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Ok, I'll Ask The Question A Different Way
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:44:29 +0000, Steve Firth
wrote the following to uk.misc: Richard Tobin wrote: In article , Steve Firth wrote: "We are not *Going* to see Global Warming and Climate Change, We are SEEING IT NOW. Take a trip to the real Geographic North Pole to see these events for yourself." See that ice? See how thin it is? Walk right over there and see for yourself! Unsure that CO2 is responsible for global warming? Let's all fly around the world to find out if it's true! For some reason I'm reminded of things like Comic Relief where people like Dawn French and Robbie Coltrane tell us there's not enough food in the world, or Jonathan King on *that* edition of Brass Eye. mh. -- http://www.nukesoft.co.uk http://personal.nukesoft.co.uk From address is a blackhole. Reply-to address is valid. |
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Ok, I'll Ask The Question A Different Way
"Marcus Houlden" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:44:29 +0000, Steve Firth wrote the following to uk.misc: Richard Tobin wrote: In article , Steve Firth wrote: "We are not *Going* to see Global Warming and Climate Change, We are SEEING IT NOW. Take a trip to the real Geographic North Pole to see these events for yourself." See that ice? See how thin it is? Walk right over there and see for yourself! Unsure that CO2 is responsible for global warming? Let's all fly around the world to find out if it's true! For some reason I'm reminded of things like Comic Relief where people like Dawn French and Robbie Coltrane tell us there's not enough food in the world, or Jonathan King on *that* edition of Brass Eye. Don't remember seeing that one. Did you make it up perhaps? :-) |
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Ok, I'll Ask The Question A Different Way (was: "Top Gear" Polar
On Dec 30 2009, 12:24*pm, Fleetie wrote:
Forgetting the magnetic pole, then: At the true North Pole, i.e. that about which the Earth is rotating at a given time, would a GPS read exactly 90 deg. N? How would the precession of the Earth affect this? I could say that you are just not good enough to deal with the matter but that would be an injustice as it gives you no leeway to find your way through obfuscating arguments which tried to force planetary orbital dynamics into right ascension. http://books.google.com/books?id=4k9...e&q=&f=fals e The good Rev Maskelyne here,the one who had a problem with Harrison and his clocks,merrily conjures up whatever fiction he needs to get the elaborate scheme to work and while I take a minor pleasure in watching these guys mangle the raw cycles which link the astronomical cycles with timekeeping averages,eventually somebody is going to have to look at the actual principles which transfer the average 24 hour day to daily rotation as a constant or the rotation of the equatorial diameter at a rate of 15 degrees and 1669.8 km per hour and a full 40,075 km rotation in 24 hours,a good place to start is Harrison himself on page 90-91 - http://books.google.ie/books?id=8roA...emarks&f=false A contemporary view is that precession may not be a result of 'tilt' but a consequence of the orbital motion of the Earth or rather,a consequence of a cycle greater than the annual orbital motion of the Earth,possibly the solar system's galactic orbital motion,whatever it is,you ain't going to appreciate it with Maskelyne's conception of using right ascension to explain planetary dynamics and it is time for people to grow out of this view which even your King once thought as unconscionable. x-posted to uk.sci.astronomy because there are those there who I think would know. Martin Indeed !,there are many ancestors of Flamsteed's equatorial coordinate system applied to planetary dynamics and you probably have no idea just how dismal that situation actually is probably as anti- astronomical as you can get,certainly worst than flat Earthers. |
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Ok, I'll Ask The Question A Different Way
Huge wrote:
On 2009-12-31, Steve Firth wrote: That makes me groan as much as all those BBC documentaries in which some knob flies halfway around the world in order to wring his hands about the stupidity of flying halfway around the world. I particularly liked the middle aged lady in the Toyota Pius, sitting outside the farm shop on Xmas Eve with the engine running in order to keep warm. Point spectacularly missed, IMO. I followed one of those home yesterday. I suppose it's no coincidence that Prius drivers seem to be right up there for driving talent alongside those who have a fish badge on the back of their car. This one stuck behind someone bimbling down a rural 'A' road at 45 mph. There aren't many opportunities for overtaking and whenever the road did open up Prius man drove astride the white line preventing me from overtaking, but failing to do so himself. At every corner both cars ahead of me coasted through the corners - that's for the ones where they didn't brake at or just after the apex. When the 45mph car turned off Prius man flogged his engine as hard as he could, and I reckon he steamed away from me at about 80-85mph. So his vehicle had been capable of overtaking. He then had to slam on the anchors for the traffic lights, accelerated away from those as hard as he could, got into a twisty section and slowed right down since he seemed to be frightened by corners. The last I sw of him he was caning it through the village where I live (40 limit) and didn't seem inclined to slow down for the speed limit at all. Again, seemed to be missing the point with his divot antics. I presume he finds the Prius more economical than other cars because if he'd driven a conventional car that way he'd have been wasting fuel. |
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Ok, I'll Ask The Question A Different Way
Steve Firth wrote:
I followed one of those home yesterday. I suppose it's no coincidence that Prius drivers seem to be right up there for driving talent alongside those who have a fish badge on the back of their car. I thought the point about fish badge drivers wasn't so much "driving talent" as the complete absence of any sort of "do unto others" on the roads. |
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