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NASA moon-mapping mission to come to a crashing end
On Dec 16, 5:53*am, bob haller wrote:
On Dec 16, 3:20*am, Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: On Dec 15, 8:13*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: On Dec 15, 5:25*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: Me wrote: On Dec 15, 4:04*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: it makes sense to do the crash...... its mission and extended mission are complete no doubt they will have equiptement looking for water after the dual crashes You were doing so well. *Then you had to say the following.... it elminates the possiblity a later uncontrolled crash could hit and damage apollo or other legacy sites So they're avoiding a one in Lord knows how many quadrillion possibility? *Really? Really. *It is a legitimate reason Really. *Look at the odds. *It's not. And if that 1:1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance happens and it DOES hit one of them, where's the down side? On Friday, thrusters on each satellite will fire to guide the spacecraft toward the unnamed mountain. The maneuver will also ensure the satellites avoid striking landing sites from the Apollo, Surveyor and Soviet space programs. Engineers calculated there was a 1- in-125,000 chance the satellites would hit one of the heritage landing sites, according to David Lehman, GRAIL project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory I'm sorry, but that's an insane set of probabilities! *I don't believe it. someday in the future space archealogists may want to visit those landing sites for research purposes. Why? *We know more about them than could ever be discerned by visiting them. no matter what ebb and flow are going to crash into the moon. there isnt fuel to prevent it..... Well, you finally got something right. at least this way they get some science out of it... And that's a decent reason. ...and prevent possible damage to historic sites And that makes no sense whatsoever. Fred no doubt you would like indenpendence hall in philadephia to be demolished for condos....... Bobbert, you making up silly **** and then proclaiming it's my opinion doesn't change my opinion. *It merely makes you look like a delusional halfwit. you have no sense of history And you have no sense. *Period. It goes with your inability to read simple English sentences, I suppose. -- "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is *only stupid." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine fred i find it amazing that you hold a paying job, I pity your co workers if you act in real life anything like you do here....... most companies weed out offensive people since its bad for worker morale.... in addition your a very closed mind kinda person, which must add to defense spending costs..... imagine what our world could accomplish if all we had were police, and fighting between nations and terrorists ended....... it would put you out of work.... Fred would find another way of starting up a proxy war. |
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NASA moon-mapping mission to come to a crashing end
Now let's talk about something that's an actual possibility. *Suppose they reduce Social Security benefits and raise the age for Medicare. You'd Never be able to stop struggling to make a living. *Me, I could retire tomorrow, if I really wanted to.... thanks to being a defense contractor worker, they are severly overpaid..... just as you are.... |
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NASA moon-mapping mission to come to a crashing end
fred what specifically are the disadvantages of controlled crash of
these sats? |
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NASA moon-mapping mission to come to a crashing end
On Dec 18, 9:48*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: Now let's talk about something that's an actual possibility. Suppose they reduce Social Security benefits and raise the age for Medicare. You'd Never be able to stop struggling to make a living. Me, I could retire tomorrow, if I really wanted to.... thanks to being a defense contractor worker, they are severly overpaid..... just as you are.... And Bobbert once again displays his ignorance. Bobbert, if you can do what I do and will do it for a lot less, you probably would. *If you're so convinced that people who work for large companies (and folks working for defense contractors aren't paid any more than anywhere else), you must be remarkably stupid to not have gotten such a job. Oh, wait. *You have to actually have skills and be good at something to get one of ethos jobs. *I guess that's why you don't have one.... -- "You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of *your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Mark Twain defense related jobs are usually grossy overpaid. |
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On Dec 18, 6:32*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: On Dec 18, 9:48*am, Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: Now let's talk about something that's an actual possibility. Suppose they reduce Social Security benefits and raise the age for Medicare.. You'd Never be able to stop struggling to make a living. Me, I could retire tomorrow, if I really wanted to.... thanks to being a defense contractor worker, they are severly overpaid..... just as you are.... And Bobbert once again displays his ignorance. Bobbert, if you can do what I do and will do it for a lot less, you probably would. *If you're so convinced that people who work for large companies (and folks working for defense contractors aren't paid any more than anywhere else), you must be remarkably stupid to not have gotten such a job. Oh, wait. *You have to actually have skills and be good at something to get one of ethos jobs. *I guess that's why you don't have one.... defense related jobs are usually grossy overpaid. What utter rot! *See above. If your claim is true, why didn't you get such a job? *Are you just stupid or is it that you lack the talent to do the work? In your case,, I vote for 'both' as the correct answer. -- "You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of *your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Mark Twain There are probably near no defense related jobs in pittsburgh and besides i was never interested in finding more ways to kill people.... but knowing some friends in defense related jobs, while regular jobs pay well at 20 bucks a hour the defense jobs pay 3 times that. |
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On 2012-12-19 04:30:46 +0000, bob haller said:
defense related jobs are usually grossy overpaid. There are probably near no defense related jobs in pittsburgh and besides i was never interested in finding more ways to kill people.... but knowing some friends in defense related jobs, while regular jobs pay well at 20 bucks a hour the defense jobs pay 3 times that. Well, here in Houston there are lots of aerospace jobs with NASA. They have good salaries for engineers and professionals but it doesn't pay as well as the oil industry nearby. Gov't contractors don't get a lot of profit. The oil companies have no such restrictions. Pick your industry and be happy with it or move on. |
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NASA moon-mapping mission to come to a crashing end
On 12/15/2012 8:13 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: On Friday, thrusters on each satellite will fire to guide the spacecraft toward the unnamed mountain. The maneuver will also ensure the satellites avoid striking landing sites from the Apollo, Surveyor and Soviet space programs. Engineers calculated there was a 1- in-125,000 chance the satellites would hit one of the heritage landing sites, according to David Lehman, GRAIL project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory I'm sorry, but that's an insane set of probabilities! I don't believe it. Well, it depends on how you define "striking landing sites". A direct impact is as you know very improbable. But, there could be a speck of dust ejected into one of Armstrong's footstep, even if the actual impact is 1000 km away. Alain Fournier |
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Alain Fournier wrote:
Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: On Friday, thrusters on each satellite will fire to guide the spacecraft toward the unnamed mountain. The maneuver will also ensure the satellites avoid striking landing sites from the Apollo, Surveyor and Soviet space programs. Engineers calculated there was a 1- in-125,000 chance the satellites would hit one of the heritage landing sites, according to David Lehman, GRAIL project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory I'm sorry, but that's an insane set of probabilities! I don't believe it. Well, it depends on how you define "striking landing sites". A direct impact is as you know very improbable. But, there could be a speck of dust ejected into one of Armstrong's footstep, even if the actual impact is 1000 km away. I wonder how much was wiped out when the LEM took off. |
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NASA moon-mapping mission to come to a crashing end
On Dec 26, 3:58*pm, Doug Freyburger wrote:
Alain Fournier wrote: Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: On Friday, thrusters on each satellite will fire to guide the spacecraft toward the unnamed mountain. The maneuver will also ensure the satellites avoid striking landing sites from the Apollo, Surveyor and Soviet space programs. Engineers calculated there was a 1- in-125,000 chance the satellites would hit one of the heritage landing sites, according to David Lehman, GRAIL project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory I'm sorry, but that's an insane set of probabilities! *I don't believe it. Well, it depends on how you define "striking landing sites". A direct impact is as you know very improbable. But, there could be a speck of dust ejected into one of Armstrong's footstep, even if the actual impact is 1000 km away. I wonder how much was wiped out when the LEM took off. no doubt many footprints were scoured by the exhaust, not so much on flights where astronauts walked or drove far distances. still its good to protect whatever remains |
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NASA moon-mapping mission to come to a crashing end
On Dec 26, 2:47*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Dec 26, 3:58*pm, Doug Freyburger wrote: Alain Fournier wrote: Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: On Friday, thrusters on each satellite will fire to guide the spacecraft toward the unnamed mountain. The maneuver will also ensure the satellites avoid striking landing sites from the Apollo, Surveyor and Soviet space programs. Engineers calculated there was a 1- in-125,000 chance the satellites would hit one of the heritage landing sites, according to David Lehman, GRAIL project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory I'm sorry, but that's an insane set of probabilities! *I don't believe it. Well, it depends on how you define "striking landing sites". A direct impact is as you know very improbable. But, there could be a speck of dust ejected into one of Armstrong's footstep, even if the actual impact is 1000 km away. I wonder how much was wiped out when the LEM took off. no doubt many footprints were scoured by the exhaust, not so much on flights where astronauts walked or drove far distances. still its good to protect whatever remains That naked surface attracts all sorts of impacts that would never be drawn anywhere near ISS. ISS is still protected extensively by the geomagnetic field surrounding us, whereas the physically dark and naked moon has no such protective benefits. Each surface impact on the moon also generates millions of secondary shards capable of individually moving at more than a km/sec if not nearly or even above escape velocity. That moon is also surrounded by a substantial cloud or exosphere of its own highly ionized sodium. http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”,GuthVenus “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...18595926178146 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# |
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