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Old July 15th 07, 02:06 PM posted to alt.astronomy
G=EMC^2 Glazier[_1_]
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Reality is even when humankind is clever enough to have a complete GUT
this question will still go unanswered. Sad but reality bert

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Old July 15th 07, 06:52 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Jul 15, 6:06 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Reality is even when humankind is clever enough to have a complete GUT
this question will still go unanswered.


Hell Bert, a fully framed UFTOE/GUT already exists. It's called the
Unified Field of Spatial Flows. But as long as the entrenched paradigm
of 'no medium' holds sway, of course there can be no GUT. Unification
of gravity will forever remain the "wild card" under the present
doctrine. Any and all attempts at unification will amount to chasing
the rainbow.
One simple adjustment to the sitting paradigm is all
it would take to fix it: replace the "void" with the sub-Planck-
wavelength, energy dense, hyperpressurized Plenum of space.. recognize
it as a compressible/expansible Fluid amenable to *pressure/density
gradients*.
THEN unification of gravity happens as a spinoff and side effect,
unsought and unsolicited, like a friendly dog that trotted in the back
door and sat down smiling. :-) The literal, acting mechanisms whose
*effects* are merely described by SR/GR and QM will be _explained_.

But you're quite right - the answer to the GUT ain't gonna happen
anytime in the foreseeable future. The 'no medium' doctrine is too
powerfully entrenched. oc



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Old July 15th 07, 08:58 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Jul 15, 12:18 pm, "Charles D. Bohne" wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:52:29 -0700, oldcoot

wrote:
The 'no medium' doctrine is too
powerfully entrenched.


Now that we have the dark matter/dark energy background
it wont take too long until they realize that it can all be reduced
to "twists in my sobriety" :-

C.

More like "adding on more epicycles" to fix it. :-)
oc


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Old July 16th 07, 02:16 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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"oldcoot" wrote in message
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On Jul 15, 12:18 pm, "Charles D. Bohne" wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:52:29 -0700, oldcoot

wrote:
The 'no medium' doctrine is too
powerfully entrenched.


Now that we have the dark matter/dark energy background
it wont take too long until they realize that it can all be reduced
to "twists in my sobriety" :-

C.

More like "adding on more epicycles" to fix it. :-)
oc


You could apply the Anthropic Principle and say, "if there nothing existed,
there would be no one around to observe it. It is not surprising we live in
a universe where things exist."

Another way of looking at it is as follows: whenever there is a vacuum,
fluctuations in the energy level occur, due to Heisenberg's Uncertainty
Principle. This leads to the formation of a new Universe. (At least,
according to one account of how the Big Bang happened.)

By the way, Charles, are you a fan of Tanita Tikaram?


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Old July 17th 07, 03:52 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:16:53 +0100, "David Sweeney"
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By the way, Charles, are you a fan of Tanita Tikaram?


Love her music, yes :


Me too. She's a great songwriter, especially that first album, Ancient
Heart. I heard it when it first came out. Seems like yesterday...


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Old July 20th 07, 04:51 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:52:56 +0100, "David Sweeney"
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By the way


Do you happen to be a relative to the English CNN reporter
Fionula S. ?

C.


No, I am not related to her. I think Sweeney is quite a common surname in
Ireland.

But glad you like Tanita Tikaram. It certainly brings back the old memories.
Tomorrow, maybe I will root out that old album and listen to it again. I
remember "Good Tradition of Love and Hate", a wonderfully ironic comment
about family realtionships...


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Old July 21st 07, 01:45 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:51:56 +0100, "David Sweeney"
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English CNN reporter
Fionula S. ?


No, I am not related to her. I think Sweeney is quite a common surname in
Ireland.

oops ... you mean she's Irish :-, too? Sorry for my mistake ;-))


Oh, no need to apologise at all.

But glad you like Tanita Tikaram. It certainly brings back the old
memories.
Tomorrow, maybe I will root out that old album and listen to it again. I
remember "Good Tradition of Love and Hate", a wonderfully ironic comment
about family realtionships...


Yes, I will file through my old records and look what I have.

As to "family" and "relationships" .. I belong to a huge clan .. but I
am so happy never to meet anyone of them in person ;-

C.


Oh right, yeah! Families can be difficult, but deep down, they're the ones
that really love you, I guess. I only ever see my mother these days. My more
distant relatives are people like great uncles and second cousins, and
cousins once removed... I hardly ever see these people! It's like years
between the times when we meet! The whole family only gets together for
weddings and funerals.


 




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