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Old June 26th 03, 04:21 PM
Bill Sheppard
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Bert, you shouldn't have gotten started on the monopole trip.g Must be
that Bud Lite.
Anyhow, thinking back on Wolter's half-jest about
electrical conductors being magnetic monopoles, the same would be true
of a lightning bolt. A current-carrying wire, for its
entire length, is surrounded by a magnetic field of one 'sign' or the
other (either N or S), the sign being determined by direction of current
flow in the wire. The lines of force (flux tubes) enter the wire's
surface vertical to the surface, and do not loop around and re-enter the
wire; rather they are open-ended at their tops. And they all spin in the
same direction going in. So the entire length of the wire becomes a de
facto magnetic monopole.
A lightning bolt, for its brief existance, is also an
electrical conductor, which would make it a magnetic monopole for the
same reason.
Bert, go easy on that Bud.

oc

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Old June 26th 03, 08:25 PM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
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HI oc Very hot here in Florida and those ice cold buds are greatly
needed.Now I know little about monopoles,but I know Guth has worked on
the theory of monopoles and is a person other physicist go to for his
thoughts on them. I know he told his friend Tye when they were
both at Cornel,"If grand unified theories held, magnetic monopoles must
exist. As one of my post I used monopoles having the same negative
charge for all matter particles so they would repel,at the moment of the
BB. You could come up with a theory that gravity is a negative
monopole,and treated all matter as positive(it fits) You mention
lightning oc and that is static electricity,and it is the flow of
electrons and they are negative(did Wolter have this in mind as a
monopole?) Now Guth has the weight of a monopole at a whopping 10,000
trillion times more than a proton. Maybe a graviton is a monopole? To
get rid of all these monopoles that would out number the amount of
protons the universe has today,Guth used his inflation theory to open up
space,that in a split second this inch patch of space bloated into
region as large as the presently observable universe(in the book and are
Guth's thoughts) oc You could say that is the way Guth used his theory
to show you won't find monopoles close to us today,and no accelerator
will ever be built can ever move such a heavy mass. Bert

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Old June 26th 03, 10:40 PM
Bill Sheppard
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Bert, out here Coors rules. "It's Coors all the way down". BigG
Wolter didn't believe there is any mechanism by which a
'true' spherical magnetic monopole can exist in nature. That's because
his model of magnetism is based on flowing space and the spin component
of flowing space. It dictates that any form of magnetism has to be
bipolar (except of course the field surrounding a current-carrying
electrical conductor. A length of wire, while it displays a monopolar
'sign' along its length, does not constitute a "pole" in the sense a
spherical monopole would).
Guth et al. operate in the void-space paradigm in which
space is treated as functionally void. So all field theories and
monopole theories are rooted in the void-space premise. Wolter was
totally charitable toward the 'Void-Spacers'. He said if you're gonna
believe in void-space, then by golly you gotta have 'messenger
particles'- flying photons, gravitons, and whatever other "-itons",
"-otons" and "-onons" might seem necessary. Massive magnetic monopoles
would no doubt follow a similar imperative under void-space.

oc

 




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