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Precise and Accurate, or Imprecise and Inaccurate
Eric Flesch writes:
Two new pre-prints with contrasting results are out, kind of like the scientific equivalent of a food fight. It's a hot topic, the CMB temperature as a function of redshift -- which, if true, makes any static model untenable. [apologies for the much delayed response...] Add a couple more exhibits: [1] K. M. Menten, C. L. Carilli, and M. J. Reid (1998), "Interferometric Observations of Redshifted Molecular Absorption toward Gravitational Lenses" "Given that Trot=Tcrnb, the accurate optical depth determinations afforded by our interferometer measurements allow for a meaningful estimate of the cosmic microwave background temperature at z = 0.89, for which big bang theory predicts a value of (1+z)2.73 K = 5.14 K. In particular, from the HC3N J = 3-2 and 5-4 spectra shown in Fig. 3 we derive Trot = 4.5+1.5-0.6 K. We note that the errors quoted for the HC3N rotation temperature are formal uncertainties and do not take into consideration systematic effects such as variations in the source covering factor between 14.5 and 24.1 GHz, the frequencies of the redshifted 3-2 and 5-4 lines." [2] C. Henkel, K. M. Menten, M. T. Murphy, N. Jethava, V. V. Flambaum, J. A. Braatz, S. Muller, J. Ott, and R. Q. Mao, A&A 500, 725 (2009) "The density, the cosmic microwave background, and the proton-to-electron mass ratio in a cloud at redshift 0.9" "[...] toward the south-western source, excitation temperatures of molecular species with optically thin lines and higher rotational constants are, on average, consistent with the expected temperature of the cosmic microwave background, TCMB = 5.14 K. However, individually, there is a surprisingly large scatter which far surpasses expected uncertainties. A comparison of CS J = 1-0 and 4-3 optical depths toward the weaker north-western absorption component results in Tex = 11 K and a 1-sigma error of 3 K." On 24 December arxiv:1212.5456 (accepted by A&A): "A precise and accurate determination of the cosmic microwave background temperature at z=0.89" by S. Muller et al determines a CMB temp of 5.08K for PKS 1830-211 at z=0.89, although they stated some assumptions, particularly page 2 column 2 top "of great importance for our study" that the emission is behind the absorbing gas. Note that Muller is a co-author of [2]. On 27 December arxiv 1212.5625 (accepted by ApJ): "On Measuring the CMB Temperature at Redshift 0.89" by M. Sato et al, determines a CMB temp of 1.1 - 2.5K for this same galaxy! They pointedly assert that high-resolution imaging shows that the absorbing gas covers at best only part of the emitter. Full author list is Sato, Reid, Menten, Carilli. The latter three are the authors of [1], and Menten is also a co-author of [2] (with Muller). So the 2nd paper clearly refutes the assumption "of great importance" of the 1st paper, that the absorbing gas covers the whole emitter. Reading further, the first paper is based on observations done in 2011-2012, the 2nd paper is based on observations done in 1999 (!). Not making sense? My loose reading is that the 1999 observers found that the PKS 1830-211 observations did not confirm the CMB temp / redshift dependency, but did not publish. Now in 2012 a new group of "young pups" do find such a dependency, in the process ignoring the findings of the "old timers" of 1999. These old timers are not happy because their careful observations are being ignored, so are now publishing their findings at last. I don't have any personal knowledge, but if I were to make a narrative to go with the observations, it would go something like this: (1) Menten et al. make high res observations of PKS 1830-211 and publish a CMB temp consistent with standard theory, using nominal assumptions about the systematics (2) Henkel et al. (including Menten and Muller) observe larger than expected variability in observations, challenging the assumptions about systematic effects made in (1) (3) Muller et al. publish arxiv:1212.5456, essentially claiming that the systematics found in (2) are well enough understood or small enough for a precision analysis (4) Sato et al. publish arxiv:1212.5625, challenging the Muller et al. claim that the systematics are well understood. I don't really see this paper as challenging the CMB temp per se, but rather primarily challenging the systematic uncertainty estimates in Muller et al. If you want to really delve into reading the tea leaves, it would seem that Sato--a relative newcomer to the group--played some significant role in reanalyzing the 1998 data to test the covering factor homegeneity. -dan |
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Precise and Accurate, or Imprecise and Inaccurate
On Fri, 01 Mar 13, Dan Riley wrote:
If you want to really delve into reading the tea leaves, it would seem that Sato--a relative newcomer to the group--played some significant role in reanalyzing the 1998 data to test the covering factor homegeneity. Yes, she is evidently a VLT multi-wave specialist at Max-Planck. Possibly she will review other papers for similar problems. |
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