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  #81  
Old June 18th 06, 10:53 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
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Default We Shall Meet Him in the Air


American wrote:
tomcat wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
So, we are dealing with pretty weird, strange, almost magical, stuff
called light. If photons really do have little, tiny mass even
relative to electrons and neutrinos then it 'might' be possible that
photons are the building blocks, not quarks. Or, to put it differently
it 'might' be that photons make up the quarks and, maybe, even the
'strings'. They are strange little things that seem to know when they
are being watched.

Well, I am not claiming to have all of this figured out. But having
this discussion has been enlightening to me and to others I think too.
Art Deco would probably enjoy it too except that his brain is locked in
a box somewhere and can't get out.


tomcat

Art Deco's brain is between his butt-cheeks as having been stuck deeply
within an overflowing space-toilet of incest and bigotry on a stick.
You're just badly snookered and summarily dumbfounded.

BTW; of the photons that we can see don't amount to 0.0000001% of the
photon spectrum. Of the photons we can detect don't amount to 0.1% of
the photon spectrum.
-
Brad Guth




Here, we are agreed on both points except for the possibility that Art
Deco 'has' a brain.

I am discovering more interesting things about those wily photons all
the time. Where does the Cherenkov Radiation come from?

It doesn't come from the FTL particle because that is not the way that
air turns into a burst of pressure when the sound barrier is broken.
So, it is 'probably' photons in the path of the particle that build up
because of the particle's speed, finally breaking loose because they
build up and can't hold on any longer.

Where do all of these 'unlit' photons come from. They must be there
from the beginning, just sitting there 'unlit' doing 'something', but
what?


tomcat


Tomcat:

It seems funny that you are at least on "the right path" as in a
parallel processor of legitimate proportion, and so I digress:
C**2 is a space time distortion, given C = SQRT[(B**2 - A**2)].
However, you are missing the point of the velocity of light
being *variable* (according to spacetime metric curvature).
An example would be at the atomic level, the shape of the
electron cloud as a prolate or rotated oblate spheroid. This
"cloud", as it were, can be resonated along a decompression
axis, while "bottling" the U(1) and SU(2) fields from SU(3).
The vector Helmholtz equation CANNOT BE SOLVED in prolate
spheroidal coordinates, so axial symmetry MUST BE ASSUMED, so
that the VECTOR FIELD can be separated into TRANSVERSE ELECTRIC
and TRANSVERSE MAGNETIC modes.

A covariance function is required to solve for X, using some cal-
culated values for matrices A and B for different locations on
the earth's surface. This function may be stated simply as the
relationship AX + XB = C, for average "ensemble" B, and
[A**T]*[X] + XA = C for instantaneous time T. Each one of A, B,
and C are real matrices of dimensions m x m, n x n, and m x n,
respectively. The range of magnitudes for respective dilations
can be included into the Helmholtz equation for each oblative
condition. The earth's "oblateness" does not vary much for local
translation, but for interstellar space, further investigation
reveals that any hypertranslative distortion that propogates
would require screening out the SU(3) field from the U(1) and
SU(2) fields. The weak force that governs the SU(2) symmetry be-
tween the electron and neutrino is the basis for outward/inward
fractalization of the Schumann Resonance system, drawing in
deltronic activity from the recipricol space reference frame for
intention imprinting.

Thus for the range of oblateness, there are many values of A for
only one value of B, for each dilation of C. For a 1:1 mapping,
this is the same as the aforementioned AX + XB = C equation, with
the exception that the "X" is both a right-handed and left-handed
artifact, each being diametrically orthogonal in their similarity
transformations. Through the use of a cubic reduction algorithm,
one of the "magic windows" for X exists when the infared and
ultraviolet bands being utilized are phase-locked so that the
ultraviolet represents a first harmonic of the infared. Thus we
have a corpuscular screening attached to the H_is monopole.

SUBROUTINE EQUATN(A,U,M,NA,NU,B,V,N,NB,NV,C,NC,ASPE,
1EPSB,LIAR)
REAL
1A(NA,1),U(NU,1),B(NB,1),V(NV,1),C(NC,1),ASPE,BSPE ,TEMP
INTEGER
1M,NA,NU,N,NB,NV,NC,LIAR,M1,MM1,N1,NM1,I,J,K
M1=M+1
MM1=M-1
N1=N+1
NM1=N-1
IF(ASPE.LT.0.)GO TO 35
DO 10 I=1,M
DO 10 J=1,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
10 CONTINUE
CALL ROCKON(A,M,NA)
CALL REVERSR(A,U,M,NA,NU)
IF(MM1.EQ.0)GO TO 25
DO 20 I=1,MM1
A(I+1,I)=A(I,M1)
20 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(A,U,M,NA,NU,ASPE,LIAR)
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
25 DO 30 I=1,M
DO 30 J=I,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
30 CONTINUE
35 IF(BSPE.LT.0.)GO TO 45
CALL ROCKON(B,N,NB)
CALL REVERSR(B,V,N,NB,NV)
IF(NM1.EQ.0)GO TO 45
DO 40 I=1,NM1
B(I+1,I)=B(I,N1)
40 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(B,V,N,NB,NV,BSPE,LIAR)
LIAR=-LIAR
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
45 DO 60 J=1,N
DO 50 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=0.
DO 50 K=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(K,I)*C(K,J)
50 CONTINUE
DO 60 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
60 CONTINUE
DO 80 I=1,M
DO 70 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 70 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(K,J)
70 CONTINUE
DO 80 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
80 CONTINUE
CALL BOMBAT(A,B,C,M,NNA,NB,NC)
DO 100 J=1,N
DO 90 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(I,K)*C(K,J)
90 CONTINUE
DO 100 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
100 CONTINUE
DO 120 I=1,M
DO 110 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 110 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(J,K)
110 CONTINUE
DO 120 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
120 CONTINUE
RETURN
END

Each of the subroutines ROCKON, REVERSR, SLEPIAN, and BOMBAT are
in my possession. There is a far more fundamental neurophysiolog-
ical "origin" of impulsivity than "goal oriented motor program-
ming". It is often referred to as *intuition*. Yet the entrepre-
neur of today exists among mostly a malframed industry of institu-
tionalized envy rather than enthusiastic expectation, making it
much more difficult to propogate ideas, amidst the sea of foaming
shame. (I never would have been able to accomplish this feat with-
out being relaxed enough to contemplate the related formula).

Adieu


I'm not trying to bash my own "good works", but I will admit that
it is still by Intelligent Design that mine is a "free gift from God".

The Egyptians relate that *Thoth had one arm bent as a sym-
bol of the inability of the intellect to act with perfect
directness and sureness, but hasn't there already been a
sure enough witness over the ages of the testimonies of
faith that bring the higher calling into spiritual renewal?
And hasn't this "renewal" already been taught and retaught
throughout the ages, by a sacred Word, universal mathema-
tical law or language?

*Thoth was Enoch, w/the one-arm-bent to represent a scribe
of the Gods

Yet the tongues were confused at the Tower of Babel, just
as they are today, because of the captivity of the lower
nature of materialism. Just as the rock and mortared
walls of Jerusalem represent the Soul in captivity until
the time of the End, so will the New Jerusalem descend
from Heaven over the Old, to show us that His kingdom
is much more glorious than originally thought.

Some Heavenly Pictures of the New Jerusalem:

http://www.eborg3.com/Graphics/Bible...1/Rev%2021%20N...


www.apocalipsis.org/ artwork/new-jeru(1).htm

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...jerusalem2.jpg

http://www.apocalypsetheunveiling.com/new_jerusalem.htm

I believe that the New Jerusalem will open our eyes to
the 26 dimensions of space-time, as well as the infinite
inhabitability of the heavens, which is becoming more
needful to believers as the End of Days approaches.

  #82  
Old June 18th 06, 10:57 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default We Will Meet Him in the Air


American wrote:
tomcat wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
So, we are dealing with pretty weird, strange, almost magical, stuff
called light. If photons really do have little, tiny mass even
relative to electrons and neutrinos then it 'might' be possible that
photons are the building blocks, not quarks. Or, to put it differently
it 'might' be that photons make up the quarks and, maybe, even the
'strings'. They are strange little things that seem to know when they
are being watched.

Well, I am not claiming to have all of this figured out. But having
this discussion has been enlightening to me and to others I think too.
Art Deco would probably enjoy it too except that his brain is locked in
a box somewhere and can't get out.


tomcat

Art Deco's brain is between his butt-cheeks as having been stuck deeply
within an overflowing space-toilet of incest and bigotry on a stick.
You're just badly snookered and summarily dumbfounded.

BTW; of the photons that we can see don't amount to 0.0000001% of the
photon spectrum. Of the photons we can detect don't amount to 0.1% of
the photon spectrum.
-
Brad Guth




Here, we are agreed on both points except for the possibility that Art
Deco 'has' a brain.

I am discovering more interesting things about those wily photons all
the time. Where does the Cherenkov Radiation come from?

It doesn't come from the FTL particle because that is not the way that
air turns into a burst of pressure when the sound barrier is broken.
So, it is 'probably' photons in the path of the particle that build up
because of the particle's speed, finally breaking loose because they
build up and can't hold on any longer.

Where do all of these 'unlit' photons come from. They must be there
from the beginning, just sitting there 'unlit' doing 'something', but
what?


tomcat


Tomcat:

It seems funny that you are at least on "the right path" as in a
parallel processor of legitimate proportion, and so I digress:
C**2 is a space time distortion, given C = SQRT[(B**2 - A**2)].
However, you are missing the point of the velocity of light
being *variable* (according to spacetime metric curvature).
An example would be at the atomic level, the shape of the
electron cloud as a prolate or rotated oblate spheroid. This
"cloud", as it were, can be resonated along a decompression
axis, while "bottling" the U(1) and SU(2) fields from SU(3).
The vector Helmholtz equation CANNOT BE SOLVED in prolate
spheroidal coordinates, so axial symmetry MUST BE ASSUMED, so
that the VECTOR FIELD can be separated into TRANSVERSE ELECTRIC
and TRANSVERSE MAGNETIC modes.

A covariance function is required to solve for X, using some cal-
culated values for matrices A and B for different locations on
the earth's surface. This function may be stated simply as the
relationship AX + XB = C, for average "ensemble" B, and
[A**T]*[X] + XA = C for instantaneous time T. Each one of A, B,
and C are real matrices of dimensions m x m, n x n, and m x n,
respectively. The range of magnitudes for respective dilations
can be included into the Helmholtz equation for each oblative
condition. The earth's "oblateness" does not vary much for local
translation, but for interstellar space, further investigation
reveals that any hypertranslative distortion that propogates
would require screening out the SU(3) field from the U(1) and
SU(2) fields. The weak force that governs the SU(2) symmetry be-
tween the electron and neutrino is the basis for outward/inward
fractalization of the Schumann Resonance system, drawing in
deltronic activity from the recipricol space reference frame for
intention imprinting.

Thus for the range of oblateness, there are many values of A for
only one value of B, for each dilation of C. For a 1:1 mapping,
this is the same as the aforementioned AX + XB = C equation, with
the exception that the "X" is both a right-handed and left-handed
artifact, each being diametrically orthogonal in their similarity
transformations. Through the use of a cubic reduction algorithm,
one of the "magic windows" for X exists when the infared and
ultraviolet bands being utilized are phase-locked so that the
ultraviolet represents a first harmonic of the infared. Thus we
have a corpuscular screening attached to the H_is monopole.

SUBROUTINE EQUATN(A,U,M,NA,NU,B,V,N,NB,NV,C,NC,ASPE,
1EPSB,LIAR)
REAL
1A(NA,1),U(NU,1),B(NB,1),V(NV,1),C(NC,1),ASPE,BSPE ,TEMP
INTEGER
1M,NA,NU,N,NB,NV,NC,LIAR,M1,MM1,N1,NM1,I,J,K
M1=M+1
MM1=M-1
N1=N+1
NM1=N-1
IF(ASPE.LT.0.)GO TO 35
DO 10 I=1,M
DO 10 J=1,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
10 CONTINUE
CALL ROCKON(A,M,NA)
CALL REVERSR(A,U,M,NA,NU)
IF(MM1.EQ.0)GO TO 25
DO 20 I=1,MM1
A(I+1,I)=A(I,M1)
20 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(A,U,M,NA,NU,ASPE,LIAR)
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
25 DO 30 I=1,M
DO 30 J=I,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
30 CONTINUE
35 IF(BSPE.LT.0.)GO TO 45
CALL ROCKON(B,N,NB)
CALL REVERSR(B,V,N,NB,NV)
IF(NM1.EQ.0)GO TO 45
DO 40 I=1,NM1
B(I+1,I)=B(I,N1)
40 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(B,V,N,NB,NV,BSPE,LIAR)
LIAR=-LIAR
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
45 DO 60 J=1,N
DO 50 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=0.
DO 50 K=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(K,I)*C(K,J)
50 CONTINUE
DO 60 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
60 CONTINUE
DO 80 I=1,M
DO 70 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 70 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(K,J)
70 CONTINUE
DO 80 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
80 CONTINUE
CALL BOMBAT(A,B,C,M,NNA,NB,NC)
DO 100 J=1,N
DO 90 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(I,K)*C(K,J)
90 CONTINUE
DO 100 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
100 CONTINUE
DO 120 I=1,M
DO 110 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 110 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(J,K)
110 CONTINUE
DO 120 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
120 CONTINUE
RETURN
END

Each of the subroutines ROCKON, REVERSR, SLEPIAN, and BOMBAT are
in my possession. There is a far more fundamental neurophysiolog-
ical "origin" of impulsivity than "goal oriented motor program-
ming". It is often referred to as *intuition*. Yet the entrepre-
neur of today exists among mostly a malframed industry of institu-
tionalized envy rather than enthusiastic expectation, making it
much more difficult to propogate ideas, amidst the sea of foaming
shame. (I never would have been able to accomplish this feat with-
out being relaxed enough to contemplate the related formula).

Adieu


I'm not trying to bash my own "good works", but I will admit that
it is still by Intelligent Design that mine is a "free gift from God".

The Egyptians relate that *Thoth had one arm bent as a sym-
bol of the inability of the intellect to act with perfect
directness and sureness, but hasn't there already been a
sure enough witness over the ages of the testimonies of
faith that bring the higher calling into spiritual renewal?
And hasn't this "renewal" already been taught and retaught
throughout the ages, by a sacred Word, universal mathema-
tical law or language?

*Thoth was Enoch, w/the one-arm-bent to represent a scribe
of the Gods

Yet the tongues were confused at the Tower of Babel, just
as they are today, because of the captivity of the lower
nature of materialism. Just as the rock and mortared
walls of Jerusalem represent the Soul in captivity until
the time of the End, so will the New Jerusalem descend
from Heaven over the Old, to show us that His kingdom
is much more glorious than originally thought.

Some Heavenly Pictures of the New Jerusalem:

http://www.eborg3.com/Graphics/Bible...1/Rev%2021%20N...


www.apocalipsis.org/ artwork/new-jeru(1).htm

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...jerusalem2.jpg

http://www.apocalypsetheunveiling.com/new_jerusalem.htm

I believe that the New Jerusalem will open our eyes to
the 26 dimensions of space-time, as well as the infinite
inhabitability of the heavens, which is becoming more
needful to believers as the End of Days approaches.

  #83  
Old June 18th 06, 11:00 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default We Will Meet Him in the Air


American wrote:
tomcat wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
So, we are dealing with pretty weird, strange, almost magical, stuff
called light. If photons really do have little, tiny mass even
relative to electrons and neutrinos then it 'might' be possible that
photons are the building blocks, not quarks. Or, to put it differently
it 'might' be that photons make up the quarks and, maybe, even the
'strings'. They are strange little things that seem to know when they
are being watched.

Well, I am not claiming to have all of this figured out. But having
this discussion has been enlightening to me and to others I think too.
Art Deco would probably enjoy it too except that his brain is locked in
a box somewhere and can't get out.


tomcat

Art Deco's brain is between his butt-cheeks as having been stuck deeply
within an overflowing space-toilet of incest and bigotry on a stick.
You're just badly snookered and summarily dumbfounded.

BTW; of the photons that we can see don't amount to 0.0000001% of the
photon spectrum. Of the photons we can detect don't amount to 0.1% of
the photon spectrum.
-
Brad Guth




Here, we are agreed on both points except for the possibility that Art
Deco 'has' a brain.

I am discovering more interesting things about those wily photons all
the time. Where does the Cherenkov Radiation come from?

It doesn't come from the FTL particle because that is not the way that
air turns into a burst of pressure when the sound barrier is broken.
So, it is 'probably' photons in the path of the particle that build up
because of the particle's speed, finally breaking loose because they
build up and can't hold on any longer.

Where do all of these 'unlit' photons come from. They must be there
from the beginning, just sitting there 'unlit' doing 'something', but
what?


tomcat


Tomcat:

It seems funny that you are at least on "the right path" as in a
parallel processor of legitimate proportion, and so I digress:
C**2 is a space time distortion, given C = SQRT[(B**2 - A**2)].
However, you are missing the point of the velocity of light
being *variable* (according to spacetime metric curvature).
An example would be at the atomic level, the shape of the
electron cloud as a prolate or rotated oblate spheroid. This
"cloud", as it were, can be resonated along a decompression
axis, while "bottling" the U(1) and SU(2) fields from SU(3).
The vector Helmholtz equation CANNOT BE SOLVED in prolate
spheroidal coordinates, so axial symmetry MUST BE ASSUMED, so
that the VECTOR FIELD can be separated into TRANSVERSE ELECTRIC
and TRANSVERSE MAGNETIC modes.

A covariance function is required to solve for X, using some cal-
culated values for matrices A and B for different locations on
the earth's surface. This function may be stated simply as the
relationship AX + XB = C, for average "ensemble" B, and
[A**T]*[X] + XA = C for instantaneous time T. Each one of A, B,
and C are real matrices of dimensions m x m, n x n, and m x n,
respectively. The range of magnitudes for respective dilations
can be included into the Helmholtz equation for each oblative
condition. The earth's "oblateness" does not vary much for local
translation, but for interstellar space, further investigation
reveals that any hypertranslative distortion that propogates
would require screening out the SU(3) field from the U(1) and
SU(2) fields. The weak force that governs the SU(2) symmetry be-
tween the electron and neutrino is the basis for outward/inward
fractalization of the Schumann Resonance system, drawing in
deltronic activity from the recipricol space reference frame for
intention imprinting.

Thus for the range of oblateness, there are many values of A for
only one value of B, for each dilation of C. For a 1:1 mapping,
this is the same as the aforementioned AX + XB = C equation, with
the exception that the "X" is both a right-handed and left-handed
artifact, each being diametrically orthogonal in their similarity
transformations. Through the use of a cubic reduction algorithm,
one of the "magic windows" for X exists when the infared and
ultraviolet bands being utilized are phase-locked so that the
ultraviolet represents a first harmonic of the infared. Thus we
have a corpuscular screening attached to the H_is monopole.

SUBROUTINE EQUATN(A,U,M,NA,NU,B,V,N,NB,NV,C,NC,ASPE,
1EPSB,LIAR)
REAL
1A(NA,1),U(NU,1),B(NB,1),V(NV,1),C(NC,1),ASPE,BSPE ,TEMP
INTEGER
1M,NA,NU,N,NB,NV,NC,LIAR,M1,MM1,N1,NM1,I,J,K
M1=M+1
MM1=M-1
N1=N+1
NM1=N-1
IF(ASPE.LT.0.)GO TO 35
DO 10 I=1,M
DO 10 J=1,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
10 CONTINUE
CALL ROCKON(A,M,NA)
CALL REVERSR(A,U,M,NA,NU)
IF(MM1.EQ.0)GO TO 25
DO 20 I=1,MM1
A(I+1,I)=A(I,M1)
20 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(A,U,M,NA,NU,ASPE,LIAR)
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
25 DO 30 I=1,M
DO 30 J=I,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
30 CONTINUE
35 IF(BSPE.LT.0.)GO TO 45
CALL ROCKON(B,N,NB)
CALL REVERSR(B,V,N,NB,NV)
IF(NM1.EQ.0)GO TO 45
DO 40 I=1,NM1
B(I+1,I)=B(I,N1)
40 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(B,V,N,NB,NV,BSPE,LIAR)
LIAR=-LIAR
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
45 DO 60 J=1,N
DO 50 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=0.
DO 50 K=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(K,I)*C(K,J)
50 CONTINUE
DO 60 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
60 CONTINUE
DO 80 I=1,M
DO 70 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 70 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(K,J)
70 CONTINUE
DO 80 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
80 CONTINUE
CALL BOMBAT(A,B,C,M,NNA,NB,NC)
DO 100 J=1,N
DO 90 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(I,K)*C(K,J)
90 CONTINUE
DO 100 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
100 CONTINUE
DO 120 I=1,M
DO 110 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 110 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(J,K)
110 CONTINUE
DO 120 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
120 CONTINUE
RETURN
END

Each of the subroutines ROCKON, REVERSR, SLEPIAN, and BOMBAT are
in my possession. There is a far more fundamental neurophysiolog-
ical "origin" of impulsivity than "goal oriented motor program-
ming". It is often referred to as *intuition*. Yet the entrepre-
neur of today exists among mostly a malframed industry of institu-
tionalized envy rather than enthusiastic expectation, making it
much more difficult to propogate ideas, amidst the sea of foaming
shame. (I never would have been able to accomplish this feat with-
out being relaxed enough to contemplate the related formula).

Adieu


I'm not trying to bash my own "good works", but I will admit that
it is still by Intelligent Design that mine is a "free gift from God".

The Egyptians relate that *Thoth had one arm bent as a sym-
bol of the inability of the intellect to act with perfect
directness and sureness, but hasn't there already been a
sure enough witness over the ages of the testimonies of
faith that bring the higher calling into spiritual renewal?
And hasn't this "renewal" already been taught and retaught
throughout the ages, by a sacred Word, universal mathema-
tical law or language?

*Thoth was Enoch, w/the one-arm-bent to represent a scribe
of the Gods

Yet the tongues were confused at the Tower of Babel, just
as they are today, because of the captivity of the lower
nature of materialism. Just as the rock and mortared
walls of Jerusalem represent the Soul in captivity until
the time of the End, so will the New Jerusalem descend
from Heaven over the Old, to show us that His kingdom
is much more glorious than originally thought.

Some Heavenly Pictures of the New Jerusalem:

http://www.eborg3.com/Graphics/Bible...1/Rev%2021%20N...


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...jerusalem2.jpg

http://www.apocalypsetheunveiling.com/new_jerusalem.htm

I believe that the New Jerusalem will open our eyes to
the 26 dimensions of space-time, as well as the infinite
inhabitability of the heavens, which is becoming more
needful to believers as the End of Days approaches.

  #84  
Old June 18th 06, 11:07 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
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Posts: n/a
Default We Shall Meet Him in the Air


American wrote:
tomcat wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
So, we are dealing with pretty weird, strange, almost magical, stuff
called light. If photons really do have little, tiny mass even
relative to electrons and neutrinos then it 'might' be possible that
photons are the building blocks, not quarks. Or, to put it differently
it 'might' be that photons make up the quarks and, maybe, even the
'strings'. They are strange little things that seem to know when they
are being watched.

Well, I am not claiming to have all of this figured out. But having
this discussion has been enlightening to me and to others I think too.
Art Deco would probably enjoy it too except that his brain is locked in
a box somewhere and can't get out.


tomcat

Art Deco's brain is between his butt-cheeks as having been stuck deeply
within an overflowing space-toilet of incest and bigotry on a stick.
You're just badly snookered and summarily dumbfounded.

BTW; of the photons that we can see don't amount to 0.0000001% of the
photon spectrum. Of the photons we can detect don't amount to 0.1% of
the photon spectrum.
-
Brad Guth




Here, we are agreed on both points except for the possibility that Art
Deco 'has' a brain.

I am discovering more interesting things about those wily photons all
the time. Where does the Cherenkov Radiation come from?

It doesn't come from the FTL particle because that is not the way that
air turns into a burst of pressure when the sound barrier is broken.
So, it is 'probably' photons in the path of the particle that build up
because of the particle's speed, finally breaking loose because they
build up and can't hold on any longer.

Where do all of these 'unlit' photons come from. They must be there
from the beginning, just sitting there 'unlit' doing 'something', but
what?


tomcat


Tomcat:

It seems funny that you are at least on "the right path" as in a
parallel processor of legitimate proportion, and so I digress:
C**2 is a space time distortion, given C = SQRT[(B**2 - A**2)].
However, you are missing the point of the velocity of light
being *variable* (according to spacetime metric curvature).
An example would be at the atomic level, the shape of the
electron cloud as a prolate or rotated oblate spheroid. This
"cloud", as it were, can be resonated along a decompression
axis, while "bottling" the U(1) and SU(2) fields from SU(3).
The vector Helmholtz equation CANNOT BE SOLVED in prolate
spheroidal coordinates, so axial symmetry MUST BE ASSUMED, so
that the VECTOR FIELD can be separated into TRANSVERSE ELECTRIC
and TRANSVERSE MAGNETIC modes.

A covariance function is required to solve for X, using some cal-
culated values for matrices A and B for different locations on
the earth's surface. This function may be stated simply as the
relationship AX + XB = C, for average "ensemble" B, and
[A**T]*[X] + XA = C for instantaneous time T. Each one of A, B,
and C are real matrices of dimensions m x m, n x n, and m x n,
respectively. The range of magnitudes for respective dilations
can be included into the Helmholtz equation for each oblative
condition. The earth's "oblateness" does not vary much for local
translation, but for interstellar space, further investigation
reveals that any hypertranslative distortion that propogates
would require screening out the SU(3) field from the U(1) and
SU(2) fields. The weak force that governs the SU(2) symmetry be-
tween the electron and neutrino is the basis for outward/inward
fractalization of the Schumann Resonance system, drawing in
deltronic activity from the recipricol space reference frame for
intention imprinting.

Thus for the range of oblateness, there are many values of A for
only one value of B, for each dilation of C. For a 1:1 mapping,
this is the same as the aforementioned AX + XB = C equation, with
the exception that the "X" is both a right-handed and left-handed
artifact, each being diametrically orthogonal in their similarity
transformations. Through the use of a cubic reduction algorithm,
one of the "magic windows" for X exists when the infared and
ultraviolet bands being utilized are phase-locked so that the
ultraviolet represents a first harmonic of the infared. Thus we
have a corpuscular screening attached to the H_is monopole.

SUBROUTINE EQUATN(A,U,M,NA,NU,B,V,N,NB,NV,C,NC,ASPE,
1EPSB,LIAR)
REAL
1A(NA,1),U(NU,1),B(NB,1),V(NV,1),C(NC,1),ASPE,BSPE ,TEMP
INTEGER
1M,NA,NU,N,NB,NV,NC,LIAR,M1,MM1,N1,NM1,I,J,K
M1=M+1
MM1=M-1
N1=N+1
NM1=N-1
IF(ASPE.LT.0.)GO TO 35
DO 10 I=1,M
DO 10 J=1,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
10 CONTINUE
CALL ROCKON(A,M,NA)
CALL REVERSR(A,U,M,NA,NU)
IF(MM1.EQ.0)GO TO 25
DO 20 I=1,MM1
A(I+1,I)=A(I,M1)
20 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(A,U,M,NA,NU,ASPE,LIAR)
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
25 DO 30 I=1,M
DO 30 J=I,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
30 CONTINUE
35 IF(BSPE.LT.0.)GO TO 45
CALL ROCKON(B,N,NB)
CALL REVERSR(B,V,N,NB,NV)
IF(NM1.EQ.0)GO TO 45
DO 40 I=1,NM1
B(I+1,I)=B(I,N1)
40 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(B,V,N,NB,NV,BSPE,LIAR)
LIAR=-LIAR
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
45 DO 60 J=1,N
DO 50 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=0.
DO 50 K=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(K,I)*C(K,J)
50 CONTINUE
DO 60 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
60 CONTINUE
DO 80 I=1,M
DO 70 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 70 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(K,J)
70 CONTINUE
DO 80 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
80 CONTINUE
CALL BOMBAT(A,B,C,M,NNA,NB,NC)
DO 100 J=1,N
DO 90 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(I,K)*C(K,J)
90 CONTINUE
DO 100 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
100 CONTINUE
DO 120 I=1,M
DO 110 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 110 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(J,K)
110 CONTINUE
DO 120 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
120 CONTINUE
RETURN
END

Each of the subroutines ROCKON, REVERSR, SLEPIAN, and BOMBAT are
in my possession. There is a far more fundamental neurophysiolog-
ical "origin" of impulsivity than "goal oriented motor program-
ming". It is often referred to as *intuition*. Yet the entrepre-
neur of today exists among mostly a malframed industry of institu-
tionalized envy rather than enthusiastic expectation, making it
much more difficult to propogate ideas, amidst the sea of foaming
shame. (I never would have been able to accomplish this feat with-
out being relaxed enough to contemplate the related formula).

Adieu


I'm not trying to bash my own "good works", but I will admit that
it is still by Intelligent Design that mine is a "free gift from God".

The Egyptians relate that *Thoth had one arm bent as a sym-
bol of the inability of the intellect to act with perfect
directness and sureness, but hasn't there already been a
sure enough witness over the ages of the testimonies of
faith that bring the higher calling into spiritual renewal?
And hasn't this "renewal" already been taught and retaught
throughout the ages, by a sacred Word, universal mathema-
tical law or language?

*Thoth was Enoch, w/the one-arm-bent to represent a scribe
of the Gods

Yet the tongues were confused at the Tower of Babel, just
as they are today, because of the captivity of the lower
nature of materialism. Just as the rock and mortared
walls of Jerusalem represent the Soul in captivity until
the time of the End, so will the New Jerusalem descend
from Heaven over the Old, to show us that His kingdom
is much more glorious than originally thought.

Some Heavenly Pictures of the New Jerusalem:

http://www.eborg3.com/Graphics/Bible...1/Rev%2021%20N...


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...jerusalem2.jpg

http://www.apocalypsetheunveiling.com/new_jerusalem.htm

I believe that the New Jerusalem will open our eyes to
the 26 dimensions of space-time, as well as the infinite
inhabitability of the heavens, which is becoming more
needful to believers as the End of Days approaches.

  #85  
Old June 19th 06, 06:49 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
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Posts: n/a
Default mass is light.


American wrote:
It seems funny that you are at least on "the right path" as in a
parallel processor of legitimate proportion, and so I digress:
C**2 is a space time distortion, given C = SQRT[(B**2 - A**2)].
However, you are missing the point of the velocity of light
being *variable* (according to spacetime metric curvature).
An example would be at the atomic level, the shape of the
electron cloud as a prolate or rotated oblate spheroid. This
"cloud", as it were, can be resonated along a decompression
axis, while "bottling" the U(1) and SU(2) fields from SU(3).
The vector Helmholtz equation CANNOT BE SOLVED in prolate
spheroidal coordinates, so axial symmetry MUST BE ASSUMED, so
that the VECTOR FIELD can be separated into TRANSVERSE ELECTRIC
and TRANSVERSE MAGNETIC modes.



Yes, C ^ 2 is a space time distortion, as is just about everything else
that has mass. And, yes again, light speed is variable. This has been
proven by projecting light in various mediums.



A covariance function is required to solve for X, using some cal-
culated values for matrices A and B for different locations on
the earth's surface. This function may be stated simply as the
relationship AX + XB = C, for average "ensemble" B, and
[A**T]*[X] + XA = C for instantaneous time T. Each one of A, B,
and C are real matrices of dimensions m x m, n x n, and m x n,
respectively. The range of magnitudes for respective dilations
can be included into the Helmholtz equation for each oblative
condition. The earth's "oblateness" does not vary much for local
translation, but for interstellar space, further investigation
reveals that any hypertranslative distortion that propogates
would require screening out the SU(3) field from the U(1) and
SU(2) fields. The weak force that governs the SU(2) symmetry be-
tween the electron and neutrino is the basis for outward/inward
fractalization of the Schumann Resonance system, drawing in
deltronic activity from the recipricol space reference frame for
intention imprinting.

Thus for the range of oblateness, there are many values of A for
only one value of B, for each dilation of C. For a 1:1 mapping,
this is the same as the aforementioned AX + XB = C equation, with
the exception that the "X" is both a right-handed and left-handed
artifact, each being diametrically orthogonal in their similarity
transformations. Through the use of a cubic reduction algorithm,
one of the "magic windows" for X exists when the infared and
ultraviolet bands being utilized are phase-locked so that the
ultraviolet represents a first harmonic of the infared. Thus we
have a corpuscular screening attached to the H_is monopole.

SUBROUTINE EQUATN(A,U,M,NA,NU,B,V,N,NB,NV,C,NC,ASPE,
1EPSB,LIAR)
REAL
1A(NA,1),U(NU,1),B(NB,1),V(NV,1),C(NC,1),ASPE,BSPE ,TEMP
INTEGER
1M,NA,NU,N,NB,NV,NC,LIAR,M1,MM1,N1,NM1,I,J,K
M1=M+1
MM1=M-1
N1=N+1
NM1=N-1
IF(ASPE.LT.0.)GO TO 35
DO 10 I=1,M
DO 10 J=1,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
10 CONTINUE
CALL ROCKON(A,M,NA)
CALL REVERSR(A,U,M,NA,NU)
IF(MM1.EQ.0)GO TO 25
DO 20 I=1,MM1
A(I+1,I)=A(I,M1)
20 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(A,U,M,NA,NU,ASPE,LIAR)
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
25 DO 30 I=1,M
DO 30 J=I,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
30 CONTINUE
35 IF(BSPE.LT.0.)GO TO 45
CALL ROCKON(B,N,NB)
CALL REVERSR(B,V,N,NB,NV)
IF(NM1.EQ.0)GO TO 45
DO 40 I=1,NM1
B(I+1,I)=B(I,N1)
40 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(B,V,N,NB,NV,BSPE,LIAR)
LIAR=-LIAR
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
45 DO 60 J=1,N
DO 50 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=0.
DO 50 K=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(K,I)*C(K,J)
50 CONTINUE
DO 60 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
60 CONTINUE
DO 80 I=1,M
DO 70 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 70 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(K,J)
70 CONTINUE
DO 80 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
80 CONTINUE
CALL BOMBAT(A,B,C,M,NNA,NB,NC)
DO 100 J=1,N
DO 90 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(I,K)*C(K,J)
90 CONTINUE
DO 100 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
100 CONTINUE
DO 120 I=1,M
DO 110 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 110 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(J,K)
110 CONTINUE
DO 120 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
120 CONTINUE
RETURN
END

Each of the subroutines ROCKON, REVERSR, SLEPIAN, and BOMBAT are
in my possession. There is a far more fundamental neurophysiolog-
ical "origin" of impulsivity than "goal oriented motor program-
ming". It is often referred to as *intuition*. Yet the entrepre-
neur of today exists among mostly a malframed industry of institu-
tionalized envy rather than enthusiastic expectation, making it
much more difficult to propogate ideas, amidst the sea of foaming
shame. (I never would have been able to accomplish this feat with-
out being relaxed enough to contemplate the related formula).

Adieu



Being relaxed is very important for concentration and accomplishment.
This is why the Usenet Hecklers should be BANNED.


We exist in a 'warped' Universe. Everything in the Universe is warped
because that is what enables a thing to exist. Light exists within our
Universe, thus light is warped. Light, therefore, has mass so that it
may be warped, and thus exist.

The 'speed of light remained unchanged for all frames of reference'
refers to the Michaelson Morley experiment in which light was timed
from all directions while the Earth and Solar System was moving very
fast in several different directions. The speed of light was the same
as it came in from all directions after having been reflected by
mirrors.

A fluid aether would also allow light to have the same speed for all
'frames of reference' because it would be moving along with the Earth
and Solar System movements too. So the 'all frames of reference'
argument does not disprove the aether theory.

Light has recently been shown to slow down, stop, and speed up to
faster than 'light in a vacuum' in experiments. The mere fact that it
is affected by the mass of the medium through which it travels is an
indication that light has mass of it's own.

If light is massless then why does it have difficulty in dealing with
particles that travel faster than it does in a given medium?
Apparently, it bunches up in front of these FTL particles and then
explodes in all directions creating Cherenkov Radiation. Air is very
light and has little mass and does the same thing when a supersonic
fighter rams through the air molecules. When the fighter passes the
sound barrier, which is the maxiumum speed of air, there is an
explosion of air and a 'sonic boom' that everyone has heard at one time
or another.

And, furthermore, if light is massless then what causes it to slow down
in certain mediums despite the fact that heavy particles can slam
through them at a faster speed? If light were massless, and the medium
is not opaque, then light would be unaffected by the mass of the
medium.

Since there are objects in our observable Universe that travel nearly
as fast as the speed of light, viz., receding galaxies, and it is
reasonable to assume that these 'receding galaxies' have light shining
within them AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN A VACUUM then it is reasonable to
assume that there is, and has to be, a fluid aether. Without such an
aether this light would slam into us at far slower speeds than the
speed of light but instead we pick up a red shift instead. Why?

The red shift is a low compression of waves caused by the velocity
difference in our aether in the Milky Way galaxy relative to the aether
in the receding galaxy. The light wave is being stretched as it is
grabbed and whipped into a different 'frame of reference'. This is the
only thing I can think of that would not allow for different light
speeds noticible from Earth. Instead we have frequency shifts.


tomcat

  #86  
Old June 19th 06, 04:27 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
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Posts: n/a
Default mass is light.


tomcat wrote:
American wrote:
It seems funny that you are at least on "the right path" as in a
parallel processor of legitimate proportion, and so I digress:
C**2 is a space time distortion, given C = SQRT[(B**2 - A**2)].
However, you are missing the point of the velocity of light
being *variable* (according to spacetime metric curvature).
An example would be at the atomic level, the shape of the
electron cloud as a prolate or rotated oblate spheroid. This
"cloud", as it were, can be resonated along a decompression
axis, while "bottling" the U(1) and SU(2) fields from SU(3).
The vector Helmholtz equation CANNOT BE SOLVED in prolate
spheroidal coordinates, so axial symmetry MUST BE ASSUMED, so
that the VECTOR FIELD can be separated into TRANSVERSE ELECTRIC
and TRANSVERSE MAGNETIC modes.



Yes, C ^ 2 is a space time distortion, as is just about everything else
that has mass. And, yes again, light speed is variable. This has been
proven by projecting light in various mediums.



A covariance function is required to solve for X, using some cal-
culated values for matrices A and B for different locations on
the earth's surface. This function may be stated simply as the
relationship AX + XB = C, for average "ensemble" B, and
[A**T]*[X] + XA = C for instantaneous time T. Each one of A, B,
and C are real matrices of dimensions m x m, n x n, and m x n,
respectively. The range of magnitudes for respective dilations
can be included into the Helmholtz equation for each oblative
condition. The earth's "oblateness" does not vary much for local
translation, but for interstellar space, further investigation
reveals that any hypertranslative distortion that propogates
would require screening out the SU(3) field from the U(1) and
SU(2) fields. The weak force that governs the SU(2) symmetry be-
tween the electron and neutrino is the basis for outward/inward
fractalization of the Schumann Resonance system, drawing in
deltronic activity from the recipricol space reference frame for
intention imprinting.

Thus for the range of oblateness, there are many values of A for
only one value of B, for each dilation of C. For a 1:1 mapping,
this is the same as the aforementioned AX + XB = C equation, with
the exception that the "X" is both a right-handed and left-handed
artifact, each being diametrically orthogonal in their similarity
transformations. Through the use of a cubic reduction algorithm,
one of the "magic windows" for X exists when the infared and
ultraviolet bands being utilized are phase-locked so that the
ultraviolet represents a first harmonic of the infared. Thus we
have a corpuscular screening attached to the H_is monopole.

SUBROUTINE EQUATN(A,U,M,NA,NU,B,V,N,NB,NV,C,NC,ASPE,
1EPSB,LIAR)
REAL
1A(NA,1),U(NU,1),B(NB,1),V(NV,1),C(NC,1),ASPE,BSPE ,TEMP
INTEGER
1M,NA,NU,N,NB,NV,NC,LIAR,M1,MM1,N1,NM1,I,J,K
M1=M+1
MM1=M-1
N1=N+1
NM1=N-1
IF(ASPE.LT.0.)GO TO 35
DO 10 I=1,M
DO 10 J=1,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
10 CONTINUE
CALL ROCKON(A,M,NA)
CALL REVERSR(A,U,M,NA,NU)
IF(MM1.EQ.0)GO TO 25
DO 20 I=1,MM1
A(I+1,I)=A(I,M1)
20 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(A,U,M,NA,NU,ASPE,LIAR)
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
25 DO 30 I=1,M
DO 30 J=I,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
30 CONTINUE
35 IF(BSPE.LT.0.)GO TO 45
CALL ROCKON(B,N,NB)
CALL REVERSR(B,V,N,NB,NV)
IF(NM1.EQ.0)GO TO 45
DO 40 I=1,NM1
B(I+1,I)=B(I,N1)
40 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(B,V,N,NB,NV,BSPE,LIAR)
LIAR=-LIAR
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
45 DO 60 J=1,N
DO 50 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=0.
DO 50 K=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(K,I)*C(K,J)
50 CONTINUE
DO 60 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
60 CONTINUE
DO 80 I=1,M
DO 70 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 70 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(K,J)
70 CONTINUE
DO 80 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
80 CONTINUE
CALL BOMBAT(A,B,C,M,NNA,NB,NC)
DO 100 J=1,N
DO 90 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(I,K)*C(K,J)
90 CONTINUE
DO 100 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
100 CONTINUE
DO 120 I=1,M
DO 110 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 110 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(J,K)
110 CONTINUE
DO 120 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
120 CONTINUE
RETURN
END

Each of the subroutines ROCKON, REVERSR, SLEPIAN, and BOMBAT are
in my possession. There is a far more fundamental neurophysiolog-
ical "origin" of impulsivity than "goal oriented motor program-
ming". It is often referred to as *intuition*. Yet the entrepre-
neur of today exists among mostly a malframed industry of institu-
tionalized envy rather than enthusiastic expectation, making it
much more difficult to propogate ideas, amidst the sea of foaming
shame. (I never would have been able to accomplish this feat with-
out being relaxed enough to contemplate the related formula).

Adieu



Being relaxed is very important for concentration and accomplishment.
This is why the Usenet Hecklers should be BANNED.


We exist in a 'warped' Universe. Everything in the Universe is warped
because that is what enables a thing to exist. Light exists within our
Universe, thus light is warped. Light, therefore, has mass so that it
may be warped, and thus exist.

The 'speed of light remained unchanged for all frames of reference'
refers to the Michaelson Morley experiment in which light was timed
from all directions while the Earth and Solar System was moving very
fast in several different directions. The speed of light was the same
as it came in from all directions after having been reflected by
mirrors.

A fluid aether would also allow light to have the same speed for all
'frames of reference' because it would be moving along with the Earth
and Solar System movements too. So the 'all frames of reference'
argument does not disprove the aether theory.

Light has recently been shown to slow down, stop, and speed up to
faster than 'light in a vacuum' in experiments. The mere fact that it
is affected by the mass of the medium through which it travels is an
indication that light has mass of it's own.

If light is massless then why does it have difficulty in dealing with
particles that travel faster than it does in a given medium?
Apparently, it bunches up in front of these FTL particles and then
explodes in all directions creating Cherenkov Radiation. Air is very
light and has little mass and does the same thing when a supersonic
fighter rams through the air molecules. When the fighter passes the
sound barrier, which is the maxiumum speed of air, there is an
explosion of air and a 'sonic boom' that everyone has heard at one time
or another.

And, furthermore, if light is massless then what causes it to slow down
in certain mediums despite the fact that heavy particles can slam
through them at a faster speed? If light were massless, and the medium
is not opaque, then light would be unaffected by the mass of the
medium.

Since there are objects in our observable Universe that travel nearly
as fast as the speed of light, viz., receding galaxies, and it is
reasonable to assume that these 'receding galaxies' have light shining
within them AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN A VACUUM then it is reasonable to
assume that there is, and has to be, a fluid aether. Without such an
aether this light would slam into us at far slower speeds than the
speed of light but instead we pick up a red shift instead. Why?

The red shift is a low compression of waves caused by the velocity
difference in our aether in the Milky Way galaxy relative to the aether
in the receding galaxy. The light wave is being stretched as it is
grabbed and whipped into a different 'frame of reference'. This is the
only thing I can think of that would not allow for different light
speeds noticible from Earth. Instead we have frequency shifts.


tomcat





Sound travels through air as a vibration. In it's extreme it is a
'shockwave' that peels away from a jet as it goes supersonic.

Could it be that light travels through aether as a vibration too. And,
that it is a 'shockwave' as well that peels away from a FTL particle as
it goes superluminal. This would explain the wave theory of light, but
not the particle theory. Light is, apparently, both at once.

It may well be that the aether is the really strange stuff around here,
not light per se. Light is simply interacting with the aether in such
a way that the aether shows it's mysterious weird attributes such as
forcing FTL particles back in time. Light has been proven to go back
in time if it exceeds it speed in a vacuum. This has been done by
doping optical fibers with erbium.

It may be, then, that the aether is the barrier between forward time
and backward time. It may be a thin film separating that unique
portion of the spacetime fabric.


tomcat

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Rhonda Lea Kirk ) wrote:
: Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Rhonda Lea Kirk" wrote:
:
: I guess that says everything.
:
: rl
: :--
: Rhonda Lea Kirk
:
: Insisting on perfect safety is for people
: without the balls to live in the real world.
: Mary Shafer Iliff
:
: Hey, Mary! Somebody else picked it up!

: I've been using this for a long time, Fred, just not on usenet until
: recently. It seemed appropriate for the group I was posting in,
: although...

: ...one of the guys had testicular cancer, and when he lost a ball, he
: asked me to change it a little, which I did, with the notation that the
: "s" had been intentionally elided.

: And how have you been? Still stirring the ****?

PMJI.

That would be "producing and stirring"...

: --
: Rhonda Lea Kirk

: Insisting on perfect safety is for people
: without the balls to live in the real world.
: Mary Shafer Iliff


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Fred J. McCall ) wrote:
: "Rhonda Lea Kirk" wrote:

: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : "Rhonda Lea Kirk" wrote:
: :
: : I guess that says everything.
: :
: : rl
: : :--
: : Rhonda Lea Kirk
: :
: : Insisting on perfect safety is for people
: : without the balls to live in the real world.
: : Mary Shafer Iliff
: :
: : Hey, Mary! Somebody else picked it up!
: :
: :I've been using this for a long time, Fred, just not on usenet until
: :recently. It seemed appropriate for the group I was posting in,
: :although...

: Yep. I've been using it since she said it in the original sci.space
: newsgroup.

: :...one of the guys had testicular cancer, and when he lost a ball, he
: :asked me to change it a little, which I did, with the notation that the
: :"s" had been intentionally elided.
: :
: :And how have you been? Still stirring the ****?

: Pretty much. I've apparently offended Rand's ego enough so that he
: ran off in a snit (which is rather funny, when you consider how much
: time he spends responding to El Chimpo and assorted idiots).

: After all those years of us all joking about "death of Usenet
: predicted", it seems like it's finally coming about. Overrun by
: idiots and even a lot of old timers have apparently drunk too much of
: the Kool-Aid....

....yes, while you McClod, are the stablizing force of the group. LOL!

: --
: "If it's the fool who likes to rush in.
: And if it's the angel who never does try.
: And if it's me who will lose or win
: Then I'll make my best guess and I won't care why.
: Come on and get me, you twist of fate.
: I'm standing right here, Mr Destiny.
: If you want to talk, well then I'll relate.
: If you don't, so what? 'Cuz you don't scare me.
: -- "Gunfighter", Blues Traveler
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Default mass is light.


tomcat wrote:
tomcat wrote:
American wrote:
It seems funny that you are at least on "the right path" as in a
parallel processor of legitimate proportion, and so I digress:
C**2 is a space time distortion, given C = SQRT[(B**2 - A**2)].
However, you are missing the point of the velocity of light
being *variable* (according to spacetime metric curvature).
An example would be at the atomic level, the shape of the
electron cloud as a prolate or rotated oblate spheroid. This
"cloud", as it were, can be resonated along a decompression
axis, while "bottling" the U(1) and SU(2) fields from SU(3).
The vector Helmholtz equation CANNOT BE SOLVED in prolate
spheroidal coordinates, so axial symmetry MUST BE ASSUMED, so
that the VECTOR FIELD can be separated into TRANSVERSE ELECTRIC
and TRANSVERSE MAGNETIC modes.



Yes, C ^ 2 is a space time distortion, as is just about everything else
that has mass. And, yes again, light speed is variable. This has been
proven by projecting light in various mediums.



A covariance function is required to solve for X, using some cal-
culated values for matrices A and B for different locations on
the earth's surface. This function may be stated simply as the
relationship AX + XB = C, for average "ensemble" B, and
[A**T]*[X] + XA = C for instantaneous time T. Each one of A, B,
and C are real matrices of dimensions m x m, n x n, and m x n,
respectively. The range of magnitudes for respective dilations
can be included into the Helmholtz equation for each oblative
condition. The earth's "oblateness" does not vary much for local
translation, but for interstellar space, further investigation
reveals that any hypertranslative distortion that propogates
would require screening out the SU(3) field from the U(1) and
SU(2) fields. The weak force that governs the SU(2) symmetry be-
tween the electron and neutrino is the basis for outward/inward
fractalization of the Schumann Resonance system, drawing in
deltronic activity from the recipricol space reference frame for
intention imprinting.

Thus for the range of oblateness, there are many values of A for
only one value of B, for each dilation of C. For a 1:1 mapping,
this is the same as the aforementioned AX + XB = C equation, with
the exception that the "X" is both a right-handed and left-handed
artifact, each being diametrically orthogonal in their similarity
transformations. Through the use of a cubic reduction algorithm,
one of the "magic windows" for X exists when the infared and
ultraviolet bands being utilized are phase-locked so that the
ultraviolet represents a first harmonic of the infared. Thus we
have a corpuscular screening attached to the H_is monopole.

SUBROUTINE EQUATN(A,U,M,NA,NU,B,V,N,NB,NV,C,NC,ASPE,
1EPSB,LIAR)
REAL
1A(NA,1),U(NU,1),B(NB,1),V(NV,1),C(NC,1),ASPE,BSPE ,TEMP
INTEGER
1M,NA,NU,N,NB,NV,NC,LIAR,M1,MM1,N1,NM1,I,J,K
M1=M+1
MM1=M-1
N1=N+1
NM1=N-1
IF(ASPE.LT.0.)GO TO 35
DO 10 I=1,M
DO 10 J=1,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
10 CONTINUE
CALL ROCKON(A,M,NA)
CALL REVERSR(A,U,M,NA,NU)
IF(MM1.EQ.0)GO TO 25
DO 20 I=1,MM1
A(I+1,I)=A(I,M1)
20 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(A,U,M,NA,NU,ASPE,LIAR)
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
25 DO 30 I=1,M
DO 30 J=I,M
TEMP=A(I,J)
A(I,J)=A(J,I)
A(J,I)=TEMP
30 CONTINUE
35 IF(BSPE.LT.0.)GO TO 45
CALL ROCKON(B,N,NB)
CALL REVERSR(B,V,N,NB,NV)
IF(NM1.EQ.0)GO TO 45
DO 40 I=1,NM1
B(I+1,I)=B(I,N1)
40 CONTINUE
CALL SLEPIAN(B,V,N,NB,NV,BSPE,LIAR)
LIAR=-LIAR
IF(LIAR.NE.0)RETURN
45 DO 60 J=1,N
DO 50 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=0.
DO 50 K=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(K,I)*C(K,J)
50 CONTINUE
DO 60 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
60 CONTINUE
DO 80 I=1,M
DO 70 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 70 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(K,J)
70 CONTINUE
DO 80 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
80 CONTINUE
CALL BOMBAT(A,B,C,M,NNA,NB,NC)
DO 100 J=1,N
DO 90 I=1,M
A(I,M1)=A(I,M1)+U(I,K)*C(K,J)
90 CONTINUE
DO 100 I=1,M
C(I,J)=A(I,M1)
100 CONTINUE
DO 120 I=1,M
DO 110 J=1,N
B(N1,J)=0.
DO 110 K=1,N
B(N1,J)=B(N1,J)+C(I,K)*V(J,K)
110 CONTINUE
DO 120 J=1,N
C(I,J)=B(N1,J)
120 CONTINUE
RETURN
END

Each of the subroutines ROCKON, REVERSR, SLEPIAN, and BOMBAT are
in my possession. There is a far more fundamental neurophysiolog-
ical "origin" of impulsivity than "goal oriented motor program-
ming". It is often referred to as *intuition*. Yet the entrepre-
neur of today exists among mostly a malframed industry of institu-
tionalized envy rather than enthusiastic expectation, making it
much more difficult to propogate ideas, amidst the sea of foaming
shame. (I never would have been able to accomplish this feat with-
out being relaxed enough to contemplate the related formula).

Adieu



Being relaxed is very important for concentration and accomplishment.
This is why the Usenet Hecklers should be BANNED.


We exist in a 'warped' Universe. Everything in the Universe is warped
because that is what enables a thing to exist. Light exists within our
Universe, thus light is warped. Light, therefore, has mass so that it
may be warped, and thus exist.

The 'speed of light remained unchanged for all frames of reference'
refers to the Michaelson Morley experiment in which light was timed
from all directions while the Earth and Solar System was moving very
fast in several different directions. The speed of light was the same
as it came in from all directions after having been reflected by
mirrors.

A fluid aether would also allow light to have the same speed for all
'frames of reference' because it would be moving along with the Earth
and Solar System movements too. So the 'all frames of reference'
argument does not disprove the aether theory.

Light has recently been shown to slow down, stop, and speed up to
faster than 'light in a vacuum' in experiments. The mere fact that it
is affected by the mass of the medium through which it travels is an
indication that light has mass of it's own.

If light is massless then why does it have difficulty in dealing with
particles that travel faster than it does in a given medium?
Apparently, it bunches up in front of these FTL particles and then
explodes in all directions creating Cherenkov Radiation. Air is very
light and has little mass and does the same thing when a supersonic
fighter rams through the air molecules. When the fighter passes the
sound barrier, which is the maxiumum speed of air, there is an
explosion of air and a 'sonic boom' that everyone has heard at one time
or another.

And, furthermore, if light is massless then what causes it to slow down
in certain mediums despite the fact that heavy particles can slam
through them at a faster speed? If light were massless, and the medium
is not opaque, then light would be unaffected by the mass of the
medium.

Since there are objects in our observable Universe that travel nearly
as fast as the speed of light, viz., receding galaxies, and it is
reasonable to assume that these 'receding galaxies' have light shining
within them AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN A VACUUM then it is reasonable to
assume that there is, and has to be, a fluid aether. Without such an
aether this light would slam into us at far slower speeds than the
speed of light but instead we pick up a red shift instead. Why?

The red shift is a low compression of waves caused by the velocity
difference in our aether in the Milky Way galaxy relative to the aether
in the receding galaxy. The light wave is being stretched as it is
grabbed and whipped into a different 'frame of reference'. This is the
only thing I can think of that would not allow for different light
speeds noticible from Earth. Instead we have frequency shifts.


tomcat





Sound travels through air as a vibration. In it's extreme it is a
'shockwave' that peels away from a jet as it goes supersonic.

Could it be that light travels through aether as a vibration too. And,
that it is a 'shockwave' as well that peels away from a FTL particle as
it goes superluminal. This would explain the wave theory of light, but
not the particle theory. Light is, apparently, both at once.

It may well be that the aether is the really strange stuff around here,
not light per se. Light is simply interacting with the aether in such
a way that the aether shows it's mysterious weird attributes such as
forcing FTL particles back in time. Light has been proven to go back
in time if it exceeds it speed in a vacuum. This has been done by
doping optical fibers with erbium.

It may be, then, that the aether is the barrier between forward time
and backward time. It may be a thin film separating that unique
portion of the spacetime fabric.


tomcat
Could it be that light travels through aether as a vibration
too. And, that it is a 'shockwave' as well that peels away
from a FTL particle as it goes superluminal.

This would explain the wave theory of light, but not the
particle theory. Light is, apparently, both at once.


Yes, from the vantage point of an observer ON THE GROUND, but
not w/the particle theory, because *momentum* enters a "time warp"
in terms of diamagnetic synchronicity, whereas, from *both* vantage
points, "position" enters a "space warp" in terms of "inbound
and outbound" quadramagnetic synchronicity. (See the first two
terms of the Reimann covariant function).

Light has been proven to go back in time if it exceeds it
speed in a vacuum. This has been done by doping optical
fibers with erbium.


Proven *dogmatically*, yes. There have been theoretical con-
structs around since before we were born, as evidenced by
"tachyon". This is a "rediscovery" for the benefit of all
those who would entertain the notion, also, e.g., using phase
shifted communication:

c_g = 1/3 c_ph, meaning that the group velocity is about 1/3
of the value for the phase velocity. The phase velocity is
the velocity of propogation of the field patterns, and for
waveguides is greater than c, and is equal to c x lambda_g / l ,
where lambda_g is the wavelength in the waveguide, equal to
lambda / sqrt [ ( 1 - ( f_c / f )**2 ] where lambda is the
entering wavelength, f_c is the cutoff frequency in the wave-
guide, and f is the entering frequency.

It may be, then, that the aether is the barrier between
forward time and backward time. It may be a thin film sep-
arating that unique portion of the spacetime fabric.


Thin film, yes, and upon closer inspection, intricately woven
as in Hilbert, Einstein, Calabi Yau, Kaluza Klein, Penrose,
Hawking, Sarfatti, etc. These guys know their stuff. It's
nice to have 'em around, as long as their ivory towers aren't
in lockdown mode.

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Eric Chomko wrote:
Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:


And how have you been? Still stirring the ****?


PMJI.

That would be "producing and stirring"...


Does this mean that you and Rand are no longer doing battle, Eric?

I may just pass out.

rl
--
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Insisting on perfect safety is for people
without the balls to live in the real world.
Mary Shafer Iliff


 




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