A Space & astronomy forum. SpaceBanter.com

Go Back   Home » SpaceBanter.com forum » Others » Astro Pictures
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets were born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. - solarsystem.pdf (0/1)



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old December 7th 10, 01:43 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.astro
dan@@pixelphase.com
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 76
Default The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets were born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. - solarsystem.pdf (0/1)

Hi,

The sun energy source is not fusion. The sun and other stars are
heated by magnetic fields from the supermassive black hole at the
center of the Milky Way galaxy.
With this idea it is possible to trace the formation of the solar
system. The sun and stars formed separately. First the sun formed and
then after some time the planets formed. Red giants are not dieing
stars. Stars fluctuate all the time from being a red giant to being a
regular star. The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago as evident
from meteorite age. The solar planets formed from the strong solar
wind of the red giant sun.

For more details read the article:

http://www.philica.com/display_artic...article_id=210

http://www.pixelphase.com/sun/solarsystem.pdf


Abstract

How the solar system formed, is a puzzle that challenged scientists
for many centuries. The current accepted theory is the Solar Nebula
Hypothesis originated by Kant and Laplace in the 18th century. In
reference 1 it was suggested that the sun energy source is not fusion
but magnetic fields from the center of the galaxy. The Solar nebula
Hypothesis cannot coexist with a sun powered by magnetic fields. As
shown on reference 4, those magnetic fields create mass that slowly
increase the mass of the sun. The sun is growing not from dust from
the interstellar space but from synthesis of new particles in the sun
interior. The sun and the planets formed separately, the sun came
first and then the planets follow.
In the standard solar model stars are turned into red giants when the
hydrogen in their core is depleted and the energy production stop.
Stars do not work on fusion, but on magnetic fields, so they turn into
a red giant when their energy supply from the magnetic field is
stopped. Stars that have a very long Maunder minimum, for tens of
million of years, in which their stellar cycle is weak, will turn into
a red giant.
The exoplanet search programs found that stars with planets have
higher metallicity compared to stars without planets. The metallicity
of a star depends on its mass. Massive stars have higher pressure and
temperature in their core that increase the fusion rate of heavy
elements. Stars with planet, that show higher metallicity, had higher
mass in the past that created the high metallicity. They went through
a significant mass loss that decreased their mass but did not change
the high metallicity. Those stars significant mass loss occur when
they turned into red giants. Red giants have strong stellar wind that
disperses the star outer layers into interstellar space. This stellar
wind creates comets that form planets around the star. The high
metallicity of the sun indicates that it was a red giant. The solar
planets where born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. The solar
system shows many evidences in support of an ancient red giant sun.
The energy calculation in reference 4 suggests that stars are slowly
growing by converting the energy from the magnetic fields to mass. The
gradual mass increase indicates that more massive stars are also
older, so according to the standard solar model there is a mix up
between older and younger stars. Older stars are not the smaller stars
like red dwarfs but the heavier stars like blue giants. The idea that
stars are slowly growing from small sizes, and the fact that the
latest exoplanet search programs found large number of exoplanets,
leads to the conclusion that stars originate from planets. The
development steps leading to the creation of stars from planets
include: growth of the planet by cold accretion of comets and
asteroids; separation of the planet from the star; magnetic ignition
of the planet when it reaches the size of a brown dwarf; and growth of
the star by conversion of the energy from the magnetic fields to mass.

Regards,
Dan Bar-Zohar
  #2  
Old December 7th 10, 01:57 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.astro
Sjouke Burry[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 402
Default The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets wereborn from the solar wind of the red giant sun. - solarsystem.pdf (0/1)

wrote:
Hi,

The sun energy source is not fusion. The sun and other stars are
heated by magnetic fields


You would not recognize a magnet if you stumbled across one.

Magnetism is about the weakest field in a galaxy.

Do you always confuse fantasy an science??
  #3  
Old December 7th 10, 02:40 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.astro
Rick Johnson[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,085
Default The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets wereborn from the solar wind of the red giant sun. - solarsystem.pdf (0/1)

April 1 is a bit late this year it would seem.

Gee, my Dr. Who seems downright reasonable compared to this.

Rick

On 12/6/2010 6:43 PM, wrote:
Hi,

The sun energy source is not fusion. The sun and other stars are
heated by magnetic fields from the supermassive black hole at the
center of the Milky Way galaxy.
With this idea it is possible to trace the formation of the solar
system. The sun and stars formed separately. First the sun formed and
then after some time the planets formed. Red giants are not dieing
stars. Stars fluctuate all the time from being a red giant to being a
regular star. The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago as evident
from meteorite age. The solar planets formed from the strong solar
wind of the red giant sun.

For more details read the article:

http://www.philica.com/display_artic...article_id=210

http://www.pixelphase.com/sun/solarsystem.pdf


Abstract

How the solar system formed, is a puzzle that challenged scientists
for many centuries. The current accepted theory is the Solar Nebula
Hypothesis originated by Kant and Laplace in the 18th century. In
reference 1 it was suggested that the sun energy source is not fusion
but magnetic fields from the center of the galaxy. The Solar nebula
Hypothesis cannot coexist with a sun powered by magnetic fields. As
shown on reference 4, those magnetic fields create mass that slowly
increase the mass of the sun. The sun is growing not from dust from
the interstellar space but from synthesis of new particles in the sun
interior. The sun and the planets formed separately, the sun came
first and then the planets follow.
In the standard solar model stars are turned into red giants when the
hydrogen in their core is depleted and the energy production stop.
Stars do not work on fusion, but on magnetic fields, so they turn into
a red giant when their energy supply from the magnetic field is
stopped. Stars that have a very long Maunder minimum, for tens of
million of years, in which their stellar cycle is weak, will turn into
a red giant.
The exoplanet search programs found that stars with planets have
higher metallicity compared to stars without planets. The metallicity
of a star depends on its mass. Massive stars have higher pressure and
temperature in their core that increase the fusion rate of heavy
elements. Stars with planet, that show higher metallicity, had higher
mass in the past that created the high metallicity. They went through
a significant mass loss that decreased their mass but did not change
the high metallicity. Those stars significant mass loss occur when
they turned into red giants. Red giants have strong stellar wind that
disperses the star outer layers into interstellar space. This stellar
wind creates comets that form planets around the star. The high
metallicity of the sun indicates that it was a red giant. The solar
planets where born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. The solar
system shows many evidences in support of an ancient red giant sun.
The energy calculation in reference 4 suggests that stars are slowly
growing by converting the energy from the magnetic fields to mass. The
gradual mass increase indicates that more massive stars are also
older, so according to the standard solar model there is a mix up
between older and younger stars. Older stars are not the smaller stars
like red dwarfs but the heavier stars like blue giants. The idea that
stars are slowly growing from small sizes, and the fact that the
latest exoplanet search programs found large number of exoplanets,
leads to the conclusion that stars originate from planets. The
development steps leading to the creation of stars from planets
include: growth of the planet by cold accretion of comets and
asteroids; separation of the planet from the star; magnetic ignition
of the planet when it reaches the size of a brown dwarf; and growth of
the star by conversion of the energy from the magnetic fields to mass.

Regards,
Dan Bar-Zohar



--
Correct domain name is arvig and it is net not com. Prefix is correct.
Third character is a zero rather than a capital "Oh".
  #4  
Old December 7th 10, 08:58 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.astro
Gertrude
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets were born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. - solarsystem.pdf (0/1)

wrote:
Hi,

The sun energy source is not fusion. The sun and other stars are
heated by magnetic fields


You would not recognize a magnet if you stumbled across one.

Magnetism is about the weakest field in a galaxy.

Do you always confuse fantasy an science??


Don't Feed The Trolls
--
I Know That I Know What I Know
  #5  
Old December 13th 10, 07:27 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.astro
dan@@pixelphase.com
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 76
Default The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets were born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. - solarsystem.pdf (0/1)

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 01:57:17 +0100, Sjouke Burry
wrote:

Magnetism is about the weakest field in a galaxy.


Weak magnetic fields are the main argument against this theory. I did
a calaculation that show that the low resistivity of the sun can turn
the weak magnetic fields into alot of energy.

http://www.philica.com/display_artic...article_id=208

Dan Bar-Zohar


wrote:
Hi,

The sun energy source is not fusion. The sun and other stars are
heated by magnetic fields


You would not recognize a magnet if you stumbled across one.

Magnetism is about the weakest field in a galaxy.

Do you always confuse fantasy an science??

 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets were born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. dan@@pixelphase.com SETI 1 May 23rd 11 02:53 AM
The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets were born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. dan@@pixelphase.com CCD Imaging 0 December 7th 10 01:47 AM
The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets were born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. dan@@pixelphase.com Amateur Astronomy 5 November 17th 10 07:07 PM
A Giant Surprise about Extrasolar Planets Magnificent Universe Amateur Astronomy 2 September 13th 05 04:44 PM
Deep roots of solar wind help predict space weathe across the solarsystem Jacques van Oene News 0 May 20th 05 12:06 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 SpaceBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.