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ASTRO: NGC 210 An Arp-like galaxy
NGC 210 sure belongs on Arp's list though somehow he missed it. Could
be the detail just wasn't visible to film of his time but the dust lanes were known in 1961 but without the internet he might have not found that paper. I had to really process the heck out of it to show the features near the core. Namely the odd dust lane(s) that cuts across everything and the ring of star clouds around the core. I see the dust lane on a couple internet images but didn't suspect the star clouds that popped out when I processed for the dust lane. I believe they are real as I can see them if I do a histogram stretch of the region with just the right values using the raw FITS file stack. The high pass filter though brought them out much better in the processed image. Most papers refer to there being two dust lanes. At first I thought I saw two, a short one coming from the north to the core and a much longer one coming in from the south but after processing they merged into one. If so it/they may be a foreground feature and not part of the galaxy at all. Unlikely but possible NGC 210 is also odd in that it has a bright inner core (greatly reduced in intensity in my image to preserve detail) that is a tight spiral disk with small nucleus. Outside this are two wide spread arms in a faint disk. There's only a faint hint of a bar connecting them to the inner bright region. Sort of like a barred spiral whose bar has faded nearly away. I find it classed SbI one place, S(rs)b another and SAB(s)b yet another. NGC project says SAB(s)bI. Take your pick. It lies some 60 to 70 million light years from us as best as I could determine. A radio image if the galaxy shows it has a HI (non ionized hydrogen) tail that extends down to and a bit past the galaxy to its southeast in my image, PGC 169998/2MASX J00410068-1358160. This is just a coincidence as that galaxy is some 700 million light years distant and thus not involved. Though the tail does indicate it has interacted with some other galaxy in the past. No it's not the one to the NE. I agree it is really strange as well and certainly could be a candidate. It is PGC2454/MCG -02-02-082 but it is 370 million light years from us so too isn't a candidate. But it sure ran into something it appears. More likely is NGC 178 out of the image to the southwest. It is still to be imaged unfortunately. These are at -14 degrees so further south than I can go except for rare nights. I never got another after taking NGC 210 last fall. There are other candidates such as PGC 2465 out of the image to the north northeast as well as some others that form a small group with NGC 210 being the core. All have red shift values in the 50 to 70 million light year range so likely do form a true group that could have had all sorts of interactions in the past. This field is not covered by the Sloan survey so few galaxies are cataloged and most that are are just anonymous listings in the UK automatic plate measurement survey that records only brightness and crude spectral data. A few IR galaxies from the 2MASS survey are included as well. The bright galaxy seen through the outer arms of NGC 210 at 4 O'clock is 2MASX J00403079-1353088. There's no distance data. The only other galaxy with a known red shift is southwest of 2MASX J00410068-1358160, the one the tail of NGC 210 extends to south east of NGC 210. Halfway between that galaxy and a bright blue star are a pair of spindle shaped galaxies. The one on the left is 2MASX J00404728-1400190 at 680 million light years, about the same as the much larger 2MASX J00410068-1358160. Several other small galaxies are in the area. Are they part of this group? I have no idea. Adam Block's image of this galaxy, http://www.noao.edu/outreach/aop/observers/n210.html, shows what appears to be an extended outer halo about the galaxy. I put more luminosity time into it, more than he did in fact, but I saw no sign of it in my stack. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=7x10', RGB=2x10'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME -- Correct domain name is arvig and it is net not com. Prefix is correct. Third character is a zero rather than a capital "Oh". |
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ASTRO: NGC 210 An Arp-like galaxy
An impressive galaxy - Cetus is in the Sacramento light dome where the LP gradients are horrendous but still worth a try. Good job. On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 00:38:37 -0500, Rick Johnson wrote: NGC 210 sure belongs on Arp's list though somehow he missed it. Could be the detail just wasn't visible to film of his time but the dust lanes were known in 1961 but without the internet he might have not found that paper. I had to really process the heck out of it to show the features near the core. Namely the odd dust lane(s) that cuts across everything and the ring of star clouds around the core. I see the dust lane on a couple internet images but didn't suspect the star clouds that popped out when I processed for the dust lane. I believe they are real as I can see them if I do a histogram stretch of the region with just the right values using the raw FITS file stack. The high pass filter though brought them out much better in the processed image. Most papers refer to there being two dust lanes. At first I thought I saw two, a short one coming from the north to the core and a much longer one coming in from the south but after processing they merged into one. If so it/they may be a foreground feature and not part of the galaxy at all. Unlikely but possible NGC 210 is also odd in that it has a bright inner core (greatly reduced in intensity in my image to preserve detail) that is a tight spiral disk with small nucleus. Outside this are two wide spread arms in a faint disk. There's only a faint hint of a bar connecting them to the inner bright region. Sort of like a barred spiral whose bar has faded nearly away. I find it classed SbI one place, S(rs)b another and SAB(s)b yet another. NGC project says SAB(s)bI. Take your pick. It lies some 60 to 70 million light years from us as best as I could determine. A radio image if the galaxy shows it has a HI (non ionized hydrogen) tail that extends down to and a bit past the galaxy to its southeast in my image, PGC 169998/2MASX J00410068-1358160. This is just a coincidence as that galaxy is some 700 million light years distant and thus not involved. Though the tail does indicate it has interacted with some other galaxy in the past. No it's not the one to the NE. I agree it is really strange as well and certainly could be a candidate. It is PGC2454/MCG -02-02-082 but it is 370 million light years from us so too isn't a candidate. But it sure ran into something it appears. More likely is NGC 178 out of the image to the southwest. It is still to be imaged unfortunately. These are at -14 degrees so further south than I can go except for rare nights. I never got another after taking NGC 210 last fall. There are other candidates such as PGC 2465 out of the image to the north northeast as well as some others that form a small group with NGC 210 being the core. All have red shift values in the 50 to 70 million light year range so likely do form a true group that could have had all sorts of interactions in the past. This field is not covered by the Sloan survey so few galaxies are cataloged and most that are are just anonymous listings in the UK automatic plate measurement survey that records only brightness and crude spectral data. A few IR galaxies from the 2MASS survey are included as well. The bright galaxy seen through the outer arms of NGC 210 at 4 O'clock is 2MASX J00403079-1353088. There's no distance data. The only other galaxy with a known red shift is southwest of 2MASX J00410068-1358160, the one the tail of NGC 210 extends to south east of NGC 210. Halfway between that galaxy and a bright blue star are a pair of spindle shaped galaxies. The one on the left is 2MASX J00404728-1400190 at 680 million light years, about the same as the much larger 2MASX J00410068-1358160. Several other small galaxies are in the area. Are they part of this group? I have no idea. Adam Block's image of this galaxy, http://www.noao.edu/outreach/aop/observers/n210.html, shows what appears to be an extended outer halo about the galaxy. I put more luminosity time into it, more than he did in fact, but I saw no sign of it in my stack. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=7x10', RGB=2x10'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME |
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ASTRO: NGC 210 An Arp-like galaxy
Great result for such a southern object Rick. Actually this was on my list
for Namibia last year :-) Stefan "Rick Johnson" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ter.com... NGC 210 sure belongs on Arp's list though somehow he missed it. Could be the detail just wasn't visible to film of his time but the dust lanes were known in 1961 but without the internet he might have not found that paper. I had to really process the heck out of it to show the features near the core. Namely the odd dust lane(s) that cuts across everything and the ring of star clouds around the core. I see the dust lane on a couple internet images but didn't suspect the star clouds that popped out when I processed for the dust lane. I believe they are real as I can see them if I do a histogram stretch of the region with just the right values using the raw FITS file stack. The high pass filter though brought them out much better in the processed image. Most papers refer to there being two dust lanes. At first I thought I saw two, a short one coming from the north to the core and a much longer one coming in from the south but after processing they merged into one. If so it/they may be a foreground feature and not part of the galaxy at all. Unlikely but possible NGC 210 is also odd in that it has a bright inner core (greatly reduced in intensity in my image to preserve detail) that is a tight spiral disk with small nucleus. Outside this are two wide spread arms in a faint disk. There's only a faint hint of a bar connecting them to the inner bright region. Sort of like a barred spiral whose bar has faded nearly away. I find it classed SbI one place, S(rs)b another and SAB(s)b yet another. NGC project says SAB(s)bI. Take your pick. It lies some 60 to 70 million light years from us as best as I could determine. A radio image if the galaxy shows it has a HI (non ionized hydrogen) tail that extends down to and a bit past the galaxy to its southeast in my image, PGC 169998/2MASX J00410068-1358160. This is just a coincidence as that galaxy is some 700 million light years distant and thus not involved. Though the tail does indicate it has interacted with some other galaxy in the past. No it's not the one to the NE. I agree it is really strange as well and certainly could be a candidate. It is PGC2454/MCG -02-02-082 but it is 370 million light years from us so too isn't a candidate. But it sure ran into something it appears. More likely is NGC 178 out of the image to the southwest. It is still to be imaged unfortunately. These are at -14 degrees so further south than I can go except for rare nights. I never got another after taking NGC 210 last fall. There are other candidates such as PGC 2465 out of the image to the north northeast as well as some others that form a small group with NGC 210 being the core. All have red shift values in the 50 to 70 million light year range so likely do form a true group that could have had all sorts of interactions in the past. This field is not covered by the Sloan survey so few galaxies are cataloged and most that are are just anonymous listings in the UK automatic plate measurement survey that records only brightness and crude spectral data. A few IR galaxies from the 2MASS survey are included as well. The bright galaxy seen through the outer arms of NGC 210 at 4 O'clock is 2MASX J00403079-1353088. There's no distance data. The only other galaxy with a known red shift is southwest of 2MASX J00410068-1358160, the one the tail of NGC 210 extends to south east of NGC 210. Halfway between that galaxy and a bright blue star are a pair of spindle shaped galaxies. The one on the left is 2MASX J00404728-1400190 at 680 million light years, about the same as the much larger 2MASX J00410068-1358160. Several other small galaxies are in the area. Are they part of this group? I have no idea. Adam Block's image of this galaxy, http://www.noao.edu/outreach/aop/observers/n210.html, shows what appears to be an extended outer halo about the galaxy. I put more luminosity time into it, more than he did in fact, but I saw no sign of it in my stack. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=7x10', RGB=2x10'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME -- Correct domain name is arvig and it is net not com. Prefix is correct. Third character is a zero rather than a capital "Oh". |
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ASTRO: NGC 210 An Arp-like galaxy
Sorry all those clouds hit you in the desert. This would be much better
from down there. Though the night I took this was extraordinary. Normally this altitude has a good second of arc poorer seeing and a lot more extinction. When these nights hit I usually go south like here. Rick On 10/17/2010 3:06 PM, Stefan Lilge wrote: Great result for such a southern object Rick. Actually this was on my list for Namibia last year :-) Stefan "Rick schrieb im Newsbeitrag ter.com... NGC 210 sure belongs on Arp's list though somehow he missed it. Could be the detail just wasn't visible to film of his time but the dust lanes were known in 1961 but without the internet he might have not found that paper. I had to really process the heck out of it to show the features near the core. Namely the odd dust lane(s) that cuts across everything and the ring of star clouds around the core. I see the dust lane on a couple internet images but didn't suspect the star clouds that popped out when I processed for the dust lane. I believe they are real as I can see them if I do a histogram stretch of the region with just the right values using the raw FITS file stack. The high pass filter though brought them out much better in the processed image. Most papers refer to there being two dust lanes. At first I thought I saw two, a short one coming from the north to the core and a much longer one coming in from the south but after processing they merged into one. If so it/they may be a foreground feature and not part of the galaxy at all. Unlikely but possible NGC 210 is also odd in that it has a bright inner core (greatly reduced in intensity in my image to preserve detail) that is a tight spiral disk with small nucleus. Outside this are two wide spread arms in a faint disk. There's only a faint hint of a bar connecting them to the inner bright region. Sort of like a barred spiral whose bar has faded nearly away. I find it classed SbI one place, S(rs)b another and SAB(s)b yet another. NGC project says SAB(s)bI. Take your pick. It lies some 60 to 70 million light years from us as best as I could determine. A radio image if the galaxy shows it has a HI (non ionized hydrogen) tail that extends down to and a bit past the galaxy to its southeast in my image, PGC 169998/2MASX J00410068-1358160. This is just a coincidence as that galaxy is some 700 million light years distant and thus not involved. Though the tail does indicate it has interacted with some other galaxy in the past. No it's not the one to the NE. I agree it is really strange as well and certainly could be a candidate. It is PGC2454/MCG -02-02-082 but it is 370 million light years from us so too isn't a candidate. But it sure ran into something it appears. More likely is NGC 178 out of the image to the southwest. It is still to be imaged unfortunately. These are at -14 degrees so further south than I can go except for rare nights. I never got another after taking NGC 210 last fall. There are other candidates such as PGC 2465 out of the image to the north northeast as well as some others that form a small group with NGC 210 being the core. All have red shift values in the 50 to 70 million light year range so likely do form a true group that could have had all sorts of interactions in the past. This field is not covered by the Sloan survey so few galaxies are cataloged and most that are are just anonymous listings in the UK automatic plate measurement survey that records only brightness and crude spectral data. A few IR galaxies from the 2MASS survey are included as well. The bright galaxy seen through the outer arms of NGC 210 at 4 O'clock is 2MASX J00403079-1353088. There's no distance data. The only other galaxy with a known red shift is southwest of 2MASX J00410068-1358160, the one the tail of NGC 210 extends to south east of NGC 210. Halfway between that galaxy and a bright blue star are a pair of spindle shaped galaxies. The one on the left is 2MASX J00404728-1400190 at 680 million light years, about the same as the much larger 2MASX J00410068-1358160. Several other small galaxies are in the area. Are they part of this group? I have no idea. Adam Block's image of this galaxy, http://www.noao.edu/outreach/aop/observers/n210.html, shows what appears to be an extended outer halo about the galaxy. I put more luminosity time into it, more than he did in fact, but I saw no sign of it in my stack. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=7x10', RGB=2x10'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME -- Correct domain name is arvig and it is net not com. Prefix is correct. Third character is a zero rather than a capital "Oh". -- Correct domain name is arvig and it is net not com. Prefix is correct. Third character is a zero rather than a capital "Oh". |
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