"Nazis Run Our Space Program" -- Peace Activist Bruce Gag-Me

Pat Flannery ) wrote:


: Dale wrote:

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: Wanted to use "Ho", but all I came up with for that were old
: Burl Ives Christmas song lyrics...
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: Who's the Vietnamese grandfather man,
: That's shipping guns in the sampans?
: Ho!
: Ya damn right!

: Who will bring the enemy to rout,
: When there's Frenchmen all about?
: Ho!
: Dig it, brothers?

: Who will make the Yankees run,
: Away from the hot Asian sun?
: Ho!
: Right on!

: LBJ will surely bungle,
: A war fought in Ho's jungle!
: He's a mean mother....
: SHUT YOUR COUNTERREVOLUTIONARY MOUTH!
: I'm talkin' 'bout Ho!
: THEN WE CAN DIG IT, COMRADE!

: To America he's a pain,
: But he's a sex god to Hanoi Jane!
: Ho...Ho Chi Min! ;-)

I will never see Santa Claus in the same light again...

Eric

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Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 03:14:27 -0500, in a place far, far away,
: (Mike Flugennock) made the phosphor on my
: monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

: In article ,
: wrote:
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: "Nathan Gant" wrote:
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: :Bruce has perfectly rational objections about launching plutonium in
: :rockets.
:
: Speaking as a member of the peace activist community -- and a rather
: embarassed member, at that -- I still couldn't understand this guy's
: objections. Cassini gave us, what, however-many pounds less Pl on the
: Earth to fall into the hands of some bozo like Hussein or Putin or Bush,
: and more compelling photos and scientific discoveries than we can shake a
: stick at? Sounds like a total win-win.
:
: I mean, how could this guy complain about Pl being _removed_ from the
: Earth?

: Because he's a very sincere, but misguided nutjob?

Sounds like John Ashcroft and other like-minded members of the Christian
Right.

Eric

Fred J. McCall wrote:

Just what do you think we're going to suffer a lack of that will cause
our economy to "collapse overnight"? Our imports from China are
primarily low-priced consumer goods.


And our workers are primarily low-paid consumers, who can't afford to
get their clothes and what-not at Saks 5th Avenue, so buy them at
Wal-Mart; which is one of the few surviving stores in my town of 15,000,
thanks to their running everybody else out of business with all their
Chinese imports... I buy socks, underwear, shoes, and shirts at Wal-Mart
for less than I did in 1985 despite inflation, which shows you just how
much China undercut the American textile industry's indigenous
production capacity.
And due to the low wages, American workers count on those cheap imports
to survive...cut them off and it gets a lot harder to make ends meet for
a lot of people.

Chinese imports amount (using
American accounting methods) to some $125 billion. Now compare that
amount to the overall size of the American and Chinese economies and
figure out who gets hurt worse when it stops.


China can still make its own clothes for its people; can we?
Given a choice, do you think China would like to be a second string
economy, or the leading economic power in the world in twenty years?
If they could accomplish that by bringing down the existing economic
status quo of the world, do you think they would?
Remember, we are talking about Godless commies here...



Total US IMPORTS amount to some $1.76 trillion. Chinese goods make up
less than 10% of our imports. On the other hand, we are their largest
export market.



Ever see what the trade deficits look like of recent?
http://mwhodges.home.att.net/reserves.htm
A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you're talking real
money.

Yes, it seems obvious that China imposing an embargo on the US would
cause a national economy to implode, all right. It just wouldn't be
ours.



The Chinese are used to living at a far lower standard of living than we
are, and could soak that up- they have the rest of the world to trade
with if we leave. The manufacturing potential they have developed for
export could also be used to raise the standard of living in China itself.
I still think this is fate coming to bite Churchill's "English Speaking
Race" in the ass as payback for the loathsome Opium War. ;-)

Pat

"Christopher M. Jones" wrote in message
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A more dramatic example would be that of the Barbary
pirates. An anemy of the US from back around the turn
of the 19th century. The US agreed to pay out bribes to
the Barbary pirates in order to keep them from attacking
US shipping. The Barbary pirates learned this game very
quickly and periodically escalated their payment demands.
This eventually caused the US to get fed up and dramatically
increase the size of its young Navy. After which the
US made war against the Barbary pirates, won that war, and
proceeded to dictate terms to the pirates. They were
bothered quite a bit less by the Barbary pirates
thereafter.

The Norwegians did it first. Except the part about winning. (They went to
war with the pirates, were defeated, and had to pay even more in bribes to
get back their sailors.)

Pat Flannery wrote:
Rand Simberg wrote:

Well, Cher did almost as well...



Son, Son, Sonny Bono, conservative as can be...
Watch out for that tree! :-)

Pat


Did they plant a tree in Sonny's honor?

No, the tree planted him. 8*\



Rusty

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 14:35:54 -0600, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

Chinese imports amount (using
American accounting methods) to some $125 billion. Now compare that
amount to the overall size of the American and Chinese economies and
figure out who gets hurt worse when it stops.


China can still make its own clothes for its people; can we?

We certainly could, if we had to--we did once, after all. We'd be a
much poorer nation for it, though.

Rand Simberg wrote:

We certainly could, if we had to--we did once, after all. We'd be a
much poorer nation for it, though.



Exactly how long will it take to rebuild the textile mills, get the raw
materials imported or back into indigenous production, and train the
people to operate the machinery competently? Plus getting all the
patterns and sizes right for the clothing that is going to be made?
Right now you could find enough ex-textile workers to man the mills with
luck- will that be the case in say twenty years?

Pat

Pat Flannery wrote in
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Rand Simberg wrote:

We certainly could, if we had to--we did once, after all. We'd be a
much poorer nation for it, though.



Exactly how long will it take to rebuild the textile mills, get the
raw materials imported or back into indigenous production, and train
the people to operate the machinery competently? Plus getting all the
patterns and sizes right for the clothing that is going to be made?
Right now you could find enough ex-textile workers to man the mills
with luck- will that be the case in say twenty years?

Might want to check the statistics on domestic production first.
Could be some surprises there.

--Damon

Damon Hill wrote:


Might want to check the statistics on domestic production first.
Could be some surprises there.



Read 'em and weep...into a Chinese-made handkerchief of course:
http://www.amtacdc.org/media/040211.asp

Pat

In article 422a8990$0$22653$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au, says...
"Christopher M. Jones" wrote in message
...

I hate to spoil your so carefully crafted critique of US
foreign and military policy, but you seem to be lacking a
few key facts. Namely that the US has used and does use
bribery on the battlefield when necessary. Recall, if you
will, the many large bounties on the heads of key
officials in the Taliban, Al'qaeda, and in the Iraqi
Ba'athist government.

Note that it wasn't the key officials who were being bribed, though ...

Exactly. Bounties are not bribes. A bounty plan presents entirely
different opportunities and risks from a bribe plan, and in the tribal
environment of Afghanistan, isn't nearly as effective.

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