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  #971  
Old September 6th 09, 11:28 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
Robert Higgins
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On Sep 6, 1:35*am, Pat Flannery wrote:
Robert Higgins wrote:

Or couldn't figure how to patch a two foot hole in the side of the
boat, though he was on an island overgrown with palm and coconut
trees.


Don't you remember? He tried that, but the glue failed before they could
get underway, because Gilligan didn't mix it up right.
If I'd been on that island, Gilligan would have been White Shark bait
around two weeks in.
Or maybe not... maybe the best thing to do was hook wires to his
testicles leading back to around fifty open coconuts with copper and
zinc strips in them...and start stirring them.
If that can power a radio, it sure as hell can burn his little worthless
balls off.

Pat


:-)

  #972  
Old September 6th 09, 02:24 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
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Pat Flannery wrote:
Robert Higgins wrote:

Or couldn't figure how to patch a two foot hole in the side of the
boat, though he was on an island overgrown with palm and coconut
trees.


Don't you remember? He tried that, but the glue failed before they could
get underway, because Gilligan didn't mix it up right.


No. That was a typical plot in which Gilligan *seemed* to have found
the way off the island by creating (by accident, naturally) a
super-strong waterproof glue.

Unfortunately, the glue apparently had a short life after bonding.

If I'd been on that island, Gilligan would have been White Shark bait
around two weeks in.
Or maybe not... maybe the best thing to do was hook wires to his
testicles leading back to around fifty open coconuts with copper and
zinc strips in them...and start stirring them.
If that can power a radio, it sure as hell can burn his little worthless
balls off.


You would have ATTEMPTED that, and then discovered that you died an
amusing death. Gilligan is the classic invulnerable innocent.


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  #973  
Old September 6th 09, 04:09 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.phtysics,sci.econ
Walter Bushell[_2_]
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In article
,
chazworth wrote:

On Sep 3, 12:24*am, Walter Bushell wrote:
In article ,
*"Rod Speed" wrote:



Walter Bushell wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Giga "Giga" wrote
wrote
Sean O'Hara wrote
wrote
Giga "Giga"
wrote
Greg Goss wrote


They laughed at Columbus because they knew that the water
tanks and food supplies on his ship could never let him reach
Japan.
And you know what? *The intellectuals were right about that.


But ships very often stopped somewhere, like a small island, to
resupply such things.


And what islands might that be?


If we assume as a point of departure that the Americas are
submerged, say one kilometer, there'd be a huge archipelago
consisting of the Andes, Rockies, Sierra Nevadas, etc, and a
smaller one for the Appalachians. Columbus still could've landed
on Hispanola, though it would've been a small island chain.


In that scenario, you are less than half way to Japan.


Absent a good map, the odds of stumbling upon one
of the few islands on the way to Japan is near zero.


No


Seems the map makers disagree and have the vast majority of islands
in
the Pacific south of Japan.


The vast majority is completely irrelevant, even those without any nav
aids or maps managed to find those as isolated as Easter Island etc.


And non volcanic. If a major eruption is going on an island can be
detected
from far away.


They didnt need anything like that to find Easter Island.


It is common of people to go off on cruises to nowhere
after they have lost a war and lack resources.


FAR more often they go to places like Easter Island for other reasons.


Sometimes they find new land. How else was Hawaii settled?


It certainly wasnt by randomly cruising around until they found
something.


Easter Island in spades.


True, and those people were adept at finding clues. But they did not
find Pitcairn island, AFAIK.


Actually you don't know that. WHy would they have settled there when
there were so many other more amenable islands all over polynesia?
Pitcairn is a hell hole.


Unable to sustain itself even today with modern technology, produces no
exports and needs to import, no good harbor, and can't sustain a viable
population. Aside from that it's paradise.
  #974  
Old September 6th 09, 04:43 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
Louann Miller
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Pat Flannery wrote in
dakotatelephone:

If I'd been on that island, Gilligan would have been White Shark bait
around two weeks in.


Oh, next you'll tell us you'd have killed Dr. Smith. Or simply moved a
little slower next time he was in mortal peril from his own stupidity.

  #975  
Old September 6th 09, 08:50 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
Rod Speed
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chazworth wrote
Walter Bushell wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Walter Bushell wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Giga "Giga" wrote
wrote
Sean O'Hara wrote
wrote
Giga "Giga"
wrote
Greg Goss wrote


They laughed at Columbus because they knew that the water
tanks and food supplies on his ship could never let him reach Japan.


And you know what? The intellectuals were right about that.


But ships very often stopped somewhere, like a small
island, to resupply such things.


And what islands might that be?


If we assume as a point of departure that the Americas are
submerged, say one kilometer, there'd be a huge archipelago
consisting of the Andes, Rockies, Sierra Nevadas, etc, and a
smaller one for the Appalachians. Columbus still could've landed
on Hispanola, though it would've been a small island chain.


In that scenario, you are less than half way to Japan.


Absent a good map, the odds of stumbling upon one
of the few islands on the way to Japan is near zero.


No


Seems the map makers disagree and have the vast
majority of islands in the Pacific south of Japan.


The vast majority is completely irrelevant, even those without any nav
aids or maps managed to find those as isolated as Easter Island etc.


And non volcanic. If a major eruption is going on an island can be detected from far away.


They didnt need anything like that to find Easter Island.


It is common of people to go off on cruises to nowhere
after they have lost a war and lack resources.


FAR more often they go to places like Easter Island for other reasons.


Sometimes they find new land. How else was Hawaii settled?


It certainly wasnt by randomly cruising around until they found something.


Easter Island in spades.


True, and those people were adept at finding clues.
But they did not find Pitcairn island, AFAIK.


Actually you don't know that.


In fact we know they did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands#History

WHy would they have settled there when there were so
many other more amenable islands all over polynesia?


We'll likely never know. They did anyway. Maybe they didnt like
the prospect of being eaten by those on those other islands etc.

Pitcairn is a hell hole.


Certainly much better places to live, but then they were mostly already taken.


  #976  
Old September 6th 09, 08:57 PM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
Rod Speed
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Walter Bushell wrote
chazworth wrote
Walter Bushell wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Walter Bushell wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Giga "Giga" wrote
wrote
Sean O'Hara wrote
wrote
Giga "Giga" wrote
Greg Goss wrote


They laughed at Columbus because they knew that the water tanks
and food supplies on his ship could never let him reach Japan.


And you know what? The intellectuals were right about that.


But ships very often stopped somewhere, like a small island, to resupply such things.


And what islands might that be?


If we assume as a point of departure that the Americas are
submerged, say one kilometer, there'd be a huge archipelago
consisting of the Andes, Rockies, Sierra Nevadas, etc, and a
smaller one for the Appalachians. Columbus still could've landed
on Hispanola, though it would've been a small island chain.


In that scenario, you are less than half way to Japan.


Absent a good map, the odds of stumbling upon one
of the few islands on the way to Japan is near zero.


No


Seems the map makers disagree and have the vast
majority of islands in the Pacific south of Japan.


The vast majority is completely irrelevant, even those without any nav
aids or maps managed to find those as isolated as Easter Island etc.


And non volcanic. If a major eruption is going on an island can be detected from far away.


They didnt need anything like that to find Easter Island.


It is common of people to go off on cruises to nowhere
after they have lost a war and lack resources.


FAR more often they go to places like Easter Island for other reasons.


Sometimes they find new land. How else was Hawaii settled?


It certainly wasnt by randomly cruising around until they found something.


Easter Island in spades.


True, and those people were adept at finding clues.
But they did not find Pitcairn island, AFAIK.


Actually you don't know that. WHy would they have settled there when
there were so many other more amenable islands all over polynesia?
Pitcairn is a hell hole.


Unable to sustain itself even today with modern technology,
produces no exports and needs to import, no good harbor,


Those clearly werent what mattered when it was colonised by the polynesians.

and can't sustain a viable population.


Clearly it could for hundreds of years.

Aside from that it's paradise.




  #977  
Old September 7th 09, 02:25 AM posted to alt.philosophy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.history,sci.physics,sci.econ
Walter Bushell[_2_]
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Default Why Colonize Space?

In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

Walter Bushell wrote
chazworth wrote
Walter Bushell wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Walter Bushell wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Giga "Giga" wrote
wrote
Sean O'Hara wrote
wrote
Giga "Giga"
wrote
Greg Goss wrote


They laughed at Columbus because they knew that the water tanks
and food supplies on his ship could never let him reach Japan.


And you know what? The intellectuals were right about that.


But ships very often stopped somewhere, like a small island, to
resupply such things.


And what islands might that be?


If we assume as a point of departure that the Americas are
submerged, say one kilometer, there'd be a huge archipelago
consisting of the Andes, Rockies, Sierra Nevadas, etc, and a
smaller one for the Appalachians. Columbus still could've landed
on Hispanola, though it would've been a small island chain.


In that scenario, you are less than half way to Japan.


Absent a good map, the odds of stumbling upon one
of the few islands on the way to Japan is near zero.


No


Seems the map makers disagree and have the vast
majority of islands in the Pacific south of Japan.


The vast majority is completely irrelevant, even those without any nav
aids or maps managed to find those as isolated as Easter Island etc.


And non volcanic. If a major eruption is going on an island can be
detected from far away.


They didnt need anything like that to find Easter Island.


It is common of people to go off on cruises to nowhere
after they have lost a war and lack resources.


FAR more often they go to places like Easter Island for other reasons.


Sometimes they find new land. How else was Hawaii settled?


It certainly wasnt by randomly cruising around until they found
something.


Easter Island in spades.


True, and those people were adept at finding clues.
But they did not find Pitcairn island, AFAIK.


Actually you don't know that. WHy would they have settled there when
there were so many other more amenable islands all over polynesia?
Pitcairn is a hell hole.


Unable to sustain itself even today with modern technology,
produces no exports and needs to import, no good harbor,


Those clearly werent what mattered when it was colonised by the polynesians.

and can't sustain a viable population.


Clearly it could for hundreds of years.


A mere split millennium.

Aside from that it's paradise.

 




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