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Enjoy - Hitler's Flying Saucers
This book is hilarious!! And it's all online at:
http://missilegate.com/rfz/index.htm Enjoy! Jim Davis |
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Enjoy - Hitler's Flying Saucers
Jim Davis wrote: This book is hilarious!! And it's all online at: http://missilegate.com/rfz/index.htm That is a fun read, I stumbled on it a few weeks back. They actually did make a disc-shaped aircraft during the war - this thing: http://www.luft46.com/misc/sackas6.html It proved to be completely unflyable. Pat |
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Enjoy - Hitler's Flying Saucers
Pat Flannery wrote in
: They actually did make a disc-shaped aircraft during the war - this thing: http://www.luft46.com/misc/sackas6.html It proved to be completely unflyable. Even the bad ideas are fascinating. --Damon |
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Enjoy - Hitler's Flying Saucers
Damon Hill wrote: Pat Flannery wrote in : They actually did make a disc-shaped aircraft during the war - this thing: http://www.luft46.com/misc/sackas6.html It proved to be completely unflyable. Even the bad ideas are fascinating. That's got an very interesting idea incorporated in it; just ahead of the vertical fin there's a door that allows airflow from the underbelly to come through the upper surface of the disc-wing and flow over the vertical fin when it's at high angles of attack. We actually got our disc-type aircraft idea to work quite well: http://www.unrealaircraft.com/wings/cv_flapjack.php http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplane...t/flapjack.htm Pat |
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Enjoy - Hitler's Flying Saucers
Pat Flannery wrote in
: We actually got our disc-type aircraft idea to work quite well: http://www.unrealaircraft.com/wings/cv_flapjack.php http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplane...t/flapjack.htm The V-173 viewed from overhead looks a bit like a sunfish, or mola mola. Too bad the advanced design never got a real chance to be tested, but on the ground it looks right awkward having to tilt way up for prop clearance. A fully jet-only version would probably been quite a bit different; the props were probably necessary for take-off lift with airflow over the wing/body. --Damon |
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Enjoy - Hitler's Flying Saucers
Damon Hill wrote: The V-173 viewed from overhead looks a bit like a sunfish, or mola mola. Too bad the advanced design never got a real chance to be tested, but on the ground it looks right awkward having to tilt way up for prop clearance. A fully jet-only version would probably been quite a bit different; the props were probably necessary for take-off lift with airflow over the wing/body. I assume that would be the case, although maybe you could stick thrust vectoring vanes in the jet exhaust. But I think a lot of its stability was due to the fact it was hanging under its propellors. The coolest flying saucers ever were the Avro "Silverbug": http://www.cufon.org/cufon/Silverbug.pdf http://www.laesieworks.com/ifo/lib/AVRO-Silverbug.html And the Couzinet one: http://www.laesieworks.com/ifo/lib/V....html#couzinet Pat |
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Enjoy - Hitler's Flying Saucers
Pat Flannery wrote:
Jim Davis wrote: This book is hilarious!! And it's all online at: http://missilegate.com/rfz/index.htm That is a fun read, I stumbled on it a few weeks back. They actually did make a disc-shaped aircraft during the war - this thing: http://www.luft46.com/misc/sackas6.html It proved to be completely unflyable. Wow, love that view from above/below. Just paint a goddamn bulls-eye on the thing. -- .. "Though I could not caution all, I yet may warn a few: Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools!" --grateful dead. __________________________________________________ _____________ Mike Flugennock, flugennock at sinkers dot org "Mikey'zine": dubya dubya dubya dot sinkers dot org |
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Enjoy - Hitler's Flying Saucers
Damon Hill wrote:
Pat Flannery wrote in : They actually did make a disc-shaped aircraft during the war - this thing: http://www.luft46.com/misc/sackas6.html It proved to be completely unflyable. Even the bad ideas are fascinating. You mean, bad, or bad and _weird_? http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvp111.html ....or, even better: http://www.luft46.com/mrart/mrvto.html -- .. "Though I could not caution all, I yet may warn a few: Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools!" --grateful dead. __________________________________________________ _____________ Mike Flugennock, flugennock at sinkers dot org "Mikey'zine": dubya dubya dubya dot sinkers dot org |
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Enjoy - Hitler's Flying Saucers
Pat Flannery wrote:
Damon Hill wrote: Pat Flannery wrote in : They actually did make a disc-shaped aircraft during the war - this thing: http://www.luft46.com/misc/sackas6.html It proved to be completely unflyable. Even the bad ideas are fascinating. That's got an very interesting idea incorporated in it; just ahead of the vertical fin there's a door that allows airflow from the underbelly to come through the upper surface of the disc-wing and flow over the vertical fin when it's at high angles of attack. We actually got our disc-type aircraft idea to work quite well: http://www.unrealaircraft.com/wings/cv_flapjack.php Jayzus. Do you remember around 1973 or so, when the theme of an issue of the National Lampoon was "Postwar", and they had a fold-out poster of some of the supposedly-unsung heroic fighters of WW2? It was a collection of some of the weirdest, most improbable, good-****ing-luck fighter designs (at least at the immediate post-WW2 era). A lot of the Blohm'n'Voss concepts at the Luft'46 site are like that. _This_ goddamn' thing looks like it could be on that National Lampoon poster, as could the experimental German VTOL saucer -- sort of a "secret saucer", or maybe a "saucerful of secrets", as it were -- at http://www.luft46.com/mrart/mrvto.html -- .. "Though I could not caution all, I yet may warn a few: Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools!" --grateful dead. __________________________________________________ _____________ Mike Flugennock, flugennock at sinkers dot org "Mikey'zine": dubya dubya dubya dot sinkers dot org |
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Enjoy - Hitler's Flying Saucers
mike flugennock wrote: That is a fun read, I stumbled on it a few weeks back. They actually did make a disc-shaped aircraft during the war - this thing: http://www.luft46.com/misc/sackas6.html It proved to be completely unflyable. Wow, love that view from above/below. Just paint a goddamn bulls-eye on the thing. I've got a model of it. It's nickname was "the flying beer platter". This concept was fairly odd also: http://www.luft46.com/fw/fwvtol.html You really want to get people's attention, stick one of these in among your model Komets and Natters: http://www.geocities.com/unicraftmod...rad1/frad1.htm http://www.geocities.com/unicraftmod...rad3/frad3.htm If somebody asks you if the Germans really designed those things, answer "I could tell you, but then I'd have to send you to our secret Antarctic base....JAH, MEIN FUHRER?!" :-D There's a tiny chance that they might be based on something real, but the general consensus is that they are pure BS. (Pat turns around and pats a penguin on its head... the penguin raises its right wing stiffly.) Pat |
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