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Arecibo telescope to be demolished
It is sad that the Arecibo telescope will soon be demolished. I
understand that it is the right thing to do given the dangerous state in which it is. Still, it is sad to lose such an instrument. Alain Fournier |
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Remember when Alain Fournier bragged outrageously? That was Thursday:
It is sad that the Arecibo telescope will soon be demolished. I understand that it is the right thing to do given the dangerous state in which it is. Still, it is sad to lose such an instrument. Yes. /dps -- I have always been glad we weren't killed that night. I do not know any particular reason, but I have always been glad. _Roughing It_, Mark Twain |
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On 20-Nov-20 1:38 pm, Alain Fournier wrote:
It is sad that the Arecibo telescope will soon be demolished. I understand that it is the right thing to do given the dangerous state in which it is. Still, it is sad to lose such an instrument. Alain Fournier It seems they cannot find a safe way to repair it, and are uncertain about its integrity given that a cable appears to have failed at well under its theoretical strength. But it was built once. It could be built again. Sylvia. |
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On Friday or thereabouts, Sylvia Else declared ...
But it was built once. It could be built again. Ha ha. "But despite a long history of scientific contributions, the observatory has been struggling for funding for over a decade" URL:https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/11/famed-arecibo-observatory-to-be-decommissioned-in-wake-of-cable-breaks/ /dps -- "What do you think of my cart, Miss Morland? A neat one, is not it? Well hung: curricle-hung in fact. Come sit by me and we'll test the springs." (Speculative fiction by H.Lacedaemonian.) |
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Alain Fournier writes:
It is sad that the Arecibo telescope will soon be demolished. I understand that it is the right thing to do given the dangerous state in which it is. Still, it is sad to lose such an instrument. Alain Fournier Radio astronomers make for bad civil engineers appearently. It was just a few short months ago that we were reading that new cables would be installed in an attempt to repair the telescope. Now with an additional cable break it has become too unstable to safely repair. But this is deterioration over time. You can't tell me it was impossible to to spot these issues well enough in advance to have not waited until it was too late. So much for science in the public interest. Has it become the case that this telescope has actually outlived its usefulness and no one was willing to point out the emperor has no clothes? From what I can see, it was already a wasting asset and must have been for years. Dave |
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On 21-Nov-20 11:14 am, David Spain wrote:
Alain Fournier writes: It is sad that the Arecibo telescope will soon be demolished. I understand that it is the right thing to do given the dangerous state in which it is. Still, it is sad to lose such an instrument. Alain Fournier Radio astronomers make for bad civil engineers appearently. It was just a few short months ago that we were reading that new cables would be installed in an attempt to repair the telescope. Now with an additional cable break it has become too unstable to safely repair. But this is deterioration over time. You can't tell me it was impossible to to spot these issues well enough in advance to have not waited until it was too late. So much for science in the public interest. Has it become the case that this telescope has actually outlived its usefulness and no one was willing to point out the emperor has no clothes? From what I can see, it was already a wasting asset and must have been for years. Dave What makes you think the radio astronomers were involved in the civil engineering assessments? Sylvia. |
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David Spain scribbled something on Friday the 11/20/2020:
Alain Fournier writes: It is sad that the Arecibo telescope will soon be demolished. I understand that it is the right thing to do given the dangerous state in which it is. Still, it is sad to lose such an instrument. Alain Fournier Radio astronomers make for bad civil engineers appearently. It was just a few short months ago that we were reading that new cables would be installed in an attempt to repair the telescope. Now with an additional cable break it has become too unstable to safely repair. But this is deterioration over time. You can't tell me it was impossible to to spot these issues well enough in advance to have not waited until it was too late. So much for science in the public interest. Has it become the case that this telescope has actually outlived its usefulness and no one was willing to point out the emperor has no clothes? From what I can see, it was already a wasting asset and must have been for years. Did you read the articles? It has had difficulty with funding for years, and the will to upgrade it or replace it has been diverted into newer and more capable instruments. /dps -- "That's a good sort of hectic, innit?" " Very much so, and I'd recommend the haggis wontons." -njm |
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Lo, on the 11/20/2020, David Spain did proclaim ...
Radio astronomers make for bad civil engineers appearently. It was just a few short months ago that we were reading that new cables would be installed in an attempt to repair the telescope. Now with an additional cable break it has become too unstable to safely repair. They hired three different consulting firms, and had new cables on order. The last break was clearly at a load well below spec, which means the other cables can't be trusted. Please read more carefully. /dps -- Killing a mouse was hardly a Nobel Prize-worthy exercise, and Lawrence went apopleptic when he learned a lousy rodent had peed away all his precious heavy water. _The Disappearing Spoon_, Sam Kean |
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Snidely writes:
Lo, on the 11/20/2020, David Spain did proclaim ... Radio astronomers make for bad civil engineers appearently. It was just a few short months ago that we were reading that new cables would be installed in an attempt to repair the telescope. Now with an additional cable break it has become too unstable to safely repair. They hired three different consulting firms, and had new cables on order. The last break was clearly at a load well below spec, which means the other cables can't be trusted. Please read more carefully. /dps Read what? I've seen no cites. Did you post something earlier I may have missed? Dave |
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David Spain writes:
Snidely writes: Lo, on the 11/20/2020, David Spain did proclaim ... Radio astronomers make for bad civil engineers appearently. It was just a few short months ago that we were reading that new cables would be installed in an attempt to repair the telescope. Now with an additional cable break it has become too unstable to safely repair. They hired three different consulting firms, and had new cables on order. The last break was clearly at a load well below spec, which means the other cables can't be trusted. Please read more carefully. /dps Read what? I've seen no cites. Did you post something earlier I may have missed? Dave Aha I did miss it, sorry: Ha ha. "But despite a long history of scientific contributions, the observatory has been struggling for funding for over a decade" URL:https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/11/famed-arecibo-observatory-to-be-decommissioned-in-wake-of-cable-breaks/ /dps David |
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