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Does the Universe Have No Single Past, or Definite History?
"In classical physics, the past is assumed to exist as a definite
series of events, but according to quantum physics, the past like the future, is indefinite and exists only as a spectrum of possibilities. Even the universe as a whole has no single past or history." -- From the article "The (Elusive) Theory of Everything" by Stephen Hawking and Leanard Mladinow in the "Scientific American" October 2010 issue. Double-A |
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Does the Universe Have No Single Past, or Definite History?
On Oct 8, 5:59*pm, Double-A wrote:
"In classical physics, the past is assumed to exist as a definite series of events, but according to quantum physics, the past like the future, is indefinite and exists only as a spectrum of possibilities. Even the universe as a whole has no single past or history." * -- From the article "The (Elusive) Theory of Everything" by Stephen Hawking and Leanard Mladinow in the "Scientific American" October 2010 issue. Double-A BB Beginning of spacetime |
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Does the Universe Have No Single Past, or Definite History?
On Oct 8, 5:59*pm, Double-A wrote:
"In classical physics, the past is assumed to exist as a definite series of events, but according to quantum physics, the past like the future, is indefinite and exists only as a spectrum of possibilities. Even the universe as a whole has no single past or history." * -- From the article "The (Elusive) Theory of Everything" by Stephen Hawking and Leanard Mladinow in the "Scientific American" October 2010 issue. Double-A It would appear based on classic physics that the past would be defined by events as they happen. It is the future that is probable and cannot be determined with complete accuracy. The future seems to accord with quantum theory with its infinite possibilities. But if that is the case and those possibilities exist do all of them become fulfilled on the quantum level? If that is the case then the past also has as you say a spectrum of possibilities. My experience with a psychic has revealed that future time is quantum in its make up. The past having quantum possibilities would suggest other dimensions or parallel universes. RT |
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Does the Universe Have No Single Past, or Definite History?
My dearest Double-A,
"Double-A" wrote in message... ... "In classical physics, the past is assumed to exist as a definite series of events, but according to quantum physics, the past like the future, is indefinite and exists only as a spectrum of possibilities. Even the universe as a whole has no single past or history." -- From the article "The (Elusive) Theory of Everything" by Stephen Hawking and Leanard Mladinow in the "Scientific American" October 2010 issue. Double-A Hawking just keeps sounding madder and madder. I don't suppose he and Leo would be alluding to how it is those in power who write the history books and who pretty much record whatever they want to record, true or not? Or maybe they're grinning and thinking of Streisand, who sang... "Mem'ries, may be beautiful and yet What's too painful to remember We simply choose to forget So it's the laughter We will remember Whenever we remember... The way we were..."? Or, and this is my *best* guess, the fact that each of us have our own separate histories and pasts seems to reflect a definite spectrum of possibilities rather than any distinct and hardfast timeline. And before we came on the scene? before the hazy fossil records were formed? before Earth and Sun joined forces to evolve life? Who knows? I'm still leaning slightly toward a majestic computer sim. God is a beautiful, female, chocolate-flavored neutrino- quark with possibly a classical music spectrum. Happy days *and*... Starry, starry nights ! -- Indelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth PS - "We are all here for a spell; get all the good laughs you can." Will Rogers PPS - http://astro.painellsworth.net ! http://www.secretsgolden.com ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth ! |
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Does the Universe Have No Single Past, or Definite History?
On Oct 13, 5:39*am, "Painius" wrote:
My dearest Double-A, "Double-A" wrote in message... ... "In classical physics, the past is assumed to exist as a definite series of events, but according to quantum physics, the past like the future, is indefinite and exists only as a spectrum of possibilities. Even the universe as a whole has no single past or history." * -- From the article "The (Elusive) Theory of Everything" by Stephen Hawking and Leanard Mladinow in the "Scientific American" October 2010 issue. Double-A Hawking just keeps sounding madder and madder. *I don't suppose he and Leo would be alluding to how it is those in power who write the history books and who pretty much record whatever they want to record, true or not? *Or maybe they're grinning and thinking of Streisand, who sang... * "Mem'ries, may be beautiful and yet * What's too painful to remember * We simply choose to forget * So it's the laughter * We will remember * Whenever we remember... * The way we were..."? Or, and this is my *best* guess, the fact that each of us have our own separate histories and pasts seems to reflect a definite spectrum of possibilities rather than any distinct and hardfast timeline. *And before we came on the scene? before the hazy fossil records were formed? before Earth and Sun joined forces to evolve life? Who knows? I'm still leaning slightly toward a majestic computer sim. God is a beautiful, female, chocolate-flavored neutrino- quark with possibly a classical music spectrum. Happy days *and*... * *Starry, starry nights ! -- Indelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth PS - "We are all here for a spell; get all the * * * * good laughs you can." * * Will Rogers PPS -http://astro.painellsworth.net! * * * * * *http://www.secretsgolden.com! * * * * * * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth! Yes Painius a universe can only exist if it has eyes to see itself. Without high life it would be a void.(of no use) There are as many universes as flakes of snow in an endless storm. All have humankind life. Treb just gave me a thumbs up TreBert |
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Does the Universe Have No Single Past, or Definite History?
My dearest Harlow,
"HVAC" wrote... in message ... On 10/19/2010 2:54 PM, Double-A wrote: HVAC writted... But once the present becomes the past, uncertainty is removed. It is what it is becomes it was what it was. ~ How do you like me now? Wrong! Which part, dummy? Probably begins with the part where you said that uncertainty is removed. It is what it is becomes it was what those in power want posterity to think it was. One would think an astrophysicist activist would *know* that. Happy days *and*... Starry, starry nights ! -- Indelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth PS - "To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world." Bill Wilson PPS - http://astro.painellsworth.net ! http://www.secretsgolden.com ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth ! |
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Does the Universe Have No Single Past, or Definite History?
On Oct 13, 8:30*am, bert wrote:
On Oct 13, 5:39*am, "Painius" wrote: My dearest Double-A, "Double-A" wrote in message... ... "In classical physics, the past is assumed to exist as a definite series of events, but according to quantum physics, the past like the future, is indefinite and exists only as a spectrum of possibilities. Even the universe as a whole has no single past or history." * -- From the article "The (Elusive) Theory of Everything" by Stephen Hawking and Leanard Mladinow in the "Scientific American" October 2010 issue. Double-A Hawking just keeps sounding madder and madder. *I don't suppose he and Leo would be alluding to how it is those in power who write the history books and who pretty much record whatever they want to record, true or not? *Or maybe they're grinning and thinking of Streisand, who sang... * "Mem'ries, may be beautiful and yet * What's too painful to remember * We simply choose to forget * So it's the laughter * We will remember * Whenever we remember... * The way we were..."? Or, and this is my *best* guess, the fact that each of us have our own separate histories and pasts seems to reflect a definite spectrum of possibilities rather than any distinct and hardfast timeline. *And before we came on the scene? before the hazy fossil records were formed? before Earth and Sun joined forces to evolve life? Who knows? I'm still leaning slightly toward a majestic computer sim. God is a beautiful, female, chocolate-flavored neutrino- quark with possibly a classical music spectrum. Happy days *and*... * *Starry, starry nights ! -- Indelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth PS - "We are all here for a spell; get all the * * * * good laughs you can." * * Will Rogers PPS -http://astro.painellsworth.net! * * * * * *http://www.secretsgolden.com! * * * * * * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth! Yes Painius a universe can only exist if it has eyes to see itself. Without high life it would be a void.(of no use) *There are as many universes *as flakes of snow in an endless storm. All have humankind life. *Treb just gave me a thumbs up * *TreBert- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There was never a spacetime with no events. Reason space always has intrinsic energy. The cosmos creates universes at an accelerating rate. It has accelerating space inflation to give them timelaps(elbow room) TreBert |
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Does the Universe Have No Single Past, or Definite History?
On 10/28/2010 3:50 AM, Painius wrote:
But once the present becomes the past, uncertainty is removed. It is what it is becomes it was what it was. ~ How do you like me now? Wrong! Which part, dummy? Probably begins with the part where you said that uncertainty is removed. It is what it is becomes it was what those in power want posterity to think it was. "Those in power"....Who the **** are "Those in power"? It's US, snappahead. All of us together have the power. |
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Does the Universe Have No Single Past, or Definite History?
My Dearest Harlow,
"HVAC" wrote... in message ... On 10/28/2010 3:50 AM, Painius wrote: But once the present becomes the past, uncertainty is removed. It is what it is becomes it was what it was. ~ How do you like me now? Wrong! Which part, dummy? Probably begins with the part where you said that uncertainty is removed. It is what it is becomes it was what those in power want posterity to think it was. "Those in power"....Who the **** are "Those in power"? It's US, snappahead. All of us together have the power. All of us together? Since when have we been "all of us together"? Clueless people have no power. Happy days *and*... Starry, starry nights ! -- Indelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth PS - "To live life at risk you've got to jump off cliffs all the time and build your wings on the way down." Ray Bradbury PPS - http://astro.painellsworth.net ! http://www.secretsgolden.com ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth ! |
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Does the Universe Have No Single Past, or Definite History?
On 10/31/2010 9:50 PM, Painius wrote:
My Dearest Harlow, LOL! "Those in power"....Who the **** are "Those in power"? It's US, snappahead. All of us together have the power. All of us together? Since when have we been "all of us together"? Clueless people have no power. Then that makes you powerless. PS- You still didn't answer my question... Who the **** are "Those in power"? -- "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" - Mark Twain |
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