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Old May 18th 12, 01:55 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,uk.sci.misc,alt.journalism
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Default Retrograde orbits are now approved (what could possibly go wrong?)

On May 18, 5:19*am, Dean wrote:
On May 18, 2:15*am, Brad Guth wrote:









On May 17, 8:35*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:


Brad Guth wrote:
On May 16, 7:14*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"ala" wrote:


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Fred, it's like arguing with a brick wall. *Brad seems to think
carbonado (an impure, variable natural material) has uses in
constructing superstrong spaceships. *And as you said, he is confusing
hard with strong. *I wonder if he realizes how easily diamond or
carbonado will cleave or even burn.


good point


cleavage is diamond's inherent property


oops my starship split in two


You can also burn the stuff like coal. *It is, after all, just carbon.


That's very true. *With LOx and any diamond set on fire, it makes for
a terrific source of relatively clean energy. *Imagine if our
physically dark moon were covered in deposits of carbonado, or if its
thick and dense crust of 3.5 g/cm3 was extensively carbonado.


It's 'clean' the way any other lump of coal is 'clean', you ignorant
****.


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*truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson


You burn coal with HTP or pure O2?


Where do all the toxic and carcinogenic impurities in coal go?


How many thousand deaths per year from coal is acceptable to an
oligarch like yourself?


Are you saying that carbonado is going to be as dirty of fuel as coal?


Yes, carbonado is just as dirty. *And far less available.


You obviously don't know what's in coal, or in crude oil or raw
natural gas.

Is all coal the same? (not hardly)

Is all natural gas the same? (not hardly)

btw, have any of you ever done the math as to how many tonnes of
dinosaurs it takes to create one tonne of Bituminous coal or crude
oil?

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Old May 18th 12, 02:03 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,uk.sci.misc,alt.journalism
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On May 18, 5:18*am, Dean wrote:
On May 17, 3:47*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On May 17, 11:30*am, Dean wrote:


On May 17, 1:46*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On May 16, 6:26*pm, "ala" wrote:


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ET carbonado is worth more than collector value.


appraisers often say that the value of what you have is zero.
It's *not worth anything til you've sold it


Sell it and then we'll talk


That's a very good point. *However, what if our moon has extensive
deposits of carbonado, or if its thick and 3.5 g/cm3 dense cruse was
extensively carbonado?


As Fred will even agree, carbonado makes for a terrific fuel, if we
wanted to just burn it.


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It makes for a good fuel in the same sense that coal makes a good
fuel. *But coal is cheap and readily available unlike carbonado. *And
coal, like carbonado is NOT a pure material, it has lots of
contaminants which make it a NOT SO GOOD fuel.


Perhaps on and/or within our physically dark and paramagnetic moon,
carbonado is the norm.


Feed a coal or carbonado fueled furnace or rocket engine with HTP or
just lots of O2, and it's going to burn extremely hot and clean.


No it doesn't. *Neither coal or carbonado is pure. *You cannot burn
clean when you start with impure substances.


You can't get much cleaner than burning diamond and HTP or O2,
although H2+O2 would be extremely clean as long as it was only
consumed within a fuel cell and thus created no NOx.

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Old May 18th 12, 02:04 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,uk.sci.misc,alt.journalism
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On May 18, 12:32*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On May 17, 8:35 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On May 16, 6:26 pm, "ala" wrote:
"Brad Guth" wrote in message


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ET carbonado is worth more than collector value.


appraisers often say that the value of what you have is zero.
It's not worth anything til you've sold it


Sell it and then we'll talk


That's a very good point. However, what if our moon has extensive
deposits of carbonado, or if its thick and 3.5 g/cm3 dense cruse was
extensively carbonado?


As Fred will even agree, carbonado makes for a terrific fuel, if we
wanted to just burn it.


Coal is cheaper and we have thousands of years worth of the stuff
already available.


**** is way cheaper than food, so what's your point?


My point is that only people like you should eat ****, while burning
'carbonado' is no cleaner than burning any other lump of coal.

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Sadly, your **** as per usual is full of FUD.
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Old May 18th 12, 03:36 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,uk.sci.misc,alt.journalism
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Default Retrograde orbits are now approved (what could possibly go wrong?)

On 5/18/2012 8:55 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

btw, have any of you ever done the math as to how many tonnes of
dinosaurs it takes to create one tonne of Bituminous coal or crude
oil?


99% of coal is from plant matter...Not animals. Dummy.

















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