X-43A flight delayed.

Okay, we've got X-33, X-34, X-37, X-38, and X-43 that've either failed or
had big-time problems. Were there any X-type space-related projects during
the Clinton era that succeeded?

Only DC-X. Damn Clinton for pushing and signing into law the "Make
Aeronautical Engineering Really Difficult For Big Stupid Bureaucracies" Act of
1993! Damn him! And how did he find the time while getting all those blow jobs
in the Oval Office?

Now George W. Bush, with the "Christian Nutballs and Big Business In Orbit"
initiative, will truly open up the heavens, from which real Americans can look
down upon liberals, gays, eco-nazis, and other traitorous losers left squirming
on the filthy Earth.

:_

Okay, we've got X-33, X-34, X-37, X-38, and X-43 that've either failed or
had big-time problems. Were there any X-type space-related projects during
the Clinton era that succeeded?

Only DC-X. Damn Clinton for pushing and signing into law the "Make Aeronautical
Engineering Really Difficult For Big Stupid Bureaucracies" Act of 1993! Damn him!
And how did he find the time while having all that sex in the Oval Office?

George W. Bush, in contrast, has had plenty of time to develop the "Christian
Nutballs and Big Business In Orbit" initiative. This will truly open up the
heavens, from which real Americans can look down upon liberals, gays, eco-nazis,
the National League, and other traitorous losers left squirming on the filthy
Earth.

:_

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DC-X

Wasn't that really Bush 41? Clinton initiating a "Star Wars" program,
I doubt it.

Brian

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DC-X

Wasn't that really Bush 41? Clinton initiating a "Star Wars" program,
I doubt it.

Brian


Star Wars? Do you actually know what DC-X was?

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DC-X

Wasn't that really Bush 41? Clinton initiating a "Star Wars" program,
I doubt it.

Star Wars? Do you actually know what DC-X was?

A low-altitude SSTO technology demonstrator by SDIO. SDI was commonly
nicknamed "Star Wars" by its detractors. DC-X was initiated in 1990 during
Bush-41's administration, but flew under Clinton's.


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On 17 Feb 2004 20:57:33 -0800, (Explorer8939)
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DC-X

Wasn't that really Bush 41? Clinton initiating a "Star Wars" program,
I doubt it.

Star Wars? Do you actually know what DC-X was?

A low-altitude SSTO technology demonstrator by SDIO. SDI was commonly
nicknamed "Star Wars" by its detractors. DC-X was initiated in 1990 during
Bush-41's administration, but flew under Clinton's.


Well yeah, but it had nothing to do with weapons systems.

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On 17 Feb 2004 20:57:33 -0800, (Explorer8939)
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DC-X

Wasn't that really Bush 41? Clinton initiating a "Star Wars" program,
I doubt it.

Star Wars? Do you actually know what DC-X was?

A low-altitude SSTO technology demonstrator by SDIO. SDI was commonly
nicknamed "Star Wars" by its detractors. DC-X was initiated in 1990
during
Bush-41's administration, but flew under Clinton's.


Well yeah, but it had nothing to do with weapons systems.

I admit I came in late on this thread. I was a DC-X program fan, even
though it was clear the program was doomed from the start. It never had
enough funding or support from the establishment. A simple SSTO vehicle
blew way too far against the prevailing winds. I believe that, given the
chance, the program could have continued into the DC-Y phase orbital
demonstrator. Would the program have ever led to a vehicle that could put
payload into orbit? There's no way to know without doing it again.

I haven't checked lately, but I think this link is still good for those of
you into nostalgia:

http://media.armadilloaerospace.com/DCX/


Dosco

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DC-X

Wasn't that really Bush 41? Clinton initiating a "Star Wars"
program, I doubt it.

Star Wars? Do you actually know what DC-X was?

A low-altitude SSTO technology demonstrator by SDIO. SDI was commonly
nicknamed "Star Wars" by its detractors. DC-X was initiated in 1990
during Bush-41's administration, but flew under Clinton's.

Well yeah, but it had nothing to do with weapons systems.

Quite the contrary - while not a weapons system itself, a high-flight-rate
reusable SSTO was considered a good way to deploy a space-based weapons
system. Hence DC-X. Don't let your nostalgia for DC-X cloud your judgment
about its origins. It never would have been funded in the first place
without the need for an affordable deployment method for the space-based
components of SDI. The fact that (as with the V-2) some proponents of DC-X
saw non-military applications for it does not change its essential nature.


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Well yeah, but it had nothing to do with weapons systems.

The DC-X program with its planned but never carried out DC-Y and DC-1
follow-ons were envisioned to launch those weapons systems. I think calling
it a "Star Wars" program since it originally came out of SDIO is a fair
assessment.

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Well yeah, but it had nothing to do with weapons systems.

The DC-X program with its planned but never carried out DC-Y and DC-1
follow-ons were envisioned to launch those weapons systems. I think
calling
it a "Star Wars" program since it originally came out of SDIO is a fair
assessment.


DC-X was a McDonnell Douglas program. It's true that the funding came from
SDIO, but only because the NASA powers of the time didn't think the program
could get anywhere. Gen. Graham convinced the white house otherwise and so
funding was pulled out of the SDIO budget to fund DC-X. Does that make it a
"star wars" program? Define it however you like. DC-X was a ******* child
that no one but the project team from McDonnell Douglas wanted to
acknowledge.

Dosco