Global warming?

On Jan 12, 12:14*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Jan 11, 6:16*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

Well actually a sun shield should be researched, i suggested using
venus for experimenting, since we cant really do any damage

But nobody listens to you seriously because you're an idiot.

http://ncadac.globalchange.gov/

What does any of that have to do with your absolutely idiotic
suggestion of "using venus for experimenting"?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn

by attempting to cool venus at least a little like using sun shading
of some type we may learn a little about cooling our good earth,
without risking bad effects on earth....

venus can be a test bed.

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...
bob haller wrote:

How many now believe its occuring?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2433210.html

Presumably everyone who is ignorant enough to believe that one data
point makes a trend.


But of course a maximum isn't just another data point~
And extremes in weather, either way, is evidence for
the theory of global warming.



--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

On Jan 12, 5:08*am, bob haller wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:14*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:









bob haller wrote:
On Jan 11, 6:16*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

Well actually a sun shield should be researched, i suggested using
venus for experimenting, since we cant really do any damage

But nobody listens to you seriously because you're an idiot.

http://ncadac.globalchange.gov/

What does any of that have to do with your absolutely idiotic
suggestion of "using venus for experimenting"?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn

by attempting to cool venus at least a little like using sun shading
of some type we may learn a little about cooling our good earth,
without risking bad effects on earth....

venus can be a test bed.

The test could also be performed on our physically dark moon, as per
having set up a reflective shade of a few km worth of inflated or spin
deployed diameter over a small test crater area, whereas blocking out
that pesky sunlight from directly heating any given surface deployed
weather station below the thin mylar starshade should more than do the
trick. Actually, using an available supercomputer for running valid
simulations should get those exact same results within +/-0.1%,
especially since the upwelling of Venus geothermal heating would need
to get factored in, along with the thermally conductive atmosphere
that's always flowing through.

Don't forget that Venus has thousands of active volcanic and/or
geothermal vents taking place at any given time.

On Jan 12, 4:35*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"jonathan" wrote:

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
.. .
bob haller wrote:

How many now believe its occuring?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ear-on-record_....

Presumably everyone who is ignorant enough to believe that one data
point makes a trend.

But of course a maximum isn't just another data point~

Well, yes, it *IS* just another data point.



And extremes in weather, either way, is evidence for
the theory of global warming.

And so, apparently, is non-extreme weather. *That's what's wrong with
your approach to this issue. *No matter WHAT happens, it's 'evidence'
you claim supports you.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
*truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson

worldwide scientists are beging to admit gobal warming is not only
occuring but dangerous

On Jan 12, 2:18*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Jan 12, 4:35*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:









"jonathan" wrote:

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
.. .
bob haller wrote:

How many now believe its occuring?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ear-on-record_...

Presumably everyone who is ignorant enough to believe that one data
point makes a trend.

But of course a maximum isn't just another data point~

Well, yes, it *IS* just another data point.

And extremes in weather, either way, is evidence for
the theory of global warming.

And so, apparently, is non-extreme weather. *That's what's wrong with
your approach to this issue. *No matter WHAT happens, it's 'evidence'
you claim supports you.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
*truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson

worldwide scientists are beging to admit gobal warming is not only
occuring but dangerous

Oligarch ZNRs and FUD-masters like our Fred, really do not give a
flying puck.

On Jan 12, 10:02*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Jan 12, 4:35 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"jonathan" wrote:

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
.. .
bob haller wrote:

How many now believe its occuring?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ear-on-record_...

Presumably everyone who is ignorant enough to believe that one data
point makes a trend.

But of course a maximum isn't just another data point~

Well, yes, it *IS* just another data point.

And extremes in weather, either way, is evidence for
the theory of global warming.

And so, apparently, is non-extreme weather. That's what's wrong with
your approach to this issue. No matter WHAT happens, it's 'evidence'
you claim supports you.

worldwide scientists are beging to admit gobal warming is not only
occuring but dangerous

And other scientists are disagreeing. *And NONE of them are spouting
the load of meadow muffins that you put out.

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

more scientists are agreeing that global warming is a reality

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...

Well, no. Not the way you mean it. Most scientists agree that
CLIMATE CHANGE is real, but then that's been sort of obvious for as
long as I can remember. There is less agreement on just what it's
doing, what's driving it, etc.


So I suppose the fact that climate change and the
industrial age happened at the same time is
just some big mysterious coincidence?

'Bout as mysterious as leaving the gas on and
later the house explodes.




But I know you won't let reality (or even thought) intrude on your own
little personal world view, Poultry Petite...

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

On Jan 13, 7:58*am, "jonathan" wrote:
"Fred J. McCall" wrote in messagenews:a8g4f8113c50kc03qq0kd7n0g3nc450ijb@4ax .com...

Well, no. *Not the way you mean it. *Most scientists agree that
CLIMATE CHANGE is real, but then that's been sort of obvious for as
long as I can remember. *There is less agreement on just what it's
doing, what's driving it, etc.

So I suppose the fact that climate change and the
industrial age happened at the same time is
just some big mysterious coincidence?

'Bout as mysterious as leaving the gas on and
later the house explodes.



anyone with a aquarium knows that too many fish equal poor health and
death to the inhabitants

our world may have too many people and definetely too much pollution,
but fred wouldnt admit this till he is starving, which is a possiblity
given the continued drught in over 66% of our country.

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...
"jonathan" wrote:

Presumably everyone who is ignorant enough to believe that one data
point makes a trend.



But of course a maximum isn't just another data point~



Well, yes, it *IS* just another data point.



No it isn't~




And extremes in weather, either way, is evidence for
the theory of global warming.


And so, apparently, is non-extreme weather. That's what's wrong with
your approach to this issue. No matter WHAT happens, it's 'evidence'
you claim supports you.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

On Jan 13, 2:10*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"jonathan" wrote:

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
.. .
"jonathan" wrote:

Presumably everyone who is ignorant enough to believe that one data
point makes a trend.

But of course a maximum isn't just another data point~

Well, yes, it *IS* just another data point.

No it isn't~

So what is it, then, Jonathan? *Do you know ANYTHING about analyzing
data? *It seems not, if you think some points are 'special'...

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
*truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson

Fred, its interesting to note you disagree with so many nasa and other
scientists.

You believe you are much smarter than you really are