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Bye-bye Moon program, hello ISS to 2020
On Feb 8, 11:42*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Frank Robertson wrote: Of course, if Obama isn't quite the visionary that JFK or Ronald Reagan was.....wait, let me say something here you might not here much about. In Andrew Chaikin'shttp://www.andrewchaikin.com/book, "A Passion for MARS," Chaikin points out that when President RR was being briefed about the Space Station "Freedom" plan, Ronald asked, "What does this have to with going to Mars?" Then Chaikin openly acknowledges: 'The President was a space enthusiast!' Reagan just wanted something to upstage Mir. Preferably something with guns, missiles, or lasers on it. But the real space fan was Dan Quayle, who realized getting to Mars would be pretty easy, as it shares Earth's orbit:http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/526.html Pat Is that quote for real? Is so he got science from the movies. Yikes. |
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Fred J. McCall wrote:
The difference is that there WERE private aviation vehicles that could do the job. Where is the private 'astronaut delivery vehicle' that NASA can put private contract money against? Airmail didn't have to directly fund AIRCRAFT DEVELOPMENT. But it did once the concept got up and running; the Spirit Of St. Louis was based on a Ryan designed mailplane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_M-1 ....and it wasn't the only aircraft designed to carry the US Mail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...anes_1920-1929 Pat |
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Bye-bye Moon program, hello ISS to 2020
Fred J. McCall wrote:
And that's where it should have been cancelled. Of course, we've discussed all that already. And that's part of why the group is dead. Without something new going on that actually has a chance of succeeding, there's really nothing to do but flame idiots until they're toasty. Paraphrasing Yogi Berra, space history is all behind us. ;-) Pat |
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Bye-bye Moon program, hello ISS to 2020
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Derek Lyons wrote: It's not so much that, but rather that if the science isn't exciting the people don't think it's science. Decades of edutainment have done that for us. The Station Science page is poorly executed and yes, it completely fails to capture the attention of fellow scientists from related fields, let alone the general public's attention. If you would like to see a good example of communicating science to the taxpaying public, look he http://kb.psi-structuralgenomics.org/ and he http://www.pdb.org/ When I look at the Station Science page, I would expect to be able to see a photograph describing the experiment, an experimental result for completed missions, perhaps a photograph of the experiment _in situ_ at ISS, and optimally, a brief video from someone at NASA or the experimental group explaining why I should care about this experiment. If there is such a page describing station science, I'd love to be directed to it. -- -- |
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Brian Thorn wrote: Except that, maybe one has: a vaccine for salmonella. http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/0...a-vaccine.html Maybe, but it is unclear to me what part of the putative vaccine development was actually made possible by the microgravity experiments. Just because a group did work on (A) the effect of microgravity on bacterial virulence and the same group is (B) doing work on a vaccine does not mean that A led to B. It is a bit of a stretch, based on what I know about the molecular mechanisms of bacterial virulence, but I would love to be mistaken. -- -- |
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On Feb 13, 2:34�pm, (Craig Bingman) wrote:
In article , Brian Thorn wrote: Except that, maybe one has: a vaccine for salmonella. http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/0...a-vaccine.html Maybe, but it is unclear to me what part of the putative vaccine development was actually made possible by the microgravity experiments. Just because a group did work on (A) the effect of microgravity on bacterial virulence and the same group is (B) doing work on a vaccine does not mean that A led to B. � It is a bit of a stretch, based on what I know about the molecular mechanisms of bacterial virulence, but I would love to be mistaken. -- -- � Hey solar space power is a great wonderful idea China can design build and launch it for a fraction of what it would cost in the US. Elminates minimum wage OSHA and lots other costs like social security. So china can beam down the power and sell it to us. While they are at it their coal to gasoline plants can sell us all the gasoline we need too. Why build ANYTHING IN OUR COUNTRY? while others can do it cheaper? Heck just buy space access from china onboard their new space station. While waiting for a berth on one of their many moon missions. We can go as tourists. Chinas profits can be reinvested in Mars and asteroid missions. Wonder what china will charge to deflect a asteroid from hitting the US? |
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Bye-bye Moon program, hello ISS to 2020
On Feb 13, 2:21*pm, (Craig Bingman) wrote:
In article , Derek Lyons wrote: It's not so much that, but rather that if the science isn't exciting the people don't think it's science. *Decades of edutainment have done that for us. The Station Science page is poorly executed and yes, it completely fails to capture the attention of fellow scientists from related fields, let alone the general public's attention. * If you would like to see a good example of communicating science to the taxpaying public, look he http://kb.psi-structuralgenomics.org/ and he http://www.pdb.org/ When I look at the Station Science page, I would expect to be able to see a photograph describing the experiment, an experimental result for completed missions, perhaps a photograph of the experiment _in situ_ at ISS, and optimally, a brief video from someone at NASA or the experimental group explaining why I should care about this experiment. If there is such a page describing station science, I'd love to be directed to it. * -- -- * The closest thing to the science page you're looking for is: http://ryushin018.files.wordpress.co...the_worlds.jpg |
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