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Old January 31st 13, 06:16 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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"We have seen many concepts, but this
is the most realistic plan yet for humanity's
first Moon Base. It will be more efficient
and cheaper to build than any other
alternative, as it uses 3D printing to quickly
transform raw lunar soil into habitable
domes.

Also? It looks awesome.

The lunar soil structure will provide both
radiation and temperature insulation. Inside,
a lightweight pressurized inflatable with the
same dome shape will be the living
environment for the first human Moon
settlers."

See:

http://gizmodo.com/5980534/this-is-w...ally-look-like
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Old January 31st 13, 08:39 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:16:30 AM UTC-8, wrote:
"We have seen many concepts, but this

is the most realistic plan yet for humanity's

first Moon Base. It will be more efficient

and cheaper to build than any other

alternative, as it uses 3D printing to quickly

transform raw lunar soil into habitable

domes.



Also? It looks awesome.



The lunar soil structure will provide both

radiation and temperature insulation. Inside,

a lightweight pressurized inflatable with the

same dome shape will be the living

environment for the first human Moon

settlers."



See:



http://gizmodo.com/5980534/this-is-w...ally-look-like


Soil? It looks more like compacted gravel and rocks. Short of a good
sized backhoe, I'd be concerned about the difficulty of working with
this material. It might need to be screened prior to use as well.
And a dump truck as well.

The camp is either robotics on the surface or somewhat irradiated
spam in can on the surface.

Though if it possible to get a the ice, it might be possible to use
it in the inflatable wall as shielding. So the site will be at the
poles. Mining ice would also require some sort of infrastructure.
Mirrors, glass, plastic to trap the water baked out of the crater
materials. This sounds really hard as well.

Even Mars is more welcoming.....................Trig
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Old February 1st 13, 03:43 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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This Is Lunarcrete, a Building Block for Moon Colonies:

"Lunarcrete is a mixture similar to concrete that could be created
using the
loose layer of dust and rock covering the surface of the moon.
Creating
structures from lunarcrete will be one of the keys to cutting
colonization
costs and increasing self sufficiency of colonies. Terrestrial
experiments
show that creating a concrete-like substance from lunar rock is
possible,
but is it practical?"

See:

http://io9.com/5908831/this-is-lunar...?tag=moon-base
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Old February 1st 13, 08:55 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jan 31, 10:16*am, wrote:
"We have seen many concepts, but this
is the most realistic plan yet for humanity's
first Moon Base. It will be more efficient
and cheaper to build than any other
alternative, as it uses 3D printing to quickly
transform raw lunar soil into habitable
domes.

Also? It looks awesome.

The lunar soil structure will provide both
radiation and temperature insulation. Inside,
a lightweight pressurized inflatable with the
same dome shape will be the living
environment for the first human Moon
settlers."

See:

http://gizmodo.com/5980534/this-is-w...-base-could-re...


Why not 99.9% underground?

Are you suggesting that TBMs can't function inside of our moon?
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Old February 1st 13, 09:27 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:55:22 PM UTC-8, Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:16*am, wrote:

"We have seen many concepts, but this


is the most realistic plan yet for humanity's


first Moon Base. It will be more efficient


and cheaper to build than any other


alternative, as it uses 3D printing to quickly


transform raw lunar soil into habitable


domes.




Also? It looks awesome.




The lunar soil structure will provide both


radiation and temperature insulation. Inside,


a lightweight pressurized inflatable with the


same dome shape will be the living


environment for the first human Moon


settlers."




See:




http://gizmodo.com/5980534/this-is-w...-base-could-re....




Why not 99.9% underground?



Are you suggesting that TBMs can't function inside of our moon?


Underground is best on the moon. In case of fast flying fragments
from incoming, I'd want to be fully underground in my lined habitat.
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Old February 6th 13, 08:14 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On 31/01/2013 23:16, wrote:
"We have seen many concepts, but this
is the most realistic plan yet for humanity's
first Moon Base. It will be more efficient
and cheaper to build than any other
alternative, as it uses 3D printing to quickly
transform raw lunar soil into habitable
domes.

Also? It looks awesome.

The lunar soil structure will provide both
radiation and temperature insulation. Inside,
a lightweight pressurized inflatable with the
same dome shape will be the living
environment for the first human Moon
settlers."

See:

http://gizmodo.com/5980534/this-is-w...ally-look-like


Can't see how this is so much better than just piling lunar soil -
regolith - on top of a habitat with a small bulldozer. For the added
complexity of 3D printing it sure better provide significantly better
"radiation & temp" insulation than a quickly thrown together regolith
covering.

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T
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Old February 7th 13, 12:22 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Feb 1, 1:27*pm, Nun Giver wrote:
On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:55:22 PM UTC-8, Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:16*am, wrote:


"We have seen many concepts, but this


is the most realistic plan yet for humanity's


first Moon Base. It will be more efficient


and cheaper to build than any other


alternative, as it uses 3D printing to quickly


transform raw lunar soil into habitable


domes.


Also? It looks awesome.


The lunar soil structure will provide both


radiation and temperature insulation. Inside,


a lightweight pressurized inflatable with the


same dome shape will be the living


environment for the first human Moon


settlers."


See:


http://gizmodo.com/5980534/this-is-w...-base-could-re....


Why not 99.9% underground?


Are you suggesting that TBMs can't function inside of our moon?


Underground is best on the moon. In case of fast flying fragments
from incoming, I'd want to be fully underground in my lined habitat.


TBMs are already designed for digging into the moon. These TBMs are
even becoming mostly robotic.

Nothing about our moon is insurmountable, at least once we have those
actual fly-by-rocket landers we can trust to get 60+ tonnes safely to/
from our moon.
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Old February 7th 13, 11:49 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Feb 6, 7:22*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 1, 1:27*pm, Nun Giver wrote:





On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:55:22 PM UTC-8, Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:16*am, wrote:


"We have seen many concepts, but this


is the most realistic plan yet for humanity's


first Moon Base. It will be more efficient


and cheaper to build than any other


alternative, as it uses 3D printing to quickly


transform raw lunar soil into habitable


domes.


Also? It looks awesome.


The lunar soil structure will provide both


radiation and temperature insulation. Inside,


a lightweight pressurized inflatable with the


same dome shape will be the living


environment for the first human Moon


settlers."


See:


http://gizmodo.com/5980534/this-is-w...-base-could-re...


Why not 99.9% underground?


Are you suggesting that TBMs can't function inside of our moon?


Underground is best on the moon. In case of fast flying fragments
from incoming, I'd want to be fully underground in my lined habitat.


TBMs are already designed for digging into the moon. *These TBMs are
even becoming mostly robotic.

Nothing about our moon is insurmountable, at least once we have those
actual fly-by-rocket landers we can trust to get 60+ tonnes safely to/
from our moon.


TBMs require continious service by crews of highly skilled workers
continiously servicing the machines and conveyors to get the drilled
waste out of the hole

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Old February 7th 13, 07:17 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Feb 7, 3:49*am, bob haller wrote:
On Feb 6, 7:22*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Feb 1, 1:27*pm, Nun Giver wrote:


On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:55:22 PM UTC-8, Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:16*am, wrote:


"We have seen many concepts, but this


is the most realistic plan yet for humanity's


first Moon Base. It will be more efficient


and cheaper to build than any other


alternative, as it uses 3D printing to quickly


transform raw lunar soil into habitable


domes.


Also? It looks awesome.


The lunar soil structure will provide both


radiation and temperature insulation. Inside,


a lightweight pressurized inflatable with the


same dome shape will be the living


environment for the first human Moon


settlers."


See:


http://gizmodo.com/5980534/this-is-w...-base-could-re...


Why not 99.9% underground?


Are you suggesting that TBMs can't function inside of our moon?


Underground is best on the moon. In case of fast flying fragments
from incoming, I'd want to be fully underground in my lined habitat.


TBMs are already designed for digging into the moon. *These TBMs are
even becoming mostly robotic.


Nothing about our moon is insurmountable, at least once we have those
actual fly-by-rocket landers we can trust to get 60+ tonnes safely to/
from our moon.


TBMs require continious service by crews of highly skilled workers
continiously servicing the machines and conveyors to get the drilled
waste out of the hole


Robotic TBMs can dig for up to a km before needing attention, though
not that a service crew couldn't be there as well because, our NASA/
Apollo era proved how inert and passive the moon actually is, as well
as how 100% failsafe their fly-by-rocket lander were.

A 1 km tunnel cut into the paramagnetic basalt crust of our moon is a
pretty good start, especially once the tunnel airlock is established.

Why are you opposed to exploiting our moon?
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Old February 7th 13, 10:14 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Feb 7, 2:17*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 7, 3:49*am, bob haller wrote:





On Feb 6, 7:22*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Feb 1, 1:27*pm, Nun Giver wrote:


On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:55:22 PM UTC-8, Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:16*am, wrote:


"We have seen many concepts, but this


is the most realistic plan yet for humanity's


first Moon Base. It will be more efficient


and cheaper to build than any other


alternative, as it uses 3D printing to quickly


transform raw lunar soil into habitable


domes.


Also? It looks awesome.


The lunar soil structure will provide both


radiation and temperature insulation. Inside,


a lightweight pressurized inflatable with the


same dome shape will be the living


environment for the first human Moon


settlers."


See:


http://gizmodo.com/5980534/this-is-w...-base-could-re...


Why not 99.9% underground?


Are you suggesting that TBMs can't function inside of our moon?


Underground is best on the moon. In case of fast flying fragments
from incoming, I'd want to be fully underground in my lined habitat..


TBMs are already designed for digging into the moon. *These TBMs are
even becoming mostly robotic.


Nothing about our moon is insurmountable, at least once we have those
actual fly-by-rocket landers we can trust to get 60+ tonnes safely to/
from our moon.


TBMs require continious service by crews of highly skilled workers
continiously servicing the machines and conveyors to get the drilled
waste out of the hole


Robotic TBMs can dig for up to a km before needing attention, though
not that a service crew couldn't be there as well because, our NASA/
Apollo era proved how inert and passive the moon actually is, as well
as how 100% failsafe their fly-by-rocket lander were.

A 1 km tunnel cut into the paramagnetic basalt crust of our moon is a
pretty good start, especially once the tunnel airlock is established.

Why are you opposed to exploiting our moon?


TBS are not practical.

Far bettern to cut and cover. easy access, elminates the TBM
altogether.

plus TBMs dont tunnel well in loose or non consolidated soil. Since
the moon had no water the crust probably isnt consolidated.

why make a easy job hard? open pit minining or cut and cover
 




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