kill all the stupid people

Janithor wrote:
:
:I think an argument could
:be made that it started with the right wing's obsession with Clinton.
:

I think an argument could be made that it started with the left wing's
obsession with Reagan.

:
:But I simultaneously absolutely love and absolutely hate Bush, so what
:do I know?
:

Not much, except to mature sufficiently to differentiate between
hating a person and disagreeing with their ideas, beliefs, or actions.


--
"So many women. So little charm."
-- Donna, to Josh; The West Wing

On 10/27/07 1:09 AM, in article
, "Mentally Sub-Normal"
wrote:

On 26 Oct, 22:58, "Jane" wrote:
"cal" wrote in message

...





On 10/24/07 8:08 PM, in article
, "Jane"
wrote:

"kT" wrote in message
...
slunky wrote:

_/ Jane wrote \_
No crap. I mean if it's a thread where he can bash the USA which is
ANY
thread he's all over it.

Have you ever seen the episode of South Park where they go to Canada?
and
there's a guy there called Scott? Rowland reminds me of him. "That's
Scott. He's a dick."

Rational dicks everywhere want to know how you irrational dicks are
going
to pay for the ****ing mess you've created :

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

More oil wars, I suppose.

"I" didn't create anything, I didn't vote for him and neither did
millions
of other American's, why don't you direct your angst at Bush and ask him
that rather then generalizing?

it's a concept that probably originated in a time when monarchs were
referred to as their nations in diplomatic discourse. the british monarch
would be called "england", the french monarch would be "france", and so
on.
in this sense, bush is "the united states". regardless of who did or
didn't
vote for him, he currently represents the american national will outside
your borders for the simple reason that he's empowered to do so and no one
else is.

what a lot of americans don't seem to get is that as far as anyone living
outside the country is concerned, bush IS america. he's not the individual
americans we know... for example, i know *you didn't personally create
what
his administration has created... but the individual exceptions are going
to
have to stand up and be counted by the world, one american at a time, or
be
taken to aquiesce to what your twice-elected leader has done.

It's so frustrating really... The American's

The American's what? That makes no sense as you have used a possessive
apostrophe. Oh, wait, you meant 'Americans', didn't you? Plurals don't
require apostrophes, you ignorant and illiterate bint.


Sarah

"and what's all this nonsense i keep hearing
about violins on TV?"
-- emily litella

Rowland McDonnell wrote:
For your information: while the USA has on two occasions helped Britain
defeat an enemy in Europe, the USA has never `supervised' Europe in any
way shape or form.

Unless one wishes to define the isolated U.S. participation in those
wars as a form of supervision, that is largely correct. Actually,
though, I remember reading claims that it was the U.S. that pushed
European countries into creating the EC.

Canada is in
consequence a civilised, grown-up nation now; while the USA is quite the
opposite and not somewhere any sane person would want to live at all.

Canada is indeed a nice, pleasant country to live in. It would be
happier if the French-English dichotomy didn't make it fractious like
Belgium, but one can't have everything. The United States doesn't have
health care that is as good, but it has lower prices and more jobs.

I've explained, the biggest war-monger and supporter of terrorism in the
world today is the USA - the USA has caused more wars and terrrorism
than any other nation going since the end of the Second World War.
Irish terrorism wouldn't have existed without US funding, for example.
Your nation was funding terrorist attacks against *ME* - I lived in
London during the 1960s-1980s. US sponsored international terrorism has
been one of the scourges of the world since 1945 - the USA has funded
many, many radical left-wing terror groups such as the Provos in Ireland
(revolutionary socialists) and the Viet Cong in SE Asia (full-on
communists).

Not a penny of U.S. taxpayer's money was given to the IRA. It's true
that there are people of Irish descent living in the U.S., and they
may have had a false, romanticised notion of what the IRA terrorists
were up to, but you should really be blaming that on your own
ancestors.

The original US plan for dealing with Europe after WWII was to drive
Germany back to be a subsistence agricultural nation without any
industry. That's hardly a mature response to the issue of re-building
Europe and preventing future wars.

Ah, yes, the Morgenthau plan. I do think it's rather understandable
that there would be some people who would have come to the conclusion
that Germans, if they were capable of supporting Hitler, must be an
eternally cursed people lacking some fundamental element of human
decency - and who must therefore *never* be allowed to get their hands
on the ability to fight a war again.

Someone with a name like Morgenthau might well be one of those people
who is more likely to be one of those people. I find it hard to blame
someone for holding a grudge about the Holocaust.

One decent Yank thought this was
appalling - and he persuaded Marshall to lend his name ta a scheme to
re-build Europe. Not that Britain got any help that way.

Germany got off easily because of the Cold War - but even before that
changed matters, the Morgenthau plan was indeed dropped.

The EU is that secure because the Cold War - a confrontation between the
USSR and USA caused by US paranoia - has ended, and we got to take down
the Iron Curtain which would never have existed if the USA hadn't been
so threatening to the USSR. So now the malign influence of the USA has
been lifted from Europe, we're all sorted.

The Cold War was caused because Stalin was the same sort of brutal
hideous monster as Hitler. As the people of Estonia, Latvia,
Lithuania, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and several other countries will
tell you quite readily.

Had the U.S. not been around to stand up to the USSR, West Germany,
France, and Britain would all have suffered the same fate as Eastern
Europe.

That you fail to realize this, that you fail to realize that you owe
the same kind of gratitude to the U.S. taxpayer in succeeding decades,
to the soldiers who fell in Korea and Vietnam, as you do to those who
fought Hitler in World War II, betrays a profound ignorance on your
own part.

John Savard

"Angelocracy.com" wrote in message
ps.com...
http://angelocracy.blogspot.com/

ANOTHER 'MODEST PROPOSAL

Please don't...... I have just realized, I will be at the top of the list.
--
Mal
Three fifths of the time or more, I am usually wrong.
So am I drunk or what?

On 10/28/07 3:12 AM, in article ,
"Mally" wrote:

"Angelocracy.com" wrote in message
ps.com...
http://angelocracy.blogspot.com/

ANOTHER 'MODEST PROPOSAL

Please don't...... I have just realized, I will be at the top of the list.

how odd. you're stupid, yet you would prefer to live?
we hadn't foreseen this variation.

"cal" wrote in message
...

On 10/28/07 3:12 AM, in article ,
"Mally" wrote:

"Angelocracy.com" wrote in message
ps.com...
http://angelocracy.blogspot.com/

ANOTHER 'MODEST PROPOSAL

Please don't...... I have just realized, I will be at the top of the
list.

how odd. you're stupid, yet you would prefer to live?
we hadn't foreseen this variation.


Ha Ha! Just shows, this good for nothing might just be good for something.
;o)
--
Mal
Three fifths of the time or more, I am usually wrong.
So am I drunk or what?

Janithor wrote:

Rowland McDonnell wrote:

It really is quite amazing - you dismiss criticism of the government on
the grounds that anyone making such criticism is mentally ill!

No, YOU'RE mentally ill. Good luck with that.

Interesting - someone else has a mental health problem unrelated to
yours[1], and you use that as evidence that you do not suffer from
psychosis?

You really should see your doctor soon for your own safety. There are
many drugs available that can help you - or at least keep you under
control and so out of hospital or prison. Please do so, for your own
good.

Rowland.

[1] I suffer from anxiety and depression. Experience shows that the
available drugs are useless for me.

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_/ Rowland McDonnell wrote \_
[1] I suffer from anxiety and depression. Experience shows that the
available drugs are useless for me.

I think maybe your problems are caused by your cognitive distortions,
and wouldn't be helped with medication. Here are a few I've noticed you
have:

Overgeneralization.
Mental Filter.
Jumping to Conclusions.
Magnifications.
Labeling and Mislabeling.

Print out some of your recent posts and bring them to a CBT therapist,
and see what they have to say. Maybe you can get some help.

--
-slunky

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:51:12 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Ivan Marsh wrote:

:On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:47:09 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: "%" wrote:
:
: :
: :"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
: :news : wrote: :
: : :On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:03:23 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote: : :
: : : Tim wrote: : :
: : : Not everyone falls into the conventional VIQ near to PIQ pattern .
: : :
: : : As in 'not everyone is equally bright. : :
: : :You are only proving that you are not bright. : :
: :
: : Keep gulping on that hook, Ivan... :
: : :
: : :Let me give you a real world example. : :
: : :A class of young children were given a test where one of the
: requirements : :was to draw a circle with a line under it. : :
: : :Except for one of the kids all the kids drew a circle then a line
: lower on : :the page... a circle with a line under it. : :
: : :The one kid that didn't do what everyone else did drew a circle with
: two : :lines protruding from a 180 degree angle... a circle with a line
: under it : :represented in three dimensions.
: : :
: : :The kid was moved to a remedial class until someone with half a
: brain : :reviewed the exercise and realized that he was displaying
: spacial : erception far advanced of the rest of the class. : :
: :
: : Let me simply point out that it's not my fault you live in a stupid
: : part of the world. Birds of a feather and all that. :
: : :
: : :In science it's a common mistake to let expectations corrupt the :
: :interpretation of results.
: : :
: :
: : Not in real science, it isn't.
:
:[That's not argument. That's just contradiction...]
:
: :yes it is
: :
:
: No, it isn't.
:
: [That's not argument. That's just contradiction...]
:
:You're suggesting the same argument you made to me isn't valid when
:someone makes it to you.
:
:I restate my assumption regarding the brightness of your bulb.

I suggest you need to go watch some Monty Python's Flying Circus. Look
up "The Argument Sketch".

So, is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

[Do I need to call you an ignorant git at this point?]

It's not my fault you don't know you're in the "getting hit on the head
with a hammer" room.

....everyone here is much smarter than you.

--
I told you this was going to happen.

Ivan Marsh wrote:

:On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:51:12 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: Ivan Marsh wrote:
:
: :On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:47:09 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: :
: : "%" wrote:
: :
: : :
: : :"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
: : :news : : wrote: :
: : : :On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:03:23 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote: : :
: : : : Tim wrote: : :
: : : : Not everyone falls into the conventional VIQ near to PIQ pattern .
: : : :
: : : : As in 'not everyone is equally bright. : :
: : : :You are only proving that you are not bright. : :
: : :
: : : Keep gulping on that hook, Ivan... :
: : : :
: : : :Let me give you a real world example. : :
: : : :A class of young children were given a test where one of the
: : requirements : :was to draw a circle with a line under it. : :
: : : :Except for one of the kids all the kids drew a circle then a line
: : lower on : :the page... a circle with a line under it. : :
: : : :The one kid that didn't do what everyone else did drew a circle with
: : two : :lines protruding from a 180 degree angle... a circle with a line
: : under it : :represented in three dimensions.
: : : :
: : : :The kid was moved to a remedial class until someone with half a
: : brain : :reviewed the exercise and realized that he was displaying
: : spacial : erception far advanced of the rest of the class. : :
: : :
: : : Let me simply point out that it's not my fault you live in a stupid
: : : part of the world. Birds of a feather and all that. :
: : : :
: : : :In science it's a common mistake to let expectations corrupt the :
: : :interpretation of results.
: : : :
: : :
: : : Not in real science, it isn't.
: :
: :[That's not argument. That's just contradiction...]
: :
: : :yes it is
: : :
: :
: : No, it isn't.
: :
: : [That's not argument. That's just contradiction...]
: :
: :You're suggesting the same argument you made to me isn't valid when
: :someone makes it to you.
: :
: :I restate my assumption regarding the brightness of your bulb.
:
: I suggest you need to go watch some Monty Python's Flying Circus. Look
: up "The Argument Sketch".
:
: So, is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
:
: [Do I need to call you an ignorant git at this point?]
:
:It's not my fault you don't know you're in the "getting hit on the head
:with a hammer" room.
:
But it is your fault that you're a cultural illiterate. Hell, even
Rowlie got it...

:
:...everyone here is much smarter than you.
:

Yeah, sure you are. It's just that you're so clever at concealing it.
Yeah, that's the ticket...

You, of course, needn't worry in your hypothetical room, since you're
already dead from the neck up...


--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson