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Old October 5th 14, 09:09 AM
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Default 2 NGC and 2 vdB nebula 3 in all

NGC 2245 (near center) and NGC 2247 are a pair of reflection nebulae in Monocerous not far from many more famous larger nebulae such as the emission Cone Nebula and mostly reflection Fox Fur nebula as well as some Barnard dark Nebulae. The distance to these seems rather vague. Most put it near the outer edge of the Orion Arm which would be about 3000 light-years. But, I always seem to run into "buts", NGC 2247 is also vdB 82 whose illuminating star is HD 259431 a B6 star that Hipparcos puts at 945 light-years. Then there's 2245. What's its illuminating star. Is it the very bright HD 46265 just to its northeast side? Probably not as it is a K0 star at nearly 6000 light years. More likely it is the variable star V699 Orionis at the north end of the brightest part of the nebula. It is an 11 magnitude B6 star. However I have no distance estimate for it. Seen by the 2MASS survey it is the brightest of a small group of stars, the others being seen best in IR light hidden behind all the dust of NGC 2245 and likely having formed out of it. Some however are barely visible in my image.

NGC 2245 has some H alpha emission but it was too weak for me to pick up as my camera is not great for that frequency and conditions for this one were poor with red getting hurt the most. In fact this one is a jinx for me. I got the luminance data nearly two years ago but clouds moved in ruining color data. Two more tries that season failed to get usable color frames, then 2013 was also a bust for the color data. Finally at the very end of February I got another chance for the color data but saving red to last it got hit by fog rolling in and is weak. After three years of trying I gave up and used what that February night gave me, not much.

The reflection nebula vdB 79 in the upper right corner is apparently lit by HD 258973 an A2 star. I say apparently because the star is only 54 light-years away so not likely the illuminating source if this nebula is part of the same complex as NGC 2245 and 2247. Van den Berg listed his nebulae using the bright star nearest it without confirming if it really was the illumination source as best I can tell. So is vdB 79 a near by object or part of the entire complex of which the two NGC objects are a small part? I don't know.

SpaceBanter managed to delete this post for some reason. Reposting it.

The annotated image has a question mark by an orange object above center. I couldn't find it anyplace. I have no idea what it is. It's located on the edge of the dark nebula DOBASHI 4723 and seems to have two rays to the southeast. I can't find any cataloged object within even one minute of arc of its position 6h 32m 61.6s +10° 17' 35".

As is often the case I seem to have found more questions than I answered with this one, especially as to how far these three objects are from us.

This marks the last of data collected in February. March had even worse weather than February so I only got 16 objects in March compared to 25 in shorter February.

14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10' RGB=2x10' (poor especially red), STL-11000XM, Paramount ME

Rick
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Old October 11th 14, 09:50 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.astro
Stefan Lilge
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Default 2 NGC and 2 vdB nebula 3 in all

These two look like a very worthwhile target. Maybe this winter?

Stefan


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NGC 2245 (near center) and NGC 2247 are a pair of reflection nebulae in
Monocerous not far from many more famous larger nebulae such as the
emission Cone Nebula and mostly reflection Fox Fur nebula as well as
some Barnard dark Nebulae. The distance to these seems rather vague.
Most put it near the outer edge of the Orion Arm which would be about
3000 light-years. But, I always seem to run into "buts", NGC 2247 is
also vdB 82 whose illuminating star is HD 259431 a B6 star that
Hipparcos puts at 945 light-years. Then there's 2245. What's its
illuminating star. Is it the very bright HD 46265 just to its northeast
side? Probably not as it is a K0 star at nearly 6000 light years. More
likely it is the variable star V699 Orionis at the north end of the
brightest part of the nebula. It is an 11 magnitude B6 star. However I
have no distance estimate for it. Seen by the 2MASS survey it is the
brightest of a small group of stars, the others being seen best in IR
light hidden behind all the dust of NGC 2245 and likely having formed
out of it. Some however are barely visible in my image.

NGC 2245 has some H alpha emission but it was too weak for me to pick up
as my camera is not great for that frequency and conditions for this one
were poor with red getting hurt the most. In fact this one is a jinx
for me. I got the luminance data nearly two years ago but clouds moved
in ruining color data. Two more tries that season failed to get usable
color frames, then 2013 was also a bust for the color data. Finally at
the very end of February I got another chance for the color data but
saving red to last it got hit by fog rolling in and is weak. After
three years of trying I gave up and used what that February night gave
me, not much.

The reflection nebula vdB 79 in the upper right corner is apparently lit
by HD 258973 an A2 star. I say apparently because the star is only 54
light-years away so not likely the illuminating source if this nebula is
part of the same complex as NGC 2245 and 2247. Van den Berg listed his
nebulae using the bright star nearest it without confirming if it really
was the illumination source as best I can tell. So is vdB 79 a near by
object or part of the entire complex of which the two NGC objects are a
small part? I don't know.

SpaceBanter managed to delete this post for some reason. Reposting it.

The annotated image has a question mark by an orange object above
center. I couldn't find it anyplace. I have no idea what it is. It's
located on the edge of the dark nebula DOBASHI 4723 and seems to have
two rays to the southeast. I can't find any cataloged object within
even one minute of arc of its position 6h 32m 61.6s +10° 17' 35".

As is often the case I seem to have found more questions than I answered
with this one, especially as to how far these three objects are from
us.

This marks the last of data collected in February. March had even worse
weather than February so I only got 16 objects in March compared to 25
in shorter February.

14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10' RGB=2x10' (poor especially red), STL-11000XM,
Paramount ME

Rick


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