Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.

On Sep 9, 1:59*am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
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On Sep 7, 6:50 pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe

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"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
present
strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
years
and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has
declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...e_of_the_geoma....

Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
reduced
magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by
some
other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?

--

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts" Richard Feynman

"What's it gotta do with cloud feedbacks?" Giga2

I've looked into it. The system is chaotic, so even in theory there
is no predicting it. No one knows any details about how it works.

The magnetic field of the Sun reverses every eleven years. In the
Earth the iron core resists this, so the reversal has no period. The
average is about 50,000 years, but it can be up to a million years.
By they way, a recent computer simulation showed that the polarity of
the core is opposite that outside of the core.

Finally, the magnetic field of the earth is about double of its
average over the lifetime of the Earth, so it is much stronger than
usual.

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There has been some great info coming in lately about the movement of
solar magnetic fields, and yet no connection has been made with GCR
seeding clouds at the poles, or at the SAA.

=Abscence of evidence is not evidence of abscence.- Hide quoted text -

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can i quote you on that, because i never claimed the it did not exist,
i said the connection has not been found. Now thats why i said the
best area to study the GCR cloud seeding link is the place where the
magnetic field dips, the SAA.

On Sep 9, 7:25*am, Peter Muehlbauer
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did you say something?

my guess, Peter, is that both climate-changing
-- not "global" warming or global "cooling" -- and
the incipient flip of the mimetic poles,
may be caused by civilization. while it seems to be true that
the glacial cycles are synchronized by the orbital variants,
the change of the distribution of insolation is probably not
enough to account for the processes.

"mimetic poles;" that's the googolplex spellchecker,
which appears to have been installed as a default,
recently.

On Sep 9, 7:04*am, dlzc wrote:
Dear Brad Guth:

On Sep 8, 10:58*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Sep 8, wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:14*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Sep 8, wrote:
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How is that not following the magnetic field lines?

There's no such thing as "magnetic field lines"

There is no such thing as "gravitational field lines", yet we all
understand "down" and "up".

In similar context, magnetic field lines would be normals to
equipotential surfaces. *In other words the direction a charge
would move.

Yes, but that's not a line formed by the magnet. *It's a line
formed by paramagnetic and diamagnetic elements reacting
to the magnetic force.

No, it is a line a charge would move. *You waste energy describing
what might cause the field lines, and incorrectly limiting what can
respond to whatever it is.

David A. Smith

Then your magnetic lines are every bit as stealth as Muslim WMD.

Good thing they each exist, because otherwise what would we attack
next?

A serious probe moving quickly past Earth does not detect any such
"magnetic lines", but it does detect the paramagnetic and diamagnetic
elements that have reacted to the geomagnetic force. I believe there
is a big difference.

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On Sep 8, 10:57*pm, Frisbieinstein wrote:
On Sep 9, 9:14*am, Brad Guth wrote:


There's no such thing as "magnetic field lines"

OK, but there is no such thing as numbers either.

You know what I mean, so stop being silly. Numbers only exist in our
thoughts, and even at that as interpreted by ETs could be as
meaningless as numbers are to ants.

Does gravity have detectable lines of force? (I seriously don't think
so)

Do photons actually move? (I'm not convinced, but at least I'm open
for whatever interpretations)

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On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:50:01 +1000, "Peter Webb"
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"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote in
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"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the present
strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
years and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity
has declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld

Very plausible indeed.

Idiot.


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On Sep 7, 6:50 pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe

wrote:
"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
present
strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
years
and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity
has
declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...e_of_the_geoma...

Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
reduced
magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by
some
other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?

--

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts" Richard Feynman

"What's it gotta do with cloud feedbacks?" Giga2

I've looked into it. The system is chaotic, so even in theory there
is no predicting it. No one knows any details about how it works.

The magnetic field of the Sun reverses every eleven years. In the
Earth the iron core resists this, so the reversal has no period. The
average is about 50,000 years, but it can be up to a million years.
By they way, a recent computer simulation showed that the polarity of
the core is opposite that outside of the core.

Finally, the magnetic field of the earth is about double of its
average over the lifetime of the Earth, so it is much stronger than
usual.

=Interesting, didn't know that about the sun either.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There has been some great info coming in lately about the movement of
solar magnetic fields, and yet no connection has been made with GCR
seeding clouds at the poles, or at the SAA.

=Abscence of evidence is not evidence of abscence.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

can i quote you on that,

=Yep.

because i never claimed the it did not exist,
i said the connection has not been found. Now thats why i said the
best area to study the GCR cloud seeding link is the place where the
magnetic field dips, the SAA.

=And the poles?

"Peter Webb" wrote in message
u...

"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote
in message ...
"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
present strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the
last 150 years and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic
intensity has declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the
modern value achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld


Very plausible indeed. There is a possible mechanism (radiation). The
semi-chaotic but periodic behaviour of our magnetic field (deriving from
our molten core) is not disimilar to climate. Also easily checked; they
have at least a graph you could use for comparison.

At least as plausible as magic co2.

On Sep 9, 2:02*pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
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On Sep 9, 1:59 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe





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On Sep 8, 5:22 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe

wrote:
"Frisbieinstein" wrote in message

....
On Sep 7, 6:50 pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe

wrote:
"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
present
strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
years
and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity
has
declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...e_of_the_geoma...

Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
reduced
magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by
some
other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?

--

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts" Richard Feynman

"What's it gotta do with cloud feedbacks?" Giga2

I've looked into it. The system is chaotic, so even in theory there
is no predicting it. No one knows any details about how it works.

The magnetic field of the Sun reverses every eleven years. In the
Earth the iron core resists this, so the reversal has no period. The
average is about 50,000 years, but it can be up to a million years.
By they way, a recent computer simulation showed that the polarity of
the core is opposite that outside of the core.

Finally, the magnetic field of the earth is about double of its
average over the lifetime of the Earth, so it is much stronger than
usual.

=Interesting, didn't know that about the sun either.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There has been some great info coming in lately about the movement of
solar magnetic fields, and yet no connection has been made with GCR
seeding clouds at the poles, or at the SAA.

=Abscence of evidence is not evidence of abscence.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

can i quote you on that,

=Yep.

because i never claimed the it did not exist,
i said the connection has not been found. *Now thats why i said the
best area to study the GCR cloud seeding link is the place where the
magnetic field dips, the SAA.

=And the poles?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

looking for gcr seeded low cloud formation in the region of the SAA
one should seperate out enso and the solar cycle. The poles are
subject to a unique cloud formation caused by reactions in the upper
atmosphere creating polar stratospheric clouds, PSC's. This means one
should try to establish a connection between GCR flux, polar
stratospheric clouds and low cloud formation over the poles.

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On Sep 8, 5:22 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe

wrote:
"Frisbieinstein" wrote in message

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On Sep 7, 6:50 pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe

wrote:
"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
present
strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last
150
years
and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity
has
declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern
value
achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...e_of_the_geoma...

Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
reduced
magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused
by
some
other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?

--

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts" Richard Feynman

"What's it gotta do with cloud feedbacks?" Giga2

I've looked into it. The system is chaotic, so even in theory there
is no predicting it. No one knows any details about how it works.

The magnetic field of the Sun reverses every eleven years. In the
Earth the iron core resists this, so the reversal has no period. The
average is about 50,000 years, but it can be up to a million years.
By they way, a recent computer simulation showed that the polarity of
the core is opposite that outside of the core.

Finally, the magnetic field of the earth is about double of its
average over the lifetime of the Earth, so it is much stronger than
usual.

=Interesting, didn't know that about the sun either.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

There has been some great info coming in lately about the movement of
solar magnetic fields, and yet no connection has been made with GCR
seeding clouds at the poles, or at the SAA.

=Abscence of evidence is not evidence of abscence.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

can i quote you on that,

=Yep.

because i never claimed the it did not exist,
i said the connection has not been found. Now thats why i said the
best area to study the GCR cloud seeding link is the place where the
magnetic field dips, the SAA.

=And the poles?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

looking for gcr seeded low cloud formation in the region of the SAA
one should seperate out enso and the solar cycle. The poles are
subject to a unique cloud formation caused by reactions in the upper
atmosphere creating polar stratospheric clouds, PSC's. This means one
should try to establish a connection between GCR flux, polar
stratospheric clouds and low cloud formation over the poles.

=Complicated huh.