Aether has mass

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On 11/9/2012 5:33 PM, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 9, 5:10 pm, wrote:
On 11/9/2012 3:57 PM, mpc755 wrote:











Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.

Sort of matter/antimatter, except without any bad reactions taking
place?

I see anti-matter as matter with opposite spin. This is different.

The aether is, or behaves similar to a supersolid. Think of the
bowling alley filled with a supersolid. As you roll the ball toward
the pins the bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid
displaces the bowling ball as the supersolid displaces back. This all
occurs within the confines of the bowling alley. Consider the Universe
to be a very large bowling alley where aether exists everywhere
particles of matter do not.

I have a very important question: Ten pin or candle pin?



Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
bowling ball toward the pins.

You are able to understand the bowling ball displaces the supersolid,
correct?

You are able to understand there is no loss of energy between the
bowling ball and the supersolid because that's what supersolid means,
correct?

You are able to understand the bowling ball will roll forever through
the supersolid, correct?

The interaction of an object and a supersolid does not mean no
interaction. It means no loss of energy in the interaction. The
bowling ball requires energy to displace the supersolid. The
supersolid returns to the bowling ball the same amount of energy as
the supersolid 'displaces back'.

Q. Is the bowling ball displacing the supersolid or is the supersolid
displacing the bowling ball?
A. Both occur simultaneously with equal force.


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Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
bowling ball toward the pins.

You are able to understand the bowling ball displaces the supersolid,
correct?

You are able to understand there is no loss of energy between the
bowling ball and the supersolid because that's what supersolid means,
correct?

You are able to understand the bowling ball will roll forever through
the supersolid, correct?

The interaction of an object and a supersolid does not mean no
interaction. It means no loss of energy in the interaction. The
bowling ball requires energy to displace the supersolid. The
supersolid returns to the bowling ball the same amount of energy as
the supersolid 'displaces back'.

Q. Is the bowling ball displacing the supersolid or is the supersolid
displacing the bowling ball?
A. Both occur simultaneously with equal force.

On Nov 9, 2:19*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 9, 4:42*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Nov 9, 12:57*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 9, 3:52*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Nov 9, 12:44*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 9, 3:38*pm, Painius wrote:

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:

It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.

Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. *My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". *There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.

Once more - you stated...

Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?

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Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.

Sort of matter/antimatter, except without any bad reactions taking
place?

I see anti-matter as matter with opposite spin. This is different.

The aether is, or behaves similar to a supersolid. Think of the
bowling alley filled with a supersolid. As you roll the ball toward
the pins the bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid
displaces the bowling ball as the supersolid displaces back. This all
occurs within the confines of the bowling alley. Consider the Universe
to be a very large bowling alley where aether exists everywhere
particles of matter do not.

That's all fine and dandy.

So, what's your best swag as to how much the all-inclusive universe
(including its aether) weighs?

In other words, what is the average IGM mass of a m3 worth of aether?

http://www.space.com/11642-dark-matt...rcent-universe...

"All the stars, planets and galaxies that can be seen today make up
just 4 percent of the universe. The other 96 percent is made of stuff
astronomers can't see, detect or even comprehend."

Dark matter is aether. Dark energy is aether emitted into the
Universal jet. Aether makes up 96% of the Universe.

In other words, aether as dark/cleat matter is worth at least 24 times
as much as molecular matter.

On Nov 9, 2:34*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 9, 5:33*pm, HVAC wrote:

On 11/9/2012 5:19 PM, mpc755 wrote:

"All the stars, planets and galaxies that can be seen today make up
just 4 percent of the universe. The other 96 percent is made of stuff
astronomers can't see, detect or even comprehend."

Dark matter is aether. Dark energy is aether emitted into the
Universal jet. Aether makes up 96% of the Universe.

Absolute and utter hogwash.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
bowling ball toward the pins.

You are able to understand the bowling ball displaces the supersolid,
correct?

You are able to understand there is no loss of energy between the
bowling ball and the supersolid because that's what supersolid means,
correct?

You are able to understand the bowling ball will roll forever through
the supersolid, correct?

The interaction of an object and a supersolid does not mean no
interaction. It means no loss of energy in the interaction. The
bowling ball requires energy to displace the supersolid. The
supersolid returns to the bowling ball the same amount of energy as
the supersolid 'displaces back'.

Q. Is the bowling ball displacing the supersolid or is the supersolid
displacing the bowling ball?
A. Both occur simultaneously with equal force.

Harlow is incapable of understanding much of anything, especially if
it's not mainstream and Semite approved.

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:44:23 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 3:38*pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:

It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.

Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. *My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". *There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.

Once more - you stated...

Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?

Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.


And again, just like the battery in a DC circuit exerts a pressure
that moves current through the circuit, there must be a source of the
pressure that is exerted by the displaced aether. In your opinion,
what is that source?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind; the thief doth fear each
bush an officer."

On Nov 10, 1:18*am, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:44:23 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:









On Nov 9, 3:38 pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:

It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.

Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.

Once more - you stated...

Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?

Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.

And again, just like the battery in a DC circuit exerts a pressure
that moves current through the circuit, there must be a source of the
pressure that is exerted by the displaced aether. *In your opinion,
what is that source?

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind; the thief doth fear each
bush an officer."

The source is the aether exists everywhere particles of matter do not.

The aether is, or behaves similar to a supersolid. Think of a
bowling alley filled with a supersolid. As you roll the ball toward
the pins the bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid
displaces the bowling ball as the supersolid displaces back. This all
occurs within the confines of the bowling alley. Consider the Universe
to be a very large bowling alley where aether exists everywhere
particles of matter do not.

The aether used to be considered an absolutely stationary space. This
is what the Michelson-Morley experiment looked for. The aether is not
an absolutely stationary space. Aether is displaced by matter.

In order to help conceptualize this, in a simplified view, think of
the aether as a stationary space except for the particles of matter
moving through it and displacing it.

On Nov 9, 10:18*pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:44:23 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:









On Nov 9, 3:38*pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:

It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.

Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. *My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". *There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.

Once more - you stated...

Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?

Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.

And again, just like the battery in a DC circuit exerts a pressure
that moves current through the circuit, there must be a source of the
pressure that is exerted by the displaced aether. *In your opinion,
what is that source?

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind; the thief doth fear each
bush an officer."

Perhaps aether is the last unknown element of what makes everything
tick, and otherwise responsible for what ties everything together, as
the grand unification of gravity that could represent the final nail
in the coffin of physics.

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On Nov 10, 7:58*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 9, 10:18*pm, Painius wrote:









On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:44:23 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 3:38*pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:

It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.

Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. *My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". *There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.

Once more - you stated...

Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?

Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.

And again, just like the battery in a DC circuit exerts a pressure
that moves current through the circuit, there must be a source of the
pressure that is exerted by the displaced aether. *In your opinion,
what is that source?

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind; the thief doth fear each
bush an officer."

Perhaps aether is the last unknown element of what makes everything
tick, and otherwise responsible for what ties everything together, as
the grand unification of gravity that could represent the final nail
in the coffin of physics.

*https://groups.google.com/forum/m/
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Mainstream physics is completely screwed up. It is completely screwed
up because it is in denial of the existence of aether. Not only is it
in denial of the existence of the aether it is in denial of
understanding aether has mass.

Most, if not all, of the absurdities in mainstream physics have to do
with its denial of the aether.

The nonsense associated with trying to explain what occurs physically
in nature in a double slit experiment to explaining what occurs
physically in nature to cause gravity goes away when you correctly
understand aether has mass.

Mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't even bring itself to
understand what the evidence of non-baryonic dark matter not anchored
to matter means. Mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't even
understand this means particles of matter move through and displace
the aether.

Quick summary of what is correctly explained by understanding aether
has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space.
- gravity
- what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment
- the casimir effect
- non-baryonic dark matter not anchored to matter
- offset between galaxy clusters and the light lensing through the
space neighboring the galaxy clusters
- the wave out ahead of our solar system
- the pushing back and inward pressure toward the solar system
discovered by voyager
- the ring surrounding galaxy cluster collisions
- the milky way's halo
- gravitational waves
- pilot-waves
- the relationship between mass and energy

And that's just the start...

On Nov 10, 8:14*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 10, 7:58*am, Brad Guth wrote:









On Nov 9, 10:18*pm, Painius wrote:

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:44:23 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 3:38*pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:

It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.

Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. *My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". *There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.

Once more - you stated...

Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?

Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.

And again, just like the battery in a DC circuit exerts a pressure
that moves current through the circuit, there must be a source of the
pressure that is exerted by the displaced aether. *In your opinion,
what is that source?

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind; the thief doth fear each
bush an officer."

Perhaps aether is the last unknown element of what makes everything
tick, and otherwise responsible for what ties everything together, as
the grand unification of gravity that could represent the final nail
in the coffin of physics.

*https://groups.google.com/forum/m/
*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”

Mainstream physics is completely screwed up. It is completely screwed
up because it is in denial of the existence of aether. Not only is it
in denial of the existence of the aether it is in denial of
understanding aether has mass.

Most, if not all, of the absurdities in mainstream physics have to do
with its denial of the aether.

The nonsense associated with trying to explain what occurs physically
in nature in a double slit experiment to explaining what occurs
physically in nature to cause gravity goes away when you correctly
understand aether has mass.

Mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't even bring itself to
understand what the evidence of non-baryonic dark matter not anchored
to matter means. Mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't even
understand this means particles of matter move through and displace
the aether.

Quick summary of what is correctly explained by understanding aether
has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space.
- gravity
- what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment
- the casimir effect
- non-baryonic dark matter not anchored to matter
- offset between galaxy clusters and the light lensing through the
space neighboring the galaxy clusters
- the wave out ahead of our solar system
- the pushing back and inward pressure toward the solar system
discovered by voyager
- the ring surrounding galaxy cluster collisions
- the milky way's halo
- gravitational waves
- pilot-waves
- the relationship between mass and energy

And that's just the start...

- what curved spacetime physically exists as in nature

On Nov 10, 4:16*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 10, 1:18*am, Painius wrote:









On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:44:23 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 3:38 pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:

It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.

Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.

Once more - you stated...

Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?

Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.

And again, just like the battery in a DC circuit exerts a pressure
that moves current through the circuit, there must be a source of the
pressure that is exerted by the displaced aether. *In your opinion,
what is that source?

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind; the thief doth fear each
bush an officer."

The source is the aether exists everywhere particles of matter do not.

The aether is, or behaves similar to a supersolid. Think of a
bowling alley filled with a supersolid. As you roll the ball toward
the pins the bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid
displaces the bowling ball as the supersolid displaces back. This all
occurs within the confines of the bowling alley. Consider the Universe
to be a very large bowling alley where aether exists everywhere
particles of matter do not.

The aether used to be considered an absolutely stationary space. This
is what the Michelson-Morley experiment looked for. The aether is not
an absolutely stationary space. Aether is displaced by matter.

In order to help conceptualize this, in a simplified view, think of
the aether as a stationary space except for the particles of matter
moving through it and displacing it.

Yes, but how is this aether/supersolid the causation of orbital
mechanics, when it's well proven that molecular mass is objectively
the cause?

Molecular diamagnetics will disable those molecular bonds of gravity,
although once sufficiently separated the stronger force of gravity at
distance seems to take hold regardless of the amount of those
molecular diamagnetic properties. In other words, the paramagnetic
and diagrammatic items can coexist in a orbital dynamic coexistence as
long as there's sufficient distance involved, but up close there are
those magnetic forces of attraction or repulsion that simply exceed
the force of gravity.

If aether is a purely inert supersolid, as well as neither
paramagnetic nor diamagnetic, and otherwise merely a transparent
conductor or medium on behalf of accommodating photons and gravitons
would start to make sense as to a cosmic supersolid volume of mass
that's 24 times greater than molecular mass.

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