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Even on earth, jet stream can go over 200mph according to websites.
I was under the impression that 300mph winds were rather common, but perhaps they are during storm only. And much less damping affect since upper atmosphere is thin and so close to ground than earth. "David Knisely" wrote in message ... onegod wrote: With 300mph winds and space suit, I doubt you can hear 10' though of course they will be connected by radio. Well, I'm afraid that 300 mph is probably a little on the high side for Mars. The fastest wind gust speed ever recorded on Mars (during a global dust storm from the Viking-1 lander) was on the order of 30 meters per second (about 67 mph), and dust storm motion has been measured at around 32 meters per second (72 mph). While there may be wind speeds which exceed this, it is fairly probable that the maximum wind speed on Mars is something less than 100 mph. Clear skies to you. -- David W. Knisely Prairie Astronomy Club: http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/ ********************************************** * Attend the 11th Annual NEBRASKA STAR PARTY * * July 18-23, 2004, Merritt Reservoir * * http://www.NebraskaStarParty.org * ********************************************** |
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From Ody:
And the propagation speed! How fast would you have to go to create a sonic boom in the conditions prevailing on the Martian altitude datum? Well, considering the atmospheric density at Martian datum is equivalent to around 120,000 feet on Earth, would not the speed of sound be diminished accordingly, to around 610 mph? Here's a coupla more neat sites- www.planetary.org/learn/MarsMic/MarsMic.html http://css.ca/marsaviation.htm oc |
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onegod wrote:
Even on earth, jet stream can go over 200mph according to websites. I was under the impression that 300mph winds were rather common, but perhaps they are during storm only. And much less damping affect since upper atmosphere is thin and so close to ground than earth. Well, the 300 mph figure probably came from an old source estimate, as for a while we didn't know exactly how fine the Martian dust was (ie: it took a lot of wind to raise coarse-grained dust and not much to raise fine dust). It ended up taking a lot less wind speed to raise and move the finer dust of Mars needed for a dust storm, so once we got surface measurements, it was clear that the high wind speed estimates made earlier were way too high. Even at the heights of a major dust storm, the wind speeds are unlikely to significantly exceed 100 mph. With the much lower solar insolation, it is unlikely even the Martian jet streams are much faster than this. Clear skies to you. -- David W. Knisely Prairie Astronomy Club: http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/ ********************************************** * Attend the 11th Annual NEBRASKA STAR PARTY * * July 18-23, 2004, Merritt Reservoir * * http://www.NebraskaStarParty.org * ********************************************** |
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Hi oc We seem to have recieved weather information daily from the
Viking 2 lander(1980) and the Viking 1 (1982) wind speed of 20mph were common. Have read oc dust storms of 200 mph on Mars,but don't believe it. As you know my thinking is anyone can write a book. Changes in temp. get our air moving,and Mars having such a big temp. change from night and day light,this must be what gives Mars atmosphere its motion. I even have a thought that the sand,and dust storms are low and kind of skips along close to Mars surface. My reason for this thought is close to the surface Mars might have more atmospheric density to add some bouyancy to the fine dust particles. Bert PS Maybe sand and dust could be said to be surfing |
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Even in earth, fine dust from major euruptions to go to high atmosphere and
can cause ice age. "G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message ... Hi oc We seem to have recieved weather information daily from the Viking 2 lander(1980) and the Viking 1 (1982) wind speed of 20mph were common. Have read oc dust storms of 200 mph on Mars,but don't believe it. As you know my thinking is anyone can write a book. Changes in temp. get our air moving,and Mars having such a big temp. change from night and day light,this must be what gives Mars atmosphere its motion. I even have a thought that the sand,and dust storms are low and kind of skips along close to Mars surface. My reason for this thought is close to the surface Mars might have more atmospheric density to add some bouyancy to the fine dust particles. Bert PS Maybe sand and dust could be said to be surfing |
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