender monkeys the French. We can use the good ole US OF A feet and miles system. THAT will put a stop to that little gallop, my oath it will, yes indeedy. So repeat after me: I wanna be wid Jesus at the love feast, So down wid the U.N. and let's knacker the Beast. Myles (the scales have fallen from my eyes) Paulsen |
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Light speed invariance proof is circular!
abzorba wrote in news:938139c5-dc57-48b0-b7f8-
: Kenseto pointed out (on another thread) re the alleged invariance of light speed: kenseto is an idiot. Do some light reading so you don't sound like a kenseto. [snip rest] |
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Light speed invariance proof is circular!
On Jun 6, 12:22*am, abzorba wrote:
Kenseto pointed out (on another thread) re the alleged invariance of light speed: This is a postulate....never been proven. The speed of light is a defined constant. To do that physicists define the length of a meter as 1/299,792,458 light-second. As you can see with this definition of a meter length the speed of light is always 299,792,458 meters/ second. This is a circular definition....the speed of light is defined by the speed of light!!!!! A new theory of relativity called IRT is invented. IRT resolvces all the paradoxes encountered by SR due to the circular definition for the speed of light. A paper on IRT is available in the following link:http://www.modelmechanics,org/2011irt.dtg.pdf Of course, why did I not see this myself??!! Now the whole metric system is diddled to prop up this fershlugginer bunch of Satanic lies!!!! But there's a way out! YES INDEEDY. You see, they might have redefined the meter according to the "invariant" speed of light, but we can get back at the Beast worshippers by making sure we never use the metric system, invented by those cheese-eating surrender monkeys the French. We can use the good ole US OF A feet and miles system. THAT will put a stop to that little gallop, my oath it will, yes indeedy. So repeat after me: I wanna be wid Jesus at the love feast, So down wid the U.N. and let's knacker the Beast. Myles (the scales have fallen from my eyes) Paulsen Speed of light has to be constant with respect to some frame. In absence of ether, we can say that light has constant speed with respect to universal frame. In that case, light has to be independent of the velocity of the source. This is of course experimentally observed. But in that case electrodynamics differs from material mechanics. Every frame has some velocity w.r.t. frame of light. Therefore velocity of light cannot be same in every inertial frame. |
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Light speed invariance proof is circular!
On Jun 6, 7:53*am, Vilas Tamhane wrote:
Therefore velocity of light cannot be same in every inertial frame. The Vilas Tamhane imbecile has spoken. |
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Light speed invariance proof is circular!
"Vilas Tamhane" wrote in message
... Speed of light has to be constant with respect to some frame. Why does it have to be? Of course, experimental results are consistent with that being the case. But not just for some PARTICULAR frame .. for ALL inertial frames. In absence of ether, we can say that light has constant speed with respect to universal frame. No .. wrt EVERY inertial frame In that case, light has to be independent of the velocity of the source. Light speed .. yes This is of course experimentally observed. Yes it is But in that case electrodynamics differs from material mechanics. No. But it differs from the simplistic Galilean/Newtonian approximates that are 'good enough' most of the time. Every frame has some velocity w.r.t. frame of light. There is no inertial (rest) frame for light, btw. Light cannot be at rest in any inertial frame. Therefore velocity of light cannot be same in every inertial frame. But it is. You cannot says it 'cannot be' if it is |
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Light speed invariance proof is circular!
Dear abzorba:
On Jun 6, 12:22*am, abzorba wrote: Kenseto pointed out (on another thread) re the alleged invariance of light speed: The light speed postulate is actually superfluous. Maxwell requires that light speed be the same constant for all inertial observers. So think of the 2nd postulate as highlighting which of the "laws of physics" is important to the derivation that then follows. Of course, why did I not see this myself??!! Now the whole metric system is diddled to prop up this fershlugginer bunch of Satanic lies!!!! Its only self consistent, which is more than can be said for anything KenSeto published. But there's a way out! YES INDEEDY. You see, they might have redefined the meter according to the "invariant" speed of light, but we can get back at the Beast worshippers by making sure we never use the metric system, invented by those cheese-eating surrender monkeys the French. Ooooh, Pentcho Valev is going to be ****ed... We can use the good ole US OF A feet and miles system. Which has been normalized to the metric standard. THAT will put a stop to that little gallop, my oath it will, yes indeedy. So repeat after me: I wanna be wid Jesus at the love feast, So down wid the U.N. and let's knacker the Beast. If you keep your tongue in your cheek much longer, you'll develop a facial deformity... Also, if someone raps the bottom of your chin, you risk biting your tongue. David A. Smith |
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Light speed invariance proof is circular!
On Jun 6, 9:56*am, dlzc wrote:
Of course, why did I not see this myself??!! Now the whole metric system is diddled to prop up this fershlugginer bunch of Satanic lies!!!! When has Satan ever lied to anybody ?-) Now Ken Seto .... |
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Light speed invariance proof is circular!
On Jun 6, 3:22*am, abzorba wrote:
Kenseto pointed out (on another thread) re the alleged invariance of light speed: This is a postulate....never been proven. The speed of light is a defined constant. To do that physicists define the length of a meter as 1/299,792,458 light-second. As you can see with this definition of a meter length the speed of light is always 299,792,458 meters/ second. This is a circular definition....the speed of light is defined by the speed of light!!!!! xxein: Prove the invariance of a meter and/or a second. Have you ever heard of length contraction or time dilation? One thing for sure. A trillion more idiots can live on the point of a pin than can know anything at all about the universe (and beyond) that they find themselves in. With that said, I hope you don't know how to educate or precreate. |
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Light speed invariance proof is circular!
abzorba wrote:
[...] The re-definition of the meter in 1983 was based on extensive measurements that showed that the speed of light is indeed constant. Those experiments used pre-1983 definitions that were not circular. Tom Roberts |
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Light speed invariance proof is circular!
On Jun 6, 8:17*pm, Tom Roberts wrote:
abzorba wrote: [...] The re-definition of the meter in 1983 was based on extensive measurements that showed that the speed of light is indeed constant. Those experiments used pre-1983 definitions that were not circular. Sure it is circular.....the one-way speed of light never been determined experimentally. Phycists refused to do such measurements because they know that the value for the one way speed of light is not a constant c as claimed by SR....the value foe OWLS is distance dependent. The one-way speed of light is isotropic so phycists do all sorts of one-way isotropy measurements. The two-way speed of light was measured experimentally but the distances between the sources and the detectors were measured using Euclidean geometry and the bogus assumption that light follows a straight line from the source to the target. |
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